Submitted by Smoothlarryy t3_zwq0e9 in BuyItForLife
I need a backpack that can carry 100-110 pounds without the straps giving out, I’ve already ran through a few hiking backpacks and want to invest in something more high quality.
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slade797 t1_j1w9t5g wrote
USMC pack like an ILBE or FILBE. The CFP-90 is also a good choice, although much less user-friendly. I’ve owned all three, ILBE is my choice of the three.
Funny-Tradition-2906 t1_j1wb3gq wrote
GoRuck. Expensive but designed to carry weight. Period
subtle-sam t1_j1wbyry wrote
Over 100lbs is a wild load. I would suggest an old school frame pack that you can strap dry bags to. Or reducing the loads.
Smoothlarryy OP t1_j1wholn wrote
I am carrying rocks like small landscaping rocks
DrKennethNoisewater- t1_j1whviv wrote
You’d probably be good then. Expensive bag though.
h3nt3n_1 t1_j1wl5f4 wrote
I highly recommend Exo Mountain Gear, if you are willing to spend the money.
Quail-a-lot t1_j1wr5o7 wrote
You are going to abrade the fabric on things like military surplus and military-inspired stuff like Goruck carrying around rocks unless you are padding them.
You'd be better off dragging them out with a sledge, and then you can easily roll them right onto it too. If you have to haul them out by backpack, an old external frame like a Kelty is your best best, but you will need to reinforce and do many repairs to the bag attached to the frame. Depending on the shape though, you might be able to pad a large specimen and just strap it right on.
Srs_Bizz t1_j1wrb39 wrote
You hit the mark at the end of your comment... reduce the load!
Backpackers should only carry 25% of their body weight for a short period of time... 20% is the recommended regular maximum to avoid excess risk of injury.
For those wondering... yes, these civilian recommendations contradict some common practice by the military. There is a reason soldiers are more prone to lifelong injuries, and it's not all because of being downrange from hostiles.
When backpacking near max recommended weight, hiking poles are highly recommended. These can take up to about 15% of the load force off your leg muscles and place it onto your upper body muscles, which are otherwise not really engaged while hiking.
NOTE: This comment assumes OP does not weigh 400lbs+
Srs_Bizz t1_j1wrep0 wrote
More trips, fewer rocks.
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stereolithography t1_j1wwsmx wrote
Recommendations from lowest to most expensive in price:
Standard issue military Alice Pack
Tactical Tailor MALICE pack
Mystery Ranch Rats pack (this would work for barbell plates but idk about rocks)
If you're using this for some training and that's it, I'd go Alice, else MALICE or Rats. I own a Rats pack and have jumped out of the back of a helicopter, with 120lbs on it, so can attest to it being able to carry the load, but also know guys that had the other 2 and they also had no issues. The Rats has the nicest frame, but if you aren't wearing it for 6+ hours at a time, then it's probably overkill.
Jimmytowne t1_j1wxdji wrote
Did you find treasure deep in a cave?
Smoothlarryy OP t1_j1wyxqe wrote
Thank you this has been my favorite answer so far! Yes this is just for training the bag stays on for about 30 min at a time I do calisthenics so it’s definitely not gonna be 6+ hours at a time. My last one held up for 4 months with about 108 pounds in it before the strap snapped from pull-ups so I will look into Alice , malice and Rats. Thanks again !
Medium_Brood5095 t1_j1wznx1 wrote
You may want to look into Nutnfancy's older backpacking videos and gear reviews. Probably the models discontinued but the principles could be applied to packs today. He was a big proponent of external frame for larger packs. He's the only other person I've ever heard talk about carrying 100 lbs in a backpack before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynIlrp3r_zY&list=PLogYo97B9UOfDaqOIdI0d9IYLAGoSHdl_&index=3
TheGutch74 t1_j1x0kb3 wrote
Look into hunting backpacks not hiking packs.. Especially those meant to haul game meat. Some of them are rated or tested with over 200 lbs. They ain't gonna be cheap though.
katCEO t1_j1x5243 wrote
My most rugged outdoor stuff is probably Orvis. Eddie Bauer has sold me good bookbags in the past but their customer service has been shot for a couple of years already. I will not even bore you with the details of my last customer service experience. Anyway: REI has good stuff. Oh! I forgot: Kelty! Call Kelty. I have a pouch from them that is rugged as hell!
oof_ope_yikes t1_j1xbp1m wrote
I have an osprey backpack and I’ve had it for about 12 years, still going strong and I’ve used it heavily. Plus they repair and sell replace components so you don’t have to buy a whole new one if a buckle breaks
captain_joe6 t1_j1xdtv9 wrote
Brother have I got just the thing for you.
stereolithography t1_j1xf2ti wrote
If you're just wearing it for 30 min, I'd go Alice Pack, but try to swing by a military surplus store and try one out before pulling the trigger to see how it fits. The folks that run those are usually chill and probably won't care if you load it up before trying it on, but I'd ask first lol. If you can find one, the older army packs, with metal frames, are the way to go. They can be better adjusted to fit your body and are bomb proof, but I've seen the newer plastic frame ones be put through tons of abuse
Smoothlarryy OP t1_j1xk6b5 wrote
this will be a serious consideration as well I like that basket style a lot I think it would work well and it seems very reasonably priced for how reinforced and quality it is. Thank you!
Smoothlarryy OP t1_j1xkgzw wrote
I Didn’t even think of an military surplus store duh and There’s one pretty close to me so this is perfect. I’ll stop by there tomorrow and look for an Alice pack. Thank you so much !
Quail-a-lot t1_j1xnhou wrote
Oh geesh, for training hit up used sporting goods store and just chuck weights in there. Or water bladders. Your bag body will last a lot longer then.
captain_joe6 t1_j1xpfig wrote
Be aware that price is just for the bag and insert, the frame costs extra.
In reality, though, the frame is fucking solid and the bag is just an ALICE pack with a trash can in it.
Food for thought.
Dear_Brilliant1679 t1_j1xr4pl wrote
Osprey has a really nice warranty program, not sure how they hold up to that much weight but if the straps do break they’ll give you a new one.
Dear_Brilliant1679 t1_j1xr7wb wrote
Plus Osprey bags have a lifetime warranty
dnullify t1_j1y8tie wrote
I'm pretty sure I've seen plate carrier style harnesses that can be loaded up with iron 45's.
Found it: https://www.roguefitness.com/outdoorsman-atlas-trainer
This is what you're looking for, you need something purpose built, most bags aren't meant to be yanked around at those loads.
Only other thing would be the go-ruck rucking style bags with other handles and whatnot.
MolVol t1_j1yeph1 wrote
have you considered the weight vests? a friend of mine (she's tiny - about 5' tall, size zero) was training for a big mountain climb (in Pacific NWest).. she got a small vest, then also a large vest - wore them both and ran a few miles a day..... just thinking maybe you could wear a vest (or two), then if really ambitious backtop w/ weight as third layer.... the vests WILL stay on well, and if do this, won't stress a backback too much.
Legitimate_Street_85 t1_j1yk1nc wrote
Kelty Redwing Tatical. Or 5.11 Rush72. Or go external frame pack.
Had both issued to me over the years.
The 5.11 i have is over 10 years old now. Itll hold 100lbs no problem but itll be hell hauling it around. Tough but not very ergonomic. Great to throw on a truck or move short distances.
Kelty took their outdoor line of backpacks and beefed them up with thicker nylon. 4ish years old. It's the best blend I've seen of tactical bs and actually using it as a 2 or 3 day pack.
I've had 100lbs in a backpack a handful of times in life. It is hell once you hit inclines or switchbacks. Understand your calorie requirement just got jacked to the tits for the next few days to recover.
sol209 t1_j1ymyna wrote
Look at highend hunting gears. They usually have them figured out. KUIU is a great company.
Outnabout3535325 t1_j1yrcop wrote
holy hell dude you must be an absolute beast!
hiimsubclavian t1_j1yukpa wrote
45~50 kilograms is pretty insane. You disposing a body or something?
rehtulx t1_j1yxaug wrote
I won’t say nobody was, but very few people in the military were ever carrying 100-125 pounds in a backpack.
A lot of the weight was distributed elsewhere in our body armor/plates, weapons, helmet, NVG, ammo/batteries radios on the front of our vests, etc
Even then, the motto was “light as right”—we try to strip as much weight as possible by doing things like taking everything out of its container, carrying loose amino instead of extra magazines etc
And to your point, yes, my knees and back are still permanently fucked up from it, and I never even jumped much.
trev_or_trevor_ t1_j1zbp4g wrote
Look at Hill People Gear. Expensive, but the best.
Smoothlarryy OP t1_j200luu wrote
Awesome thank you! It’s good to see someone mentioning 5.11 you were the first one to do so. There is a 5.11 store near where I live and I am pretty impatient when it Comes to waiting on things so I went and got the rush72 2.0 this morning, loaded it up and used it for a workout and I gotta say so far so good! No creaks or snaps so far from this bag. Thanks again!
Legitimate_Street_85 t1_j201bnh wrote
Good to hear my dude. Hopefully it holds up! Mine has been thru hell but not necessarily loaded with 100lb constantly. Good luck with your training.
Von_Lehmann t1_j202mc3 wrote
I use Hill People Gear. Maybe check Goruck for training
pdubs5290 t1_j20fk2t wrote
I run the exo mountain gear packs for hunting, can easily run 100+ in them.
I also used the USMC main pack (FILBE) and humped 100+ pounds in it for 3 weeks at mountain warfare training center in the winter.
One of the biggest issues with weight is not suing the hip belts correctly. Should ride high on your hips and extend above your head.
Smoothlarryy OP t1_j276aaj wrote
Fuck you were right lol I got a 5.11 rush 72 military backpack which I have used twice with the weight in it and there is a tiny rip in the bottom from the weight and extra abrasion of the rocks. I’m gonna take them out and pad the bottom like you said and try putting them back in to see if it holds up.
Quail-a-lot t1_j27d7vy wrote
Haha, yeah I am a rockhound and was also previously in the military so I am familiar with those backpacks as well (and really not a fan to tell the truth, military gear sucks ass). I have been known to actually haul rocks for funsies in my backpack. This will destroy both military and hiking backpacks xD
I still think used weights or just jugs of water might be a bit easier in the end to throw in there. A gallon of water weighs about 8.35 pounds and a 2 liter soda bottle is about 4.4 pounds. You will have a bit of extra challenge the larger your container is because water is a liquid and therefore not static. If you don't want any sloshing, freeze it, or else just enjoy the bonus training.
You deffo want an external frame when putting weird-shaped hard objects in your backpack and to pad any corners. Even if you go with milk jugs and whatnot, I'd toss in a blanket or an old coat or something as padding or at least some cardboard.
Smoothlarryy OP t1_j29w1dd wrote
Yeah I’m gonna empty it out tonight pad it with either towels or a blanket and try putting them back in hopefully it’ll hold up now and it wont rip anymore it was an expensive bag. I have weights in there as well on top of the rocks the problem is i just don’t have enough of them as I’d like haha that is a good point about the water jugs though I’ll see if I can try and incorporate that to
DrKennethNoisewater- t1_j1w59wf wrote
GoRuck. Edit* a bigger factor is probably what the weight is you are carrying. Goruck is designed for mass but not necessarily density. Also I am an idiot and my mass and density example might not be right.