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Roguewolfe t1_jbfwevx wrote

Reply to comment by barbarapalvinswhore in WIRED computer mouse. I'm particularly interested in one with a cable that will not fray. They seem to fray very shortly after I get them. I want the cable to be like a quarter of an inch thick. I don't care if the thing weighs 5 lbs. My budget is $200. by TheJawsofIce

Because the input latency and CPU load is exponentially lower with a wired mouse. That matters to most people, and to some people matters a lot. I am one of those people. You can make the argument that the load is low, and that's absolutely true, but it's still a load, and there's still additional lag, however little.

Wireless DACs on both sides (transmitter + receiver) introduces an additional processing step to allow the radio signal transmission and decoding. Wired bypasses all of that and requires no digital to analog conversion and back again - it just stays digital the whole time.

There are many situations in which a wireless mouse is better - particularly with laptops, air travel, etc. A gaming rig is not one of those situations, and that's why I prefer wired for that. I use a wireless mouse for work stuff. Other people don't care and use a wireless mouse for everything, and that's ok too.

Edit: lol "tHeRe's LeSs LaG nOW" ok neat, I agree, but there's still lag, everything I said is still true, use whatever mouse you want. Putting a battery in things that don't need it is beyond stupid, though.

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PLEASE_STOP_it_hurts t1_jbfzjot wrote

Meh. This is advice from a decade ago. Wireless mice have come a long way. Latency is generally considered a non issue for any half competent gaming mice and the performance hit is hardly a massive load compared to the power of modern systems. If you're spending the money on a decent mouse, you've probably already got a computer powerful enough that it's a non issue.

Of course, if you're on a tight budget, wired all the way. It's cheaper and cheap wireless mice are gonna be much worse than cheap wired mice.

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insanok t1_jbg3ehp wrote

I have a workstation and a logitech wireless mouse often stutters across the screen to the point of unusability. Wired mouse plugged in, zero problems.

I'm not sure if it's due to the specific receiver or a motherboard/ builtin usb hub incompatibility problem - but it's the only computer I have problems with. It happens when booted in Windows and Linux.

A very powerful computer struggling with the bare minimum

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buffysbangs t1_jbgax92 wrote

Are you using Bluetooth or the receiver dongle with 2.4Ghz? I find that Bluetooth tends to get flakey but the 2.4Ghz connection works much better

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websterhamster t1_jbg4hey wrote

That problem is unique to your mouse/workstation. I use wireless mice on my laptop all the time and never have issues like that.

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insanok t1_jbg5z3a wrote

100% and the same mouse works just fine connected to any other computer too, but of all my machines it has a problem with the powerful one.

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Hfftygdertg2 t1_jbgg4oh wrote

How far is the receiver from the mouse? I plug the receiver into my monitor using the included short 3-inch USB cable. Having it behind the monitor or plugged into the desktop seems to reduce the signal strength too much. Your problem sounds like a wireless signal strength or interference issue. Maybe a USB issue, but that's much less likely. Almost zero chance it's a computing power issue. The computer doesn't even need to know the difference between a wired and wireless mouse (unless you install the manufacturer's software). That's why a wireless mouse still works in BIOS.

My computer does also have USB issues. If I plug a USB 3.0 device into one of the front panel ports, USB 2.0 devices on the other front panel ports become unusable. Something to do with the internal cable to the front panel being improperly shielded. As a workaround, I just plug USB 3.0 devices directly into one of the ports on the back.

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insanok t1_jbgiez8 wrote

I already mentioned I think it's a largly an incompatibility between the motherboards inbuilt usb hub and the receiver itself; its possible the one dongle is malfunctioning - dmesg hasnt shown any faults. It really hasn't bothered me too much to spend the time debugging.

Logitech unifying receiver. There's another box connected just the same, right next to it with zero issue.

As a work around, I just use a second mouse and don't flip it over to change channels every time I swap pc.

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Roguewolfe t1_jbg0c1t wrote

shrug

Agree to disagree, I guess. Any amount of unnecessary load/lag is getting deleted off of my gaming rig.

Edit: Guessing the downvotes are all from people using wireless mice whom are getting farmed constantly

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Phrexeus t1_jbgcewe wrote

But having a cable attached is also a source of lag/load, a physical one and actually noticeable at that.

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Chakramer t1_jbgd1yd wrote

This is not true these days

Wireless mice have such low latency these days that eSports pros will use them in competitions where million$ are on the line.

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barbarapalvinswhore t1_jbgeo44 wrote

Almost every professional gaming competitor these days uses a wireless mouse, and I can’t imagine they would be using them if wired mice actually gave a competitive edge.

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