Noteful t1_ix8knfr wrote on November 21, 2022 at 4:06 PM

Reply to comment by regaphysics in Anyone have experience with Columbia's winter gear? How are they nowadays? by [deleted]

Read again. I never said they were BIFL. My argument is that they can last a decade when we'll taken care of.

regaphysics t1_ix8la05 wrote on November 21, 2022 at 4:10 PM

I mean, the soles (or insoles) won’t. Leather upper sure, but that’s not what wears out on shoes. I have 10 year old synthetic material shoes that are perfectly fine in the upper…

So yeah $300 boots + resoling + maintenance + insoles will last 10 years? That’s not really saying anything.

Noteful t1_ix8r3uj wrote on November 21, 2022 at 4:51 PM

I don't think that's as unreasonable as you make it out to be. Resole through Redwings and it's $125. You can also resole through your local cobbler with a heavy duty sole for around the same price I bet. That's $550~ for 10 years of use including the price of the shoes, 2 resoles, and leather conditioner.

No shoe is going to be BIFL, but that option is just as good.

regaphysics t1_ix8srzy wrote on November 21, 2022 at 5:02 PM

Not going to argue other than to say that’s more than I spend in the same time for my footwear and in no way do I consider it anything close to bifl. It certainly doesn’t “last” 10 years if you spend more than 50% of the original purchase price (really more like 100%) to replace pieces of it.

Noteful t1_ix90ww1 wrote on November 21, 2022 at 5:56 PM

The Redwings I wear for work are $325 + tax. I'm not going to spend $325 after 4-5 years when I can spend $125 on a re-sole. So again, you're vastly exaggerating costs, and you're wrong there, at least in that specific case.

regaphysics t1_ix92cjn wrote on November 21, 2022 at 6:05 PM

Huh? You just said $325 to buy and 2x $125 soles over 10 years. That is 325 + $250 (77% of the original purchase price) + leather conditioner = ~$600 over 10 years.

>I don't think that's as unreasonable as you make it out to be. Resole through Redwings and it's $125. You can also resole through your local cobbler with a heavy duty sole for around the same price I bet. That's $550~ for 10 years of use including the price of the shoes, 2 resoles, and leather conditioner.

Nobody is vastly exaggerating anything. I am taking your numbers you just posted. You are spending $600 for boots over 10 years on the original $325 purchase. That also doesn't include the insole which you should be replacing every 6 months or so and is $40 or so, but lets say you only do it yearly. That alone adds in $400 over 10 years.

The reality is the majority of the costs are - shockingly - in the sole and insole which are what wear out in shoes. Including insoles yearly, that is $650 over 10 years for soles and insoles, whereas the original purchase was $325.

Noteful t1_ix93lqp wrote on November 21, 2022 at 6:13 PM

Leather conditioner is not that expensive. I'm done here.

regaphysics t1_ix9718d wrote on November 21, 2022 at 6:36 PM

$25 for 10 years worth of leather conditioner? Are you being for real right now? That is the point you want to contest? LOL what a joke. Yes, you are done. Put a fork in ya.