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Fjallraven pants waxed or filson waxed tin cloth.

I have both and use them for HARD outdoor work (especially the tin cloth pants)

Cheers. The Filsons look incredible. Designed to last! Thank you!

1620 Workwear. Filson has REALLY went downhill over the last decade or so

I think I have the bedale, unfortunately about a year or two in and it’s got quite a few tears/worn through spots :-( needs a re-wax too

Barbour will do repairs and rewaxing for a reasonable price

It’s an amazing jacket. Got mine in september though so haven’t really gone through the seasons with it yet. The quality seems good, and it is proudly made in England!

Cheers I may need to take them up on that!

I second that

Those filsons will last you MANY years.

Do you take your boots to a cobbler when the soles wear out? I’ve been wearing bares for years but buy a new pair every couple or so.

I have never had to repair them! Their main use is in wet areas or on snow. The soles are rubber so I guess I’d buy new boots and break them in in the bathtub again👍🏻

5.11 canvas pants

I find most modern outdoor pants lack durability. Too many details, thin fabric, etc.

Since you're already into M77 boots, why not go with the good old M75 pants? Really thick cotton, very durable.

They are hard to come by these days, though.

I second the 5.11 pants.

Just as a bit of a counter, for all intents Filson is now a fashion brand, and the longevity of their clothing is far less than what it was in decades prior.

If I were to buy a pant to use heavily it would be the Fjallraven pants you linked 10 out of 10 times.

If they last 50 years or not will really depend on how often you wear them, how hard on them you are, and how on top of the up keep you are on them.

I don't have any strong recommendations for outdoor pants that will last 50 years, because honestly if you're doing outdoor things in them I'd be surprised if any pants truly lasted that long.

Are you Wranglerstar?

Fjallraven is my choice over Filson for these exact reasons. Fjallraven pants will look new after they're ran over by a few trains. Not really, but it wouldn't surprise me if it happened.

Many years without being able to wash them?

Not sure I'm keen on that.

Yeah, my goal isn’t to make it last fifty years, I just need pants that will last a long time, that are heavy duty and look alright!

Cotton pants are unusable in the outdoors.

Most pants are cotton, including ones used in the outdoors. M75 and many others like it are/were standard issue military pants.

I used M75 in active duty and wore them every day. In anything from hot and dry summer days to rain, river crossings and soggy marshlands, full winter and anything in between.

Sure there are plastic ones with fancy membranes. They are nice, but not especially durable. Jackets are a bit different IMO, as they do not receive as rough a treatment as pants. I thus prefer such a jacket and cotton pants.

Thick cotton pants do have their drawbacks -- they are heavy, slow drying and stiff when frozen. But they are rough as hell and you can waterproof them to a certain extent.

Most pants are unusable.

You can absolutely have extremely hardwearing non-cotton pants. Fjallraven is great for this.

I love cotton pants in some situations, Duluth firehose canvas are my gotos, but I work indoors as an electrician. I'd never wear them in the heat.

Rip stop nylon isn’t cotton.

You can wash them. You can clean them after every use and you can reapply the oil if you decide to thoroughly wash them.

I do like the guy. I credit him with my Scandinavian forest axe and many more of my tools.

If you wear them exclusively doing outdoor stuff, you probably have long johns on so it's not actually touching your sweat.

You can also wash and rewax them.

While this is true, some things are unchanged in quality. Their bags, their mackinaw wool, and the tin cloth jackets and pants. Among others.

So yes, don’t buy a tshirt or hat if you want “buy it for life” but definitely invest in their tried and true gear.

I agree with you that much of their stuff has gone the way of carhartt and other brands (banana republic, north face etc.).

I will say that a large portion of filsons gear is still BIFL.

Edit: I would also say that Filson and fjallraven are vastly different in their utility. Trekking…tfjallraven. Heavy farm work…filson.

Trekking in tin pants is unbearable. But waxed fhallraven has been with me all over the backcountry for hiking, backpacking, orienteering….

But, I only chop wood in Filson tin cloth and (if the situation necessitates) husky chaps for chainsaws.

Important distinctions.

I like the Stryke pants, they’re ripstop cotton/poly. I always find that heavy canvas stuff holds a lot more dirt and sets creases in specific places so it always flexes around that point and wears out quicker than you’d expect.

I don't doubt that Filson still has some quality stuff, for now, but that said if all you're doing is chopping wood in them, then they are really vastly overkill for your use case anyway and you wouldn't realistically notice a degradation in quality.

I have no doubt their stuff is still made to take more of a beating than something from Levis, for example, but it has fallen from where it was.

Fjallraven Vidda pro

That was an example of what I do in these pants. I mow, plant, reap, hunt, and play on the property in these pants.

But I see what you’re saying. They are a serious pant. And they will last a very long time.

About the quality of this particular garment; i must respectfully disagree.

Enjoy your night.

I've got a pair of Prana Zion pants that has been on nearly every backpacking and hiking trip for 10 years. When I bought them I wouldn't have guessed that would have been the case, but dang, they are great.

I have very few prana items, but what I have is amazing. Everything from the fit to the feel of the materials. You reminded me I need more prana haha

I can’t figure out why it’s so tough to find heavy wool pants. Closest I’ve ever found is European military surplus, but they’re always for people with 30-inch waists.

Big Bill

M77's are cool, just too bad they're not using a welted construction (afaik) so they'd be easy to resole. Probably because simpler welts will leak water and waterproof welts get expensive to mass produce so not practical for the army.

Ironically, the more waterproof "Storm welt" is also called the Norwegian welt, I think they invented it.

Banger pants

It will be a cold day in hell before I pay 400 fuckin dollars for a wool shirt... Filson is on crack charging that much. Has their stuff always been so expensive?

I had a pair of Filson double tin chaps for upland game hunting. They were in tatters by year 3. The waxes canvas is cool and all but it’s not indestructible by any means IMO

I mentioned it to the original commenter but I’ll mention it here as well. I got a pair of Filson double tin chaps for upland game hunting and had them in tatters after 3 years. They’re for sure cool looking but if you’re gonna be wading through briars on the regular they will wear out

You’re going to sacrifice either breathability or durability IMO. Not sure what’s more important to you. You can do canvas pants if all sorts (Carhartt type, brand probably doesn’t matter a ton) or more breathable ones along the 1620 line (poly, nyco, spandex, nylon types or blends) I just got the 1620 lined pants with a cordura Chap front (the only lined model they have) and like them so far. I have only worn them a handful of times however. I got some Triple Aught Design AC10 pants for summer time foraging and fishing, nylon style hiking pants and love them so far (2/3 years? Wear them a lot in the summer). They’re nylon hiking pants though, so not something I’m running through briars in if I can help it however I’ve found myself in some crappy situations and while they off little leg protection they haven’t ripped yet. Triple aught design also has some heavier duty pants but I haven’t tried any of them as of yet. Prometheus Design works is similar and uses the same materials. I’d like to give wintergreen northern wear pants a try eventually here as well.

Search “cottage industry outdoor cloths” or “cottage industry back packing/hiking” cloths or something along those lines. There’s a bunch of companies out there making some really good stuff with top of the line materials. There aren’t a ton of actual options out there: there are only so many fabrics and a lot of the company’s use the same source for fabrics and just throw a different label on them after their personal design.

ECWCS US Military gore-tex over pants. Pretty indestructible, weather proof. I use them for off trail bushwhacking and as the top winter/snow layer. I bought mine surplus/used from ebay…less than $50.

I don't know if they have always been as expensive as they are now, I'll admit I'm not a fashion writer or anything, but they have always been more expensive than something like Carhartt as long as I've been around.

Historically, the quality justified the additional cost for hard work, even when Carhartt was in its better quality years, and especially if you wanted to not be throwing stuff away often.

Currently, from what I've seen and read, they have turned wholly into a fashion brand. Some of that is good, more modern cuts, some cool t shirt designs, and makes it more likely to continue on. However, it's also bad for durability, since as the market is more fashion focused, people demand clothing that is soft and fits well for casual use.

what about an outdoor pant that’s actually soft on the inside and comfortable?

Duluth briar pants and the wrangler ranger rip stop pants are great and not too expensive.