Submitted by OniTux t3_zfgw3j in BuyItForLife
Hello,
I have to buy a new fridge (after ten years or more, I am not sure, it is second-hand) and I have difficulty to choose the right brand. Which European brand I should check for a new fridge with a bottom freezer and no-frost technology?
Thank you
Liebherr maybe?
At the risk of sounding like a fanboy.... BOSCH BOSCH BOSCH
They are the one and only brand in pretty much everything from wiper motors to fridges that still have screws and nuts you can take off. Things behind a Bosch is removable, replaceable, repairable. Compare this with any of the chinese or korean brands, and you will see that they are sealed. Pipes are welded and glued on, backs are closed on... it's so obvious, it is sad.
My oldest machines that still run (not even repaired yet) are Bosch.
Dishwasher = 12 years
Fridge = 15 years (and 3 years)
Heck, I bought my second mahindra because half of the stuff under the hood are Bosch parts that I can yank out and replace myself.
Just my 50c.
PS: there's probably some other old brands that still make things like this (Phillips ??)
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSH_Hausger%C3%A4te
Almost all Bosch and Siemens household appliances are identical. ( u/GizatiStudio: Gaggenau is a BSH brand too!).
That's good to know. 👍
My parents house has a Gaggenau gas cooktop from the 1980’s and a steam oven they bought in 2005, both are still in regular use. I think the cooktop is pre-Bosch and Gaggenau is a very old German brand established back in the 17th century. Oh and their steam ovens are amazing, I bought one ten years ago.
Miele.
Ftw Sub-Zero or Gaggenau
I don't think too many people there are going to be in the market for $15-25k fridges.
Also, while subzero makes great stuff, it is expensive to maintain. A fridge may very well be BIFL, but expect to spend the cost of a typical consumer grade fridge on repairs and maintenance every 5 years.
Idk where you are you getting prices over $20k, maybe a wide built-in with every option, my full size side-by-side was under $10k not so long ago and the only thing I have replaced is a $65 water filter every six months or so. However there are plenty of folk paying much higher than this where I live, so there certainly is demand for Sub Zero refrigerators in the range you mention.
Unless you wheel and deal their line starts around $13k for their smaller model, and goes up from there.
My experience admittedly is just my uncle who has one for as long as I could remember and my dad being a corporate pilot worked for a lot of Uber wealthy people and when he wasn't flying they always had him doing random shit, trying to fix their sub zeros in their various houses ended up being a big part of his job. Condensers/fans/compressors went out on them, no more often (probably less often) then on a consumer fridge, but the repair costs were much much higher. $2k repair calls weren't out of the question from what I recall. It's been probably 5+ years though so maybe things have changed.
Liebherr - Miele is made by Liebherr btw so don't have to pay extra for it.
Bosch/Siemens, Liebherr/Miele
AllisterMcCool t1_izc7r7l wrote
Don't buy Samsung. They make terrible appliances. I ran an appliance store for awhile and Samsung had terrible customer service and low quality products. Every other day we would get angry calls for Samsung products. They were probly 10% of our sold products and like 80% of problem calls.