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Chiguy1216 t1_irxs8ep wrote

I'd say for that specific sort of group you should throw Mountain Hardware in there too

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FlyPenFly t1_iry6obe wrote

MH is okay but third tier on the level of Marmot, TNF, Mammut, OR, and that sort.

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ol_jerry t1_irybe1n wrote

I put OR above these for sure, but below Patagonia/arcteryx. Comparing them to marmot is not fair. Can’t speak for mammut though.

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des09 t1_irysokj wrote

I'd put MAMMUT to the top, in my own opinion, I own 4 or 5 items and every one has exceeded expectations. OR is close, just a bit less consistent. Arc'teryx used to be amazing, but I stopped buying it because I feel the value just isn't there, too expensive.

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FlyPenFly t1_irzcjpb wrote

Mammut has that super slim euro cut. Great if you’re that slim build. Bad if you like weights or a lot of desserts.

I burst through a pair of pants on the thighs when I had to carry a bunch of snowboards up a hill and my thighs swolled.

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des09 t1_irzcps0 wrote

Very true, especially in their shirts.

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Sukaphuk t1_is2b2qu wrote

I'd put all of them under swedish brand Klättermusen. Really impressed by their quality.

https://www.klattermusen.com/en/

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des09 t1_is34ci1 wrote

Thanks for the recommendation, but their USA prices are pretty astronomical. Its probably a combination of tariffs, hiding the shipping costs, and no interest in us as a market. Its too bad, because its really good looking stuff.

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curiosity_abounds t1_iry9dm2 wrote

Way below Aeteryx in quality. And a step below Patagonia in quality

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Chiguy1216 t1_irz94mb wrote

I'd argue their quality has notably improved in the last 6 or so years

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curiosity_abounds t1_irzl0t0 wrote

Glad you’ve had success. I’ve spent a lot of money on Mountain Hardware over the past two years because I’ve got a warehouse near me and I have to say I have become very disappointed. I decided I’d rather just spend the money and add to my small but ever growing Arc’Teryx collection. I’ve never tossed out anything from them. They are way more expensive though

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NoAngel2022 t1_is0ozqf wrote

I've stopped buying Mountain Hardware. Had two ill-fitting shirts that wore out quickly, while fading. And a pair of pants - ditto. Don't know how MH got into good outfitter stores.

Patagonia all the way. They have a used website as well and you can trade stuff in.

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curiosity_abounds t1_is1355t wrote

Mountain Hardware is a branch of the same company as Columbia and Prana. They’re all about the same quality and they all made a turn towards being trendy a few years back. I only buy them when they’re on severe discount, and still consider if I should just save up and get something more durable. They’re like the trendy fast fashion I can throw in with my 10 year old durable gear to be more up to date in colors and cuts

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