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topcat5 t1_iu3p75e wrote

I don't think anything Dyson is BIFL. Likewise with cordless. Expect 5-7 years with current technology, you might get lucky with longer, but that is generally the design.

BIFL would be corded and something like a Miele.

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Cli4ordtheBRD t1_iu4yf1s wrote

Fuck Dyson. Not because of the product, but because James Dyson is a piece of shit:

>Sir James Dyson, the British billionaire inventor and outspoken Brexiter who called on the government to walk away from the EU without a deal, is moving the headquarters of his vacuum cleaner and hair dryer technology company to Singapore.

Motherfucker did all he could to get the UK to successfully shoot itself in the foot and then dipped out. Fuck that guy.

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thatgirlinny t1_iu5f4gv wrote

He had a LOT of help via the Tories.

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Cli4ordtheBRD t1_iu5zf4w wrote

Let's not forget fuckface Nigel Farage of the UK Independence Party (UKIP), whose push for Brexit gave the Tories the choice between doing what was in the country's best interest and doing what's in their short-term political interests...and the Tories always choose the second one.

Farage would leave politics to work as an anchor for the British Fox News. The UK would go on to execute Brexit, weakening the European Union (to Russia's benefit), reducing their own bargaining power, fucking up their trade infrastructure, weakening their currency, and exacerbating inflationary pressures.

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thatgirlinny t1_iu6idzn wrote

Exactly—that miserable fuck. And I look at dumbass Boris, waiving from the podium again, thinking, “How’s he still a Party leader??”

And they used messaging that said, bafflingly, the NHS would be “better funded” somehow—as well as universities. Exactly the opposite happened, and all the EU-funded departments and chairs at universities across the country found themselves drowning, leading to a huge brain drain as they ran for the exits. I still know people whose careers in higher education haven’t righted themselves.

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_Kapok_ t1_iu498qs wrote

I agree. I have a cordless Dyson and I like it a lot. But we had to buy a new battery after 3 years because it would lose its charge after 10 minutes of use.

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originalusername__1 t1_iu4bvrw wrote

This is honestly to be expected with battery operated tools. There’s no buy it for life batteries, it’s a consumable.

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rockyrikoko t1_iu4uy30 wrote

Along those lines, could the vacuum itself be buy it for life with the occasional replacement of consumable wear components like batteries, filters, bristles, etc...

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Kromo30 t1_iu596xd wrote

No. They don’t manufacture the consumables forever. You’ll get 10-15 years of manufacturer support. Maybe a bit more with Dyson…(?).. but it’s not life.

Even if it is “only” 15 years, it’d still say that’s pretty solid, but not BIFL.

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rockyrikoko t1_iu5cviy wrote

Good point! This could be a sub criteria of buy it for life for companies that do offer replacement parts for decades

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Kromo30 t1_iu6foal wrote

No batteries, but I always like mentioning these guys when this conversation come up because to me, they are the definition of BIFL. https://www.pkgrills.com.

Patented design back in the 50s. Have not changed their moulds since. 70 years later you can still call them up and order parts and they are garenteed to match.

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alexmin93 t1_iu7dmum wrote

If you really want it to be BIFL you can replace cells yourself. Dyson battery is just a bunch of 18650 or 21700 cells connected to a bms board, replace them with new ones and glue ot back

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The_Chief t1_iu5ve9g wrote

I don't know Dyson is pretty good. I just replaced a head and brush on a 10 year old plus Dyson that I bought refurbished. It cost money for the parts but works like new.

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Radioactive-Salmon t1_iu622wo wrote

FWIW, I just bought a third-party battery for a six-year-old Dyson. Larger capacity than OEM, no issues so far (3 months).

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Kromo30 t1_iu6eyyz wrote

Ya, because plenty of people still use your model Dyson. 6 years still not end of life.

That’s the point. How many third parties are going to be making that battery 6 years from now when the vac is EOL and everyone but you has upgraded. They aren’t going to make batteries just for you.

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SaoDavi t1_iu52tvl wrote

I have 2 of them and I feel like I'm replacing the batteries every 18 months. Seem much less reliable than my power tools which also use rechargeable Li batteries.

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SignificantSmotherer t1_iu61het wrote

A vacuum is going to (ahem) suck a lot more power than any power tool, because physics.

That doesn’t stop our ignorant local environmental crybabies from insisting electric garden vacuums exist and function effectively.

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Large_Improvement668 t1_iu7pbsf wrote

Why be a dick? For what reason? It’s so offputting

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SignificantSmotherer t1_iu7zbqn wrote

Indeed, I ask that of them.

They don’t do real yard cleanup, yet are all too happy to impose their narrow and ignorant views on those who do.

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surelythisisfree t1_iu3pv30 wrote

Gotta agree here. Dyson is good enough and better than most but not bifl. I had to send away my corded upright after a year for repair because an internal bolt dropped out of it. This replaced a 7 year old barrel dyson that the end kept falling off and we couldn’t get a replacement for as it was too old.

They’re just good enough in all regards.

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notreally_real_ t1_iu55onx wrote

Yeah Miele definitely falls into the "too much space and effort" category. Our garage is a (very full) woodworking shop, we have no basement and we have one 24" linen closet that stores bulk tp, towels and sheets and cleaning stuff. I literally wouldn't have a place to put it at the moment. The Dyson can be stuck to a wall and put back in 0.5 seconds.

I wish there was an active subreddit for "consumer goods that are decent but not technically bifl"

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bamsimel t1_iu5knwn wrote

/r/QualityofLifeItems

Not sure how well used that sub is, but it's basically what you're after.

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notreally_real_ t1_iu5w6g3 wrote

It has under 1/1000th the subs that this subreddit has, maybe if the mods put it as a stickied redirect it'd actually get some use

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brisk0 t1_iu67801 wrote

/r/goodvalue has a few more subs

TBH I think "the most BIFLish of X non-BIFL category" should be part of what /r/buyitforlife is about

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msomnipotent t1_iu5jq0l wrote

I've had 5 different Dyson vacs over the years. The longest one has stayed intact (not counting attachments) was about 5 years. The attachments only last a few months to a year. The V6 battery lasted less than a year and the attachment lasted 8 months. And Dyson wants so much money for a little bit of plastic when you have to buy replacement parts. I can't see myself ever buying another one.

I have a Riccar Supralite and a Shark Duo corded stick right now. I think this is the best cleaning I'm going to get unless someone invents something radical. I think the Riccar is lighter than a lot of corded models and cleans exceptionally well.

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Ratsmiths t1_iu5ubeh wrote

What did you DO to those vacuums? I’m going on 7 years with my cordless and nothing has broken.

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Blog_Pope t1_iu5x981 wrote

V8 & V10 here, both running fine, I think the v8 is circa 2017, so 5 years on the batter. We have a dog so it get used a fair bit.

The V10 is kinda annoying because when we empty it it tends to slide too far and needs to be put back together, but thats how it comes apart for deep cleaning, so its a minor thing.

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msomnipotent t1_iu6cu6s wrote

Just vacuuming! I vacuum every other day or every 3 days because I have cats and a dog and my husband and daughter won't take their shoes off. My Riccar is probably 10 years old so it isn't like I throw them down the stairs or anything.

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Ratsmiths t1_iu9kv8b wrote

Sorry for your bad luck. I have had rats, cats, and dogs and vacuumed daily with my piece of crap (by todays standards) Dyson cordless. She is still the same as day one. Glad you found something that works for you!

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kzt79 t1_iu5yko1 wrote

Never heard of anything like that, are you doing some kind of heavy duty commercial work? I have a couple Dysons (oldest is over 10 years), and have bought others for multiple family members (3-5 years). All are going strong with no issues whatsoever, no replacement parts or anything (just occasional filter change).

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stormgirl t1_iu673zt wrote

Same here - ours is 12 years +. We have a spare battery we swap out, they each last 15mins on full force.

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msomnipotent t1_iu6dgyl wrote

Nope. It's just a house with 3 people and pets. The most demanding thing I suck up is some cat litter or maybe some stray dog food. My other vacuums have lasted a lot longer than my Dysons.

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coffeeismymedicine11 t1_iu7c78g wrote

We don't even have pets and are careful with our items and that's really about how long things last.... I think people are surprised because these items used to be quality items but when they got popular profit got put ahead of quality.

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MalagrugrousPatroon t1_iu5h27k wrote

I partially agree. The Dyson vacuum mechanical parts might be buy for life, while the batteries specifically do only last five-ish years. I don't mind that, because I hate having to vacuum with a cord more than I hate having to buy and replace a battery on a multi-year interval. I also like not having to buy bags, and only having to occasionally rinse the filters.

Except, bags to batteries, I would take a guess that the battery is cheaper than the bags over a five year period. And more importantly to the question of BIFL, since the battery is easily purchased and replaced, why would that make it less of a lifelong purchase than something like a flashlight which needs disposable batteries, or a vacuum needing replacement bags? It's not like the battery is locked in, as with smart phones, and designed not to be replaced.

Buy the genuine Dyson battery, don't cheap out. The really cheap, Amazon, batteries don't last as long, nor provide as much oomf. The better aftermarket batteries presumably have better life, and do have better power, but it's still less than a genuine Dyson battery.

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manlywho t1_iu6sphr wrote

Dyson sucks I got less than one year out of my last one, went back to a bissel upright after 3 Dysons kicked the bucket way too soon

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FulltimeHobo t1_iuc8lgx wrote

Technically you returned it because it doesn’t suck any more lol

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MeinScheduinFroiline t1_iu5xcbx wrote

They definitely are not. We had one, it lasted just past two years and the replacement battery cost about 45% of buying a new one. Total scam. We replaced with with a Meile and never looked back!

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