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Sylphael t1_ivkq75y wrote

Don't a lot of these have lead?

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practical_junket t1_ivkuh0d wrote

Is it in the glaze on the crock?

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PresidentialBoneSpur t1_ivkx3yk wrote

Yes.

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practical_junket t1_ivkz7j8 wrote

YIKES!! I have an old crock pot (mid-nineties) that I use all the time in the fall and winter.

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sprucepitch t1_ivn46ie wrote

Lead started being banned in the late 70's, I wouldn't worry about products from the 90's too much. You could try a lead test swab on it though, peace of mind.

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pieman314159 t1_ivl4il2 wrote

Hm, yeah, I too have one from the 90s... were they using lead with those models? Now I kinda need to know...

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Jfkc5117 t1_ivsapwv wrote

I have a bunch of vintage crock pots because I’m weird and I have lead tested them all and only found one with lead from the 1970s. I went through a phase where I bought a bunch of old new in box appliances because they just are better.

You can buy a lead test kit for 15-20 bucks off Amazon to make yourself feel better but unless you got an old model 3100/2 or something from the early 70s I don’t think you should worry.

I use my 1993 West Elm slow cooker 2-3 times a week. Shits amazing.

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MuddyHappiness t1_ivlevx1 wrote

All glazes do not contain lead. Many are formulated using other minerals and do not contain lead at all. There are older formulas that were used which do. Take it from a potter who makes their own glazes. Awww, they deleted their comment that all glazes contain some amount of lead.

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PresidentialBoneSpur t1_ivl9s7a wrote

There is no “safe” amount of lead in anything, but newer is almost always safer than the old stuff.

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siouxze t1_ivlg2rr wrote

And yet you've never fallen ill with lead poisoning. I wouldn't worry too much about about it unless somebody can provide an actual credible source showing where people have been harmed by the lead in these products. If these things were the death machines that this thread would have you believe, you would have heard about it outside of this thread.

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Atomicnes t1_ivlk96e wrote

There is no safe level of lead. You may not show signs of lead poisoning but you are certainly damaging your nervous system.

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siouxze t1_ivpge8b wrote

Show me scientific proof that these pots are leeching lead into peoples food.

I've seen hundreds of people sing the same song as you and no one can show me proof from a credible source that these specific devices are a risk. Everyone just parrots the same bullshit they've read in other threads. Flip through this thread again. Other commenters I called out tried to find credible sources to prove me wrong, and could only find articles to prove themselves wrong. Why dont you go see if you can do better than them.

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ZenoofElia t1_ivpj4um wrote

You have no critical thinking. You blaming everyone but yourself.
You deserve exactly what you're getting and have gotten.

You telling us all that we are wrong is kind of batshit. Wake the fuck up.

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Atomicnes t1_ivmg0b4 wrote

i think if you're getting shot you have more concern with the lead being supersonic rather than lead poisoning

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practical_junket t1_ivm4eab wrote

I always thought that lead was really only a problem in a developing brain. Like you don’t want little kids to be around lead paint or lead water pipes.

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Atomicnes t1_ivkw182 wrote

And also fail modern electrical safety standards.

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thefugue t1_ivmrn0v wrote

That's not because the crock pot is poorly designed or dangerous- it's because modern electrical safety standards have to address a wider variety of products like phone chargers and computer AC adapters that simply didn't exist when the crockpot was made.

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Jaded-Distance_ t1_ivl3kkb wrote

https://tamararubin.com/2020/06/vintage-rival-crock-pot-stoneware-slow-cooker-with-brown-glaze-180-ppm-lead-in-the-food-surface-14000-ppm-lead-in-the-power-cord/

Lots, especially the cords. This person states around 90ppm is the limit of "safe". The food surface of this one was 180, the exterior 4751, and the cord at 14000. Even found some antimony (which I've never heard of before) and sounds like even a tiny amount is capable of giving you some really bad stomach issues.

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thefugue t1_ivmrgez wrote

That has to be the absolute worst source I have ever seen.

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AlienDelarge t1_ivpgboi wrote

Notice its always a different new account posting it too.

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[deleted] t1_ivmtf4l wrote

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thefugue t1_ivmuhqw wrote

…and ignores how the things she tests are used. All while using the fact that she is a “mommy” to evoke some kind of expertise.

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thefugue t1_ivmvhzb wrote

I’m a million percent in favor of keeping lead out of modern products.

If a product has been out there for 60 years and it has no plausible mechanism for the lead in it to cause problems I’m also a million percent against fear mongering about it.

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siouxze t1_ivl7qjh wrote

Do you frequently scrape the paint off the exterior of your crock pot and sprinkle it into your food?

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Grubbens t1_ivla3wa wrote

Yes, when you use a spoon to get the food out. Often times the exterior wall is being scraped. Additionally, lead can probably deposit onto your food during the cooking process due to diffusion.

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siouxze t1_ivpdxjq wrote

Don't use metal utensils on any of your cookware except stainless steel your cookware and don't serve yourself food like a god damn caveman. Problem solved.

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Grubbens t1_ivprc78 wrote

Whatever helps you sleep at night, but even if you are perfect and don't expose yourself to lead via scraping, you are neglecting that diffusion is always adding poisonous amounts of lead into your food as long as you use it. I am not sure why this thread is upsetting you so much; lead has been a publicly poisonous substance for years.

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ashpatash t1_ivlrxql wrote

Lead leaches readily the longer it is exposed to something permeable next to it. Such as a bowl, bathtub, glass, jar, or this crockpot. And since that's how crockpot are meant to be used, long-term slow cooking, I would steer clear. Another example, leaded glass decanters should never hold liquor long term. This is rumored to be the cause of the fall of Rome, wine held in lead glazed pottery.

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siouxze t1_ivpgk70 wrote

Show me scientific proof that these pots are leeching lead into peoples food.

I've seen hundreds of people sing the same song as you and no one can show me proof from a credible source that these specific devices are a risk. Everyone just parrots the same bullshit they've read in other threads. Flip through this thread again. Other commenters I called out tried to find credible sources to prove me wrong, and could only find articles to prove themselves wrong. Why dont you go see if you can do better than them.

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ashpatash t1_ivqa0ay wrote

I doubt there is scientific journal article on exactly vintage slow cookers in the United States but there are numerous on ceramic glazed pottery. Simply, the standards for lead allowance in consumer goods in the US have been abysmal. Here are some generic articles on lead glazed ceramics leaching. here here and this quote from consumer reports on lead testing vintage ceramics. This includes vintage and older ceramics made before 1992, when the FDA instituted its current lead guidelines for food-safe ceramics; imported ceramics or those you bought abroad (where safety standards may be more lax); or ceramics made by hobbyist ceramicists if you’re unsure they comply with safety standards by using lead-free materials, or whether they use quality kilns that run at the high temperatures necessary to properly fuse the materials.

This investigative reporter Bill Gephardt from KUTV news did a report on exactly this, slow cookers, in 2004. Here is his twitter @gephardtgetsit but not sure if he's still alive. He seems to have website now called Gephardtdaily.com. @kslgephardt on twitter is probably family relation. I cannot find his broadcast since it's before internet news broadcasts were a thing but this article outlines his investigation and the scientific results. He even comments to author at end of article about the attempts to pass new laws related to lead in Congress. I'm sure he can be contacted if he is alive. The article author states she contacted Crock pot brand and they said yes they contain lead (but below then governments threshold in 2004). That's how they used to get around it. These levels have been amended numerous times, in the 70s and 80s their allowable lead level was much worse.

My daughter was lead poisoned in 2016. I have attended lead poisoning symposiums in Washington DC and listened to some of the top lead specialists speak on this topic. I am by no means an authority but believe them when they strongly recommend not using vintage cooking/bakeware/dishes for consumption. It was even investigated by health department when they came to my house. But gamble with it if you want. Though effects on adults still serious. Just don't gamble with a child's life.

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ZenoofElia t1_ivkxisu wrote

Yes. OP should buy a test kit to make sure it's safe.

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siouxze t1_ivl8q62 wrote

I have the same exact crockpot. It was my moms, now it's mine. I've neen eating meals from it my entire life and Never once in 35+ years of use have I (or anyone else in my family) ever popped positive for lead in a blood test. I've never heard of anyone being lead posioned by vintage kitchenwares. I've seen plenty of overreacting and pearl clutching over the alleged lead content. Given that these products were in a substantial number of american homes one would think that a big bold direct line back to these products would have been drawn LONG ago if there was actually any real threat to anyone.

Edit for the idiots who just parrot what they've read in other reddit threads: But consumers need not fret in the dark. The FDA maintains a list of products it has tested that have revealed lead contamination. The good news: Not a single crockpot is listed.

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ZenoofElia t1_ivl9jw2 wrote

Okay then. However it's a fact that there's lead in many of these AND buying a test is super cheap comparative to recklessly poisoning ones family.

You do you Siouxze.

edit: just looked through your post history and saw this, which absolutely could be related to lead poisoning:

>Having my thyroid removed, which had been overtaken by a massive cancerous tumor, was an elective surgery. Diagnosed 1/17, scheduled for removal almost a month later. It was a SUPER FUN month.

Please know that I post this not to be a dick or snarky. Life is crazy and things add up and I am so sorry you've gone through this, whether related or not.
Be well.

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GreyGoosey t1_ivmsdbh wrote

Most crockpots are like what $20-30? Small price to remove lead from your cookware…

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siouxze t1_ivpcjai wrote

>recklessly poisoning ones family.

Lol. Ok. If these things have been recklessly poisoning families for 50 years, why isnt everyone walking around with cancer? Maybe it's because my cancer had nothing to do with a crockpot and everything to do with the american healthcare systems failings and bad genetics. If these things were as deadly as people claim they'd be banned from thriftstores, ebay, etc like the corningware electric kettles.

Wait until you find out about nonstick coatings. You will shit a brick.

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ZenoofElia t1_ivpdfs0 wrote

Yep. I don't touch teflon, also cancerous.

You're the one in denial who is actively poisoning your body. Go ahead. Keep it up.

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>If these things have been recklessly poisoning families for 50 years, why isnt everyone walking around with cancer? Maybe it's because my cancer had nothing to do with a crockpot and everything to do with the american healthcare systems failings and bad genetics.

LOL. Look at all the cases of cancers in the last 50 years. It has everything to do with families poisoning their systems whether with lead, teflon, mercury, etc. It's a combination of poor choices and denialism.

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siouxze t1_ivphtb6 wrote

Fun fact: most older american homes have lead water intake pipes. Youre trying to make this about crock pots when it's not. Flint Michigan is not an isolated case. An unnerving amount of america has way more lead exposure than they realize. Just not from these old crock pots.

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ZenoofElia t1_ivpinpe wrote

I'm not blaming it solely on crock pots. Like I stated in my very first response to your crazy ass replies, it all adds up. It's a combination of poor choices; lead in water pipes, paint, crockpots; teflon cookware, living near petrolium plant; it all adds up Soixzie.

Grow up. Wake up. Take some responsibility and open your eyes.

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roninwarshadow t1_ivnqmvi wrote

Post proof that Crock Pots are a leading cause of lead poisoning.

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ZenoofElia t1_ivnyjy7 wrote

I never claimed that they’re the “leading” cause, I responded to Souizxe who made claims that there’s no relation or history of cause yet she ended up with thyroid cancer. You prove there is not.

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roninwarshadow t1_ivnzl3z wrote

You can't prove a negative (prove there isn't). It's like saying "Prove unicorns and vampires DON'T exists." See Russell's Flying Teapot.

And I made no claim, so I have nothing to prove.

You're saying there's a link between their thyroid cancer and their usage of a Crock Pot.

Prove the connection and back your claim.

This is the Burden of Proof. Claimant must prove their claim, if they want to be believed. The skeptic doesn't need to prove anything to remain skeptical.

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ZenoofElia t1_ivnzun9 wrote

I only expressed the correlation. I don’t need to prove anything to you or her. Bugger off lil ronin

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siouxze t1_ivpd3l9 wrote

Because you really have NOTHING but internet speculation for proof.

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ZenoofElia t1_ivpdr6z wrote

Not speculation Souixze. It's a fact there's lead in those old crockpots.
It's a fact that lead poisoning is a factor in thyroid cancer.
Denial only gets you what you've got/had. Good luck.

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roninwarshadow t1_ivo0973 wrote

So you got no proof to back your claim?

So all we have is wild speculation and nothing to back it.

Cool, here is my "correlation," every one who got thyroid cancer drinks water and breathes air.

Air and water cause cancer.

Is this how this works?

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siouxze t1_ivpdad2 wrote

Omg, you're right. I do drink water and breathe air. That must be what caused my cancer! /s

Wait until all these idiots find out the water intake pipe on their house/apartment building is made of lead.

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DatWeedCard t1_ivliaun wrote

So to clarify, you're using anecdotal experience to determine whether or not lead paint is dangerous?

Ngl the lack of critical thinking impies to me that the lead poisoning may have taken hold

> Given that these products were in a substantial number of american homes one would think that a big bold direct line back to these products would have been drawn LONG ago if there was actually any real threat to anyone.

My guy you literally made a post about how you had a cancerous tumor removed from your thyroid

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siouxze t1_ivpf7ie wrote

No, I'm not using my anecdotal evidence. I'm going off of seeing tbese comments hundreds of times and literally no one being able to provide a credible source. In fact I challenged another commenter that was of the same mindset as you. They did their own research to prove they were right and all they could find was an NPR article exonerating crock pots and proving me right.

Why don't you take a crack at it and see if you cant prove me wrong. I'd love to see your proof.

Also, My thyroid cancer was from a genetic condition being left wildly untreated for 8+ years. But good try champ.

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DamnYouRichardParker t1_ivnjwg4 wrote

So you expect us to believe that you and your family have been tested for led in your system ?

And that since you and you're family haven't had an issue, that is supposed to mean no one in the history of the world could possibly have a problem with led poisoning related to kitchenware ?

Is that your argument?

This article from NPR explains how you're absolutly wrong.

Here educate yourself. You mite not look so foolish next you comment on something you obviously have no clue what you're talking about.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2017/12/08/563808879/can-your-ceramic-cookware-give-you-lead-poisoning

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siouxze t1_ivtf319 wrote

You need to go back and read the whole article my friend.

But consumers need not fret in the dark. The FDA maintains a list of products it has tested that have revealed lead contamination. The good news: Not a single crockpot is listed.

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DamnYouRichardParker t1_ivzs8zz wrote

I did.

But obviously you need to go back and read my comment cause you mention kitchenware. And the article confirms that there is lead poisoning in kitchenware.

Your entire arrogant rant calling people stupid is pretty rich bud...

Jesus fuck. The reading and critical thinking skills of people here are fucken low to non existant.

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roninwarshadow t1_ivnuqt0 wrote

From the article...

> But consumers need not fret in the dark. The FDA maintains a list of products it has tested that have revealed lead contamination. The good news: Not a single crockpot is listed. Many ceramics makers have switched to lead-free glazes. For example, Crock-Pot (the brand name that inspired a host of similar ceramic slow cookers now generically known as crockpots), tells callers in an automated message that it uses no lead additive in its glazes.

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DamnYouRichardParker t1_ivp3kei wrote

From your comment

>I've never heard of anyone being lead posioned by vintage kitchenwares.

I specifically replied to you because of this comment and the article does mention specific cases where people have actually been poisoned by vintage kitchenware so...

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roninwarshadow t1_ivpkjtc wrote

Not my comment - check Usernames.

But it specifically states Crock Pots have not been known to give lead contamination.

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Argle t1_ivl0wf7 wrote

I used to make fun of the kids eating paint chips, but it turns out I ate off Corelle lead tainted dinnerware for most of my life.

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siouxze t1_ivl7kaa wrote

Unless you were chipping the paint off the plates and eating that, your "exposure" to lead via corelle was negligible at best.

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turk4lyfe t1_ivm12bz wrote

If Corelle plates, which are in millions of homes still, were actually a health hazard don't you think major health organizations would be warning against their use instead of just one blogger who was kicked out of her nonprofit?

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Alternative-Skill167 t1_ivmzzx5 wrote

I mean the American Heart Association claimed that we should be eating more carbs (sugar) and less saturated fat/meat at one point, and look where that got us (obesity)

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turk4lyfe t1_ivo9vb9 wrote

You're saying Americans followed that advice and started eating less saturated fat? And those Americans are the ones that became obese? High carb low fat diets are still good for heart disease.

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