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Namjoon- t1_iwyn6qe wrote

Insane!

I’ve never folded something quite that intricate before, what kind of paper did you need? I assume very thin yet durable

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H3ISEN OP t1_iwynklv wrote

I used Alios Kraft paper. It’s around 15 grams per square meter. It’s durable, holds creases well and I’ve used it for hundreds of models.

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AnalFluid1 t1_iwzet3n wrote

You must roll supreme joints.

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trickertron t1_iwzkk3y wrote

No, but he rolls a mean roach

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good_life_choices t1_ix1uu2q wrote

There is just no way that after 10 hours your upvotes are sitting at a perfect 420. There are forces at play here keeping this balance.

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didntgettheruns t1_ix0xwzi wrote

You should record and post a time-lapse if you do something like this again :)

I really want to see how something like this is even made.

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KeepItTidyZA t1_ix063pl wrote

are you sure your GSM is correct? I buy paper for a printing company and the thinnest we use is 48 gram and it's nearly transparent and tears very easily. I can't imagine a paper 5 times thinner.

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ontopofyourmom t1_ix0baqs wrote

Purpose-designed small-batch Japanese paper made for hand-folding, not machine-printing?

It's fundamentally different than anything your company buys.

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00PublicAcct t1_ix0wuao wrote

If they indeed used Alios Kraft, it's a French product and is machine-made. But I can't find Alios Kraft lighter than 30gsm

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00PublicAcct t1_ix0wo71 wrote

There are specialty origami papers (or more commonly, specialty japanese or other asian printmaking papers adopted by origami artists) that are much thinner and tougher than commercially available ones. I do not know where they found 15gsm Kraft since the most common manufacturer used by origami artists, Gascogne Alios Kraft, only makes papers down to 30~ gsm. The lightest paper I've found online was 5~ gsm kozo (a japanese tissue paper) and the lightest I own is 12~ gsm kozo, but I haven't folded it yet. Two well known Western specialty origami paper manufacturers are Paper Circle which makes O-gami, and Origamido. For both, their lightest commercial papers are around 20 gsm but I think they'd try to make lighter ones for custom orders. both papers are incredibly durable and feel almost miraculous to fold if you're used to just crappy 6 inch kami/ "origami paper".

Note that density (weight/area) does not perfectly correlate with thickness but it's usually used as shorthand.

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FitBoog t1_iwz4mjv wrote

How long does these models last until it starts to decompose (I guess)?

This is very nice

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Vusarix t1_iwzsq9u wrote

Alios kraft isn't an overly popular choice for complex origami. Many origamists treat their own paper with methyl cellulose glue, with the most popular option being double tissue, followed by wenzhou

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H3ISEN OP t1_ix02piq wrote

I have used Unryu treated methyl cellulose for origami and double tissue. Both are exceptional.

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Vusarix t1_ix03iwv wrote

I have some unryu sitting around but have never found an excuse to use it

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WirlVortex t1_iwymwis wrote

Wow, thanks for sharing that

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H3ISEN OP t1_iwymy80 wrote

And thank you for your praise.

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Afireonthesnow t1_iwzincl wrote

Always got confused how one square of paper could make that many legs without any cuts. Just doesn't seem possible!

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Vusarix t1_iwzter3 wrote

Check out Robert Lang's TED talk. He gives a brief overview of one of the underlying ideas behind making lots of flaps, called circle packing. This model looks boxpleated (based on a square grid) in which case circle packing isn't the design technique used, but the fundamental idea is the same

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GiloronQT t1_iwzyty0 wrote

I just watched this after I read your comment, really great recommendation!

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SalesAutopsy t1_iwz8q4r wrote

The Japanese space agency JAXA used the folding of one thousand cranes as one of the tests for candidates of its astronaut program.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_thousand_origami_cranes

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DeadSol t1_iwyyatp wrote

Wow! This must have required some serious crafting skills and patience. Very cool!

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TheoTheHellhound t1_iwz2hp2 wrote

To say I’m impressed would be an understatement! Your folding is masterful, op!

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reddit__scrub t1_ix0rim4 wrote

I thought it was real until OP said "folded by me" then it clicked that the Beatles genus/order was actually just an adjective.

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nxcrosis t1_iwzii4v wrote

Our school library had an origami book. The contents were very basic things like boxes, stars, swans, frogs, and some bugs. We would make frogs and flick them so see whose landed the furthest. This amazing piece brings back grade school memories.

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Dryneck123 t1_iwyoyna wrote

That's incredible, great job!

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ArtistocrArt t1_iwz1rih wrote

Looks dope! The texture of the paper adds to its ruggedness

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tapport t1_iwz2whk wrote

No chance you have a video of yourself folding it, right? How long did this take?

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H3ISEN OP t1_iwzb6ha wrote

I don’t have a video of myself folding it but there are origami time lapse videos of people folding complex out there. It took me 8-9 hours I think.

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tapport t1_iwzjh3p wrote

That’s amazing, thanks for the info. What are the dimensions of the final piece you have here?

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mossybeard t1_iwzm6fg wrote

Judging by the wood grain, about 2.5 inches wide, and 3-3.5 inches long

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00PublicAcct t1_ix0x7ea wrote

Should be about 5 inches long based on the given length ratio in Origami Masters Bugs , the book it was published in.

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Ishana92 t1_iwzbgpm wrote

So...are there free folding instructions for it?

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H3ISEN OP t1_iwzbnrt wrote

The diagrams are in the book “Origami Masters Bugs: How the Bug Wars Changed the Art of Origami”.

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mamaBiskothu t1_ix08rlc wrote

I’m assuming an origami novice wouldn’t just be able to do this ? What do you recommend to someone who can barely make a ship that floats

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jofromthething t1_ix0vema wrote

I believe OP said it took 8-9 hours to make and some speciality paper so it’s probably a huge undertaking in general, but there’s likely no harm in trying lol

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5ahn3t0rt3 t1_ix0uy6d wrote

Try origami cranes. There are a lot of instructions out there.

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Kirat- t1_iwzb8dx wrote

I grew up folding paper, sad it fell out of habit though. This is beautiful. Thank you!

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GarglenutsBumblebutt t1_iwzbaau wrote

Paper Mario Origami King has trained me that I need to smash this with a giant mallet to unfold a toad person.

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ChainIndividual5531 t1_iwzfeg4 wrote

if they put this in my room I would never sleep again for fear of that beak eating my ass at night....

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neuromorph t1_iwzmlya wrote

How do you get more than 4 legs if ots uncut?

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H3ISEN OP t1_iwznmxn wrote

So legs or any appendages come from points on the paper with a radius that give each of the limbs length. These points can be on the corners, edges and anywhere on the surface. This beetle is like a fifth of the size of the starting sheet so most of that paper goes to the legs.

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Arigomi t1_iwzyt48 wrote

In simple terms, appendages are made from flaps. Multiple flaps can be created if you repeat the pattern of creases used to make a flap.

To illustrate this concept, think of accordion folding a sheet of paper to make a paper fan. Each rectangular ridge of the fan is a flap. It is not a very useful shape for a flap, because it is too short and too wide. Fortunately, there are various techniques in origami to make flaps in other shapes.

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theveryrealreal t1_iwzbroq wrote

Yeah, I would do a little poo if I saw this in my cabinet. Frighteningly realistic.

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mred870 t1_iwzwx1g wrote

From the thumbnail, i thought it was two lizards fucking.

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8BitPleb t1_ix14iel wrote

Getting mad Kubo and the Two Strings vibe from this.

Anyone who has not seen this movie should endeavour to do so ASAP. Its just fucking beautifully made.

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[deleted] t1_iwyn8yi wrote

I would love to see a painted vers. of this, looks very nice.

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GetBuggered t1_iwzf7pj wrote

I would not be able to pull that off of my life depended on it. How crazy to conceptualize all those folds in your mind!

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Arigomi t1_iwzmxea wrote

There is a very vigorous and systematic process behind origami models of this level of complexity. Here is a video that explains the different levels of origami complexity.

https://youtu.be/MDwPXRy9IFc

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guruglue t1_iwzy073 wrote

Saw the pic, read the first three words of the title and thought, 'Cool bug, wonder why they call it that?'

That's some seriously good paper folding. Didn't know you can do that.

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biotechknowledgey t1_ix04esa wrote

Amazing skills you have there! Looks totally life-like!

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Tw1sttt t1_ix0zzlz wrote

I need a banana for scale

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owleealeckza t1_ix10ivr wrote

Very cool but also realistic somewhat. If I saw that, I'd run away lol.

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PokenRamer t1_ix15ucj wrote

oh i saw this in the origami - dan! Good job fellow origamist!

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PartialViewer t1_iwz6a3t wrote

Nice, I was 100% ready to believe that this was a real beetle.

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loops_____ t1_iwzdbcl wrote

Really want to get started doing origami. Do you have any suggestions on where or how to start?

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pinky1138 t1_iwzmszf wrote

Not OP but I’ve been doing origami for on and off 20 years now so feel qualified to answer….

I would say the best way to start is to get hold of some books - charity/thrift shops and libraries are your friends here. And of course YouTube is your friend for videos. Most books have a clear glossary of the folding techniques you’ll need to learn and the technical language used - refer back to these as often as you need to. You won’t learn everything in a day. I personally prefer using diagrams rather than videos to make models, that way I can make notes on the instructions as I fold it. Start with simple stuff - it’ll be tempting to try amazing or more complex looking stuff but walk before you can run, having the fundamentals of folding down pat will great aid your precision in the long run. Equipment wise you don’t really need anything - but I would recommend a bone folder. These are like £4 from Amazon or wherever, and they’re great to get precise creases with minimal effort. Paper wise, I’d use cheap stuff until you’re more confident, and you usually want the thinner the better. There are a plethora of different paper types to use, I buy from www.origami-shop.com And don’t forget to have fun, happy folding!

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loops_____ t1_iwzq0yw wrote

Is there a book you’d recommend for beginners? Something that shows the fundamentals while making some increasingly cool stuff at the same time. I remember seeing a One A Day origami book years back, but I forget what it was…

As far as paper, should I buy those pre-cut square papers or a big roll and cut it out myself? The big roll is a lot cheaper.

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Arigomi t1_ix01atk wrote

As a beginner, practice with whatever paper you have lying around. Basically any paper you would throw into the recycling bin. Learning the fundamentals requires being comfortable with making mistakes along the way. You aren't going to appreciate the advantages of origami paper until you know what you are doing.

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JurassiCarnivor t1_ix01xpl wrote

I’ve played too much Mass Effect. It looks great! But my first thought was: REAPER!!!

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SciFiChickie t1_ix0eue3 wrote

Me to myself: That looks like it’s made of paper what’s the post say? Oh it IS made of paper!

It’s looks so real. Thanks for sharing. 😎

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redstaplerguy t1_ix0fc3b wrote

Ngl OP, without reading your caption this would’ve scared the bejeesus out of me. So lifelike!!!

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FishstickJones t1_ix0i7i9 wrote

I only know how to make a balloon, but this makes me want to try other stuff

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newbies13 t1_ix0shry wrote

They see me packing

My circles.

They trying to catch me packing, they trying to catch me packing.

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dougwray t1_ix0sjqf wrote

This is more or less irrelevant, but I live in Japan and have run into Shuki Kato (at an origami school/shop/museum) a couple of times. Also, the real bugs this represents killed our fig tree last year.

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Nived6669 t1_ix18bej wrote

Thought I was on r/Artofrolling for a second.

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ultimate_obtainable t1_ix2g6pt wrote

That looks amazing! the details, the folds and the crumple oh myyy. I only know how to make a boat origami, the simple one lol!

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lite4caleb t1_ix2wpsa wrote

i thought it was a fucking lizard

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BurningOrangeHeaven t1_iwzcpvx wrote

If you threw this on me I would panic like crazy thinking its a giant bug haha

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Tharron t1_iwze6jl wrote

This person is making folds in a fold being another fold!

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o7leddit t1_iwzeleh wrote

Looks so real I would try to swat it.

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Farmeatsleap t1_iwzlyb7 wrote

My mind is blown, this is insane

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nullagravida t1_iwzm2d5 wrote

ok so I have a question about origami— is it paper sculpture, where you push and pull until the desired results take shape? or is it a mathematical thing where you plan out the folds and then go step by step to what was designed?

if it’s the first one I can get behind it, mentally. but if it’s the second one NGL it sounds like the worst kind of tedium

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H3ISEN OP t1_iwzmn8d wrote

So this kind of origami is known as box pleated which means that the starting square is made into a grid through folding and unfolding, then the crease pattern (which is basically a map of all the folds) is creases onto the paper using the grid points as references. The folding requires no math as I got the diagrams from a book. Designing requires some math but it can be done without math.

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nullagravida t1_iwzn1sw wrote

is there a video or something showing the technique? this is great thanks for starting to explain it. nobody ever seems to do that for us outsiders.

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Vusarix t1_iwzuogp wrote

The Plant Psychologist has a video series on origami design, with much of the course covering boxpleating (bp) design

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blackcatt42 t1_iwzn2hp wrote

I struggle to make an airplane

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thatG_evanP t1_iwzuta7 wrote

I literally thought it was a real insect!

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Colourblindknight t1_ix02zdc wrote

I have to know, if you didn’t cut the paper, how did you manage to get the legs and antennae so separate? Amazing work, OP!

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kitnb t1_ix05o1m wrote

I legit was reaching for my shoe to smash it. Then realized it was paper! 😂😂

Great job on the realism. 👏

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hampelmann2022 t1_ix05zhj wrote

How long did it take you to learn the skills and how long did you fold it ?

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H3ISEN OP t1_ix06st9 wrote

Took me about 8-9 hours to fold. Took around ten years and thousands of hours to learn and practice the skills required by folding other origami models.

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nCubed21 t1_ix068ef wrote

Alright cool beetle but where’s the origami?

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DippyDave66 t1_ix073ou wrote

That is a little too realistic

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ashleighbuck t1_ix0cdvj wrote

This is great!! Looks very complicated, and is done very well 🥰

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Skreamies t1_ix0dqhw wrote

Just to confirm this is still done with one piece of paper right? This is mental.

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martinaylett t1_ix0lmb6 wrote

That is a masterpiece! I’m absolutely impressed with the skill you’ve demonstrated. It is truly a work of art.

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rsatrioadi t1_ix0usig wrote

From a 7cm × 7cm paper? That’s insane! Kudos!

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H3ISEN OP t1_ix0yrr8 wrote

It’s 50cm by 50cm not 7cm.

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rsatrioadi t1_ix2jvli wrote

Well that is 2500cm² then, not 50cm². Still fucking impressive!

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Kitakitakita t1_ix0v7zv wrote

I eont understand how you can get 8 thin protrusions from a square piece of paper without cutting it

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PoeJascoe t1_ix1ipu4 wrote

I thought this was real and was about to die

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Tohill_ART t1_ix1jrc1 wrote

I can hear it skittering around in my lunch sack.

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cheesy772 t1_ix1sh1h wrote

i thought it was real for a sec ;-; that is cool tho!

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ArbutusPhD t1_ix2cms2 wrote

Me: that is huge

Thirteen year old me: yeah, it’s UNCUT

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Tuffaddrat t1_ix2f53h wrote

Super cool seeing origami on here, and for the post to be so popular. It's not somthing that is at the forefront of my mind when I think art, and that means I need to admire more origami.

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cy13erpunk t1_ix2fleu wrote

origami is truly amazing

topology and art

math is wonderful

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AvengeWorthy42 t1_ix2ldvn wrote

And I still can’t make a paper airplane. Awesome work, the both of you!

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-neti-neti- t1_iwzm3wp wrote

I ask this question anytime I have an opportunity and have never gotten an answer.

In my opinion, it seems a bit “loose” to call paper that is aggressively curved and twisted “origami”. To me it seems as if it should be purely clean folds. Am I completely wrong? What is the consensus in the community?

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Vusarix t1_iwzu9yn wrote

The only real restrictions on origami are no cutting, and models requiring multiple sheets are expected to have locking mechanisms which make it possible to keep them together without glue (though glue is not forbidden and is encouraged to be used in shaping). Paper doesn't even need to be square, it's just desirable. Curves and twists are completely acceptable, and curved origami is its own niche little area rarely explored due to the difficulty of making a clean curved fold. Jun Mitani is a master of this style.

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-neti-neti- t1_iwzvzw4 wrote

Thank you for an answer. So I guess it’s just a matter of taste.

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Arigomi t1_iwzvb59 wrote

It is still origami because there is no such thing as purely clean folds. You opinion is based upon a semantic definition rather than a functional one. Paper might look 2 dimensional from a distance, but it is a 3 dimensional material.

Even the simplest origami models create layers of paper where nothing is truly flat. Paper itself has a tendency to flex and buckle at the creases. Many folders learn to adapt to the variance introduced by paper thickness.

What you have labeled as aggressive twists in complex models are not achieved by such a blunt method. They are flaps where numerous folds have converged. Like the accordion folds in a paper fan, there are many layers that add bulk to the appendage. You cannot haphazardly twist this to produce the final rounded shape. The creases concentrated in the area make it more prone to tearing.

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-neti-neti- t1_iwzw7ck wrote

Understood. For example in this piece, the antennae look to me like they’re just “forced” into that bent/curved shape, rather than it being the result of engineered folds - am I wrong?

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NamesAreStillHard t1_iwzx3mu wrote

Zooming in shows some of the work that went on underneath, it's pretty damn impressive.

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