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megamaid12 t1_isdon2r wrote

Reply to comment by ShittyLanding in Dishwasher keeps going by Atlantic76

Also, these old dishwashers were around when phosphates were still used in detergent. Was much more effective so the dishwashers didn’t have to be as good. Just had to sort of splash the water around. New ones have to do a lot of the work.

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grammargrl t1_ise1xbn wrote

I miss phosphates in dishwashing liquid.

Oops - I should have explained better - wasn't thinking about the downvotes.

So, I miss them like I miss an addict ex, you know? There were good things - like, they cleaned so damn well, no matter how janky your dishwasher was. But the big picture is that I don't want them back because the problems far outweigh the few good things.

At the time they switched, I had an old portable dishwasher and I immediately noticed the difference in the effectiveness. My current dishwasher is old and I hate when people insist you don't have to rinse dishes before putting them in the dishwasher - trust me, if you have a janky machine like this one, yes, you must rinse your dishes. I'm pretty sure that if I were able to use phosphates in my current dishwasher, I would not have to rpre-inse. That's how well they worked.

But, again. The drawbacks and dangers far outweigh the conveniences.

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HoundsOfChaos t1_isfuq8r wrote

>There were good things - like, they cleaned so damn well, no matter how janky your dishwasher was.

Thanks for clarifying :).

Yeah I'm old enough to remember a world were we could do a lot of unsafe things without all the safety notices etc. Sure, folks would occasionally get burned, bruised, crushed, etc, but there was a naive feeling of freedom we've lost a little since.

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A_number-1234 t1_isg00i4 wrote

Were phosphates a health hazard? I don't remember, I was young when they were banned where I live, but the main reason for the ban here was eutrophication.

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