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ubermonkey t1_j6j0vhi wrote

Reply to comment by sunflowercompass in This espresso machine is from 2004, i got it from Savers last year and it works like brand new. I know people online who have even older ones that still work perfectly. by Waryur

Were they ever really that cheap?

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sunflowercompass t1_j6j7w9a wrote

Yeah I even bought a super automatic from Delonghi for $800 in 2009. Checking now, you can get a super auto from same manufacturer for $800. It jammed a lot, too many parts. Don't like it.

Not a fan of Italian machines either. I remember I couldn't even reach support (no email, just a voicemail in Italian).

Now I just do hot water dispenser, aeropress, and a manual grinder. I have gone through many, including the famed rocky. That jammed a lot. People on the internet: STOP USING dark oily beans. But.. that's what I like to drink.

Kitchenaid burr grinder, that's lasted me 15 years+, only jams once a year if even that. Broke the glass once, called customer service to buy a new one. They just shipped me one for free.

Looking at models, it is similar to the KCG0702CS that's $300. I don't know if it's still the same quality. They got a $200 too.

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ubermonkey t1_j6jayhi wrote

Superautos all eventually taste like ass IME.

Italy makes fine machines, but you probably have to spend more to get a solid one. I have a Rocket, which is absurd, and I wouldn't suggest it for most humans because of its size and absurdity, but it makes fantastic coffee and is objectively beautiful.

I've paired mine with a Baratza Vario+ grinder. I used a lower-end Baratza to start with (carried over from my pourover days), and it was ok but the change when I got a proper espresso grinder was pretty big.

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sunflowercompass t1_j6jkorc wrote

Yeah but back in the day when I drank a lot of coffee it was sooo convenient to just push a button and get a quick drink. Also great for the morning while I am still waking up :)

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ubermonkey t1_j6joq6l wrote

I feel that.

I came to espresso from pour over, though, so for me getting a delicious American in, realistically, less than a minute is pretty great even if I have to measure-grind-tamp-pull during that minute.

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