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gruntothesmitey t1_ix8yg7l wrote

Reply to comment by TheLittlestTiefling in ISO: Ethical Cookware by amnotanyonecool

> using PTFE

Teflon is somehow unethical?

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amnotanyonecool OP t1_ix8yrmq wrote

It’s a “forever chemical” and damages water systems.

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gruntothesmitey t1_ix8zwb2 wrote

At temps below around 500F it's so chemically inert it can't even get wet. It's used in medical devices like stents and artificial joints.

Again, not getting the ethics violations here...

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that_cachorro_life t1_ix9fdgo wrote

the forever chemicals are dumped into the environment during manufacturing way more than when you cook. its actually super terrible.

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TheLittlestTiefling t1_ix8yzny wrote

Teflon, when burned, is very bad for the environment (and you). It's also a pollutant to make and, esp in cheap products, the factory workers might not have proper PPE. Ceramic is a better option environmentally, though sourcing- wise the mica might be mined by kids, so it's kind of a catch 22 situation

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juicysweatsuitz t1_ix917fh wrote

Awful for the planet.

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gruntothesmitey t1_ix9680w wrote

So think about all the electronic components in the device you used to post that: where they came from, how they were made, and what happens to them when you dispose of it and get a new device...

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juicysweatsuitz t1_ix9edxw wrote

I’ve had the same phone for years :) cheap Teflon pans don’t last this long. Also I NEED a cellular device in this day and age. I don’t use Teflon, goretex, harsh cleaning chemicals, laundry detergents. Literally everything I purchase is as environmentally friendly as possible. Once they come up with an eco friendly phone I’ll be all over that. But until then I’ll use this one until it breaks and I absolutely have to get another one. Just because I have ONE thing isn’t great for the environment doesn’t mean I should give up everywhere else. 🫡

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gruntothesmitey t1_ix9jr8e wrote

> Once they come up with an eco friendly phone I’ll be all over that.

A smart phone that doesn't use rare earth metals isn't going to ever happen.

> Just because I have ONE thing isn’t great for the environment doesn’t mean I should give up everywhere else

Oh, for sure. I just thought it was somewhat ironic.

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