Submitted by WeirdSponge16 t3_yirwxh in AskReddit
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Thee_Mad_Catter t1_iuk5ryb wrote
Hold that person down and let the child kick back
Gilbo_Swaggins96 t1_iuk5sru wrote
An incredibly disgusting and inhumane thing to do
WeirdSponge16 OP t1_iuk5sui wrote
What if they are religious? This is a very controversial subject and thought it might be interesting.
LoveWithUke t1_iuk5t5o wrote
Its one of the worst things a parent/guardian can do
WeirdSponge16 OP t1_iuk5w8h wrote
Some people are religious, though.
riceburner22 t1_iuk5x8m wrote
I would think you’re a piece of shit parent for not supporting your child no matter what it was. That’s just my opinion.
OhSweatProvidence t1_iuk612o wrote
Religion isnt an excuse to abuse their child
Passn_wind t1_iuk628g wrote
If you kick your child out.... you are a bad parent.
If you do it because they find love in a way you disagree with.... you don't deserve to the air you are breathing.
WeirdSponge16 OP t1_iuk63m4 wrote
Well I was more in the bracket of over 18.
WeirdSponge16 OP t1_iuk651h wrote
If there over 18, its legal though.
s-n-i-p-e-r-w-o-l-f t1_iuk66cn wrote
In my opinion choosing between religion and a kid is a pretty clear choice
Own_Acanthocephala0 t1_iuk66f3 wrote
If their religion is more important than their care and love for their own child then they have a big problem and should never ever have been parents in the first place.
StonksStink t1_iuk67di wrote
My opinion of you just plummeted
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Draklor t1_iuk6d2q wrote
I see. In the UK 18 is an adult so I guess that’s where the confusion is.
Just plain abusive then.
On the positive side I first left home at 17 and it didn’t hurt me that much.
OhSweatProvidence t1_iuk6gis wrote
Still not okay to do, what if they are still studying, or havent found a job stable enough to move out. If someone is in that situation they would want to move out ayways as soon as possible
otter_dragon t1_iuk6gx5 wrote
I'm religious (Christian) and still know it's a wrong and evil thing to do.
Ambitious_Double3078 t1_iuk6h9i wrote
You are a disgusting parent if you kick them out for that, or for anything else for that matter. You love your kids no matter what, that’s your job as a parent.
official_bagel t1_iuk6hav wrote
>What if they are religious?
Then the parents are shit practitioners of whatever religion they follow. Imagine calling yourself a Christian and kicking out your child because of their sexual preferences. Definitely missed the whole "love your neighbor" lesson.
No_Opposite_1383 t1_iuk6hcy wrote
i dont even know why you would feel the need to post a question like this. it's fucked up, end of.
tastyanonymoussauce5 t1_iuk6i7x wrote
even if it's legal, it doesn't stop them from being a piece of shit
Tombancroft t1_iuk6k8g wrote
Being legal doesn't make it right. It's still a horrible, dare I day it, unchristian thing to do. Shame on any parent who does that to their own child/children.
WeirdSponge16 OP t1_iuk6kkd wrote
I just thought maybe some people would think its justifiable and we could have a respectful debate. I’m sorry.
carlbucks69 t1_iuk6l57 wrote
You don’t have to be in a relationship to be attracted to someone.
Millenniauld t1_iuk6m72 wrote
Legal doesn't mean right. Legal doesn't mean moral. Slavery was legal.
If you choose to follow some storybook sky God who literally "doesn't do anything for people because he needs them to believe without proof" against the child you brought into this world, a child that the God in question apparently made with a plan KNOWING how they would feel regarding attraction to others.... Then you don't deserve your child. You're a monster.
CrispyLemonMan t1_iuk6n07 wrote
Dick move, but if you're that bad of a person, the kid's better off without you
KotexAvenger t1_iuk6o1o wrote
As a parent, I think its deplorable. And religion is the thinnest veil one can use to cover being an absolute garbage human being.
WeirdSponge16 OP t1_iuk6og1 wrote
standitlikeaman t1_iuk6oqd wrote
It means you’re fucked in the head and the child will be better off in the long run
Klawtwo t1_iuk6pjz wrote
Parents who kick out their child for being LGBT+ (even if the family is religious, which already doesn't excuse them since their own sacred texts often state to love no matter what,) are just mad because of selfish reasons. "My kid isn't who I wanted them to be! They were suppose to be me but better! And now they're rejecting the image I'm forcing onto them, so I must kick them out."
Don't have kids if you're worried about that kid having their own life. Maybe try a pet like a dog, which is blindly loyal.
The_Funkhouse t1_iuk6q34 wrote
If you’re going to be a cunt to your child, don’t have children in the first place.
PNWBoilermaker2019 t1_iuk6qbu wrote
I’d say the kid would be better off not living under a toxic roof like that, but homelessness is no joke. Massive dick move and makes you a horrible human being.
StarStrike-_- t1_iuk6ql8 wrote
Kinda bogus but kinda understandable. Didn't raise u to be gay.
WeirdSponge16 OP t1_iuk6u2c wrote
Hm, controversial opinion. Some would say being gay is not raised, it just happens.
andtheywontstopcomin t1_iuk6v8h wrote
It’s bad I think
phat666jesus t1_iuk6w6w wrote
Personally I'm not gonna kick my kid out for being LGBTQ. But if their vegan they gotta go this is a meat eating house.
Redditgreninja t1_iuk6wh4 wrote
I’m pretty sure it’s dickish to kick out your child for that specific reason
whydamnmanfemboybest t1_iuk6xgr wrote
There is no debate, there is no need for one, to me it seems you are searching for acceptance for doing this exact thing.
Akul_Tesla t1_iuk6xj1 wrote
There is exactly one circumstance where without any additional action on the part of the child it is permissible
If you know another member of the family will attempt to honor kill them aka to protect them and in that case you will need to still support them but if it's to get them safe from a monstrous member of the family that is the only acceptable circumstance furthermore this should be a temporary thing while you get a safe way to be with a an away from the monster or some family member
You guys might think this is ridiculous thing but you got to remember there are multiple countries where they will be executed so if it's to protect them in those places then you need to do what you need to do
jimmycreddit t1_iuk6zo3 wrote
The most probable reason people even think this way is because of religion. FUCK religion.
duane534 t1_iuk70nv wrote
If anything, that shows what a blight on humanity religion is.
Swimming_Childhood71 t1_iuk72rp wrote
I missed the part where my child is my neighbor🤦🏼♂️
StarStrike-_- t1_iuk73mv wrote
(Please don't attack me)
Dry-Sea-1218 t1_iuk74qb wrote
Because you kicked out because they LGBTQ+? If you had kicked someone ozt because of their behaviour, we could argue, but not because they are who they are
_PocketChange_ t1_iuk77zi wrote
What are you looking for with this kind of question?
official_bagel t1_iuk78fn wrote
And this level of understanding is why Christianity is fucked
Old_Expert_23 t1_iuk7ge2 wrote
A God who hates you for how he made you isn’t worth worshipping.
Akul_Tesla t1_iuk7mqr wrote
Hold up on that second part
There is a situation where if your child finds love you should kick them out and that is if they're stealing the spouse of another one of your children
There was a case on either r/aita or r/relationship where the brother's boyfriend and the brother tricked the sister into thinking he was her boyfriend so that she could be the beard for 7 years in order to manipulate boyfriends parents for money in that case the parents should have turned against brother as he fundamentally ruined his sister's life
Keep in mind that's the type of scenario that could potentially lead to the suicide of the good child so no there's an exception to that rule
WeirdSponge16 OP t1_iuk7qrw wrote
Swimming_Childhood71 t1_iuk7r54 wrote
I’m kidding I don’t have a child and I understand the passage 🤣. Just keeping the conversations interesting… or trolling depending on how u look at it
caribe5 t1_iuk7tkh wrote
“Being” LGBT isn’t something you are as in you are “jew” a “cristian” an “atheist” or a “negro”, it isn’t a believe nor a rebelion, nor an ethnic group, acting like it’s a group of people different from anybody else or “just a fase” is missleading, the only reason they have become a group of people is to fight for the understanding of what it means to have been born the same but treated differently.
WeirdSponge16 OP t1_iuk8274 wrote
I’d rather we didn’t argue.
WeirdSponge16 OP t1_iuk87ln wrote
Well, it wasn’t my fault, its what I was taught.
Fearless_Fan8743 t1_iuk88qf wrote
From what I’ve read, discrimination is sinful, but child abandonment takes that up to 11
WeirdSponge16 OP t1_iuk88t0 wrote
People make mistakes.
official_bagel t1_iuk89g4 wrote
I was really hoping you were but also Christians who use a lack of understanding of their own religion’s teachings to justify horrible actions are a dime a dozen
WeirdSponge16 OP t1_iuk8f91 wrote
Well, what if its what they were taught and what they thought would be best for the child…
MeinHuTopG t1_iuk8fis wrote
I'm commenting from a place where I'm imagining I'm the child, I will 100% be ousted, no questions asked, it's not even about religion, it's about the mindset more or less. And the logic lies somewhere in the lines of "if you're old enough to do/say 'this' , then you're old enough to fend for yourself anyway" The part of the community I come from, if i was indeed a part of LGBT and had the requirement/need to come out, I would rather be a voluntary asexual for life than risk being alienated by the people who spent at the very least 18 years raising me. For me, their word/opinion > my opinion. I'm not part of the 'west' so people from more conservative societies in the non western world might understand where this is coming from.
My opinion on kicking out a child is sad, but it's not like I've not seen cases of it happening. Kicking out and alienating the child is actually the nicer punishments lol.
WeirdSponge16 OP t1_iuk8wnk wrote
People make accidents, I’ve made a few.
WeirdSponge16 OP t1_iuk8z55 wrote
It goes against my beliefs though.
LoveWithUke t1_iuk98rb wrote
Then they are lying to themselves, who would think kicking their child out on the street would be best for them?
No_Opposite_1383 t1_iuk99o8 wrote
have you ever questioned that your beliefs may not be morally right? have you ever questioned its system?
MathematicianOld1117 t1_iuk9s56 wrote
A vile, hurtful, deplorable decision.
Take responsibility for the spawn you churned out, birthers! Don't leave it up to everyone else to accept, nurture, and sustain what you've rejected for reasons ranging from feeling awkward to declaring your own flesh and blood is an abomination before your fruitcake god.
PheonixKernow t1_iuk9vl0 wrote
No matter what it was?
Do you mean no matter who they are?
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crankenfranken t1_iukazza wrote
tl;dr It is wrong to do that.
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Kicking out a child purely for being (or thinking they might be) LGBT is a fundamental violation of the role of a parent, which is to care for, feed, clothe, and house your child until such time as they are capable of doing so for themselves. You made the child, so you bear the responsibility of preparing it for life as an adult, no matter whether its sexual orientation is one you despise or if they don't happen to like your favourite sport.
I'd also suggest that such a parent would likely be in violation of the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child.
StevesMcQueenIsHere t1_iukbcuu wrote
Where do you get your beliefs from? Is it written in a book somewhere: Love your children, my followers... unless they're gay. Then kick them out and disown them because fuck that.
StevesMcQueenIsHere t1_iukbfsk wrote
That isn't best for anyone's child. That's what a parent says to themselves to avoid the realization they're a piece of shit.
ImANuckleChut t1_iukbgg4 wrote
If your love as a parent comes with a stipulation, you never were a parent to begin with.
StevesMcQueenIsHere t1_iukbtsk wrote
What a way to permanently avoid responsibility for any of your shitty choices: It wasn't my fault! Jesus/Allah/Jehovah made me do it!
DatBoi_Steve t1_iukc0ao wrote
So from reading all the comments and taking a look at your profile I guess you already did kick your child out and it's because you grew up very religious and thought it was the right thing to do?
I think you already got the hang of the direction the opinions are going here. But what I'm now interested in is, after getting all this feedback, will you actually consider trying to take your child back? (given it actually wants to come back)
Do you see yourself really accepting your child for who he/she is, even if it means reconsidering the way you are interpreting your religion?
At last I wanna say that, given you seem to be in this very religious bubble, it's a good thing you are stepping out of it and get some other opinions on this.
s-n-i-p-e-r-w-o-l-f t1_iuk5qb8 wrote
Pretty dumb