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Junior_Ad2955 t1_j6fdrim wrote

1000+ thread count isn’t real, and thread count is a marketing scheme, don’t buy into the hype.

Also, pretty well known that Egyptian Cotton is a scam. There have been tons of lawsuits over it being mislabeled and in fact, a vast majority of it isn’t even from Egypt. It isn’t better than Pima, Supima, or upland Cotton.

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SimpleVegetable5715 t1_j6fmyzh wrote

Yeah the really high thread counts like that are just thinner thread at that point. It rips extremely easily. 500-600 tops will feel luxurious and get that softer with age thing a lot of us love with 100% cotton.

I sold home textiles too long to pay for college 🙃

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Ok_Marsupial6435 OP t1_j6fesxp wrote

Ahh, I didn't know that. Though I bought some Egyptian cotton sheets. They are thick and silky. That is mainly what I am looking for.

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murph0969 t1_j6fti2o wrote

Also, 1000 down is stupid and not even real unless in absolute humidity free conditions. Marketing again. 800 is realistically the highest backpackers (I've back packed extensively and worked in the outdoor industry) should go, but only to increase packability and decrease weight. None of that matters on your bed. I prefer a heavier feather/down combo for something that stays on my bed.

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yippekayaye_7 t1_j6fx3my wrote

Agree, I want weight not fluff.

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se_puede t1_j6gt49s wrote

Comforter for fluff, quilt for weight. Like wearing layers for instant temp adjustment!

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minequack t1_j6hrdgw wrote

I’ve got a Faribault wool blanket for weight and thermal regulation and a Parachute mattress topper for fluff. Sweet heaven.

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lynnm59 t1_j6gtmnn wrote

My weighted blanket was a bit spendy, but was SO worth the money.

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CassandraVindicated t1_j6h20qh wrote

Yeah, I'm a lightweight camper and I love my down sleeping bag. Love me a weighted blanket at home though. Two very different kinds of sleep.

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Trague_Atreides t1_j6h1n4v wrote

900 is no good?

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murph0969 t1_j6h28dg wrote

It's either fake or simply unnecessary for these purposes. In an ultralight backpacking jacket or sleeping bag, it's good, you're just paying way too money for something that is only 2% lighter weight. Go to r/ultralight and search down. More info than you could ever imagine.

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N0SF3RATU t1_j6fnhen wrote

To add to this, true 1000 thread count sheets are heavy weight and don't breath well, meaning you'll get real sweaty and uncomfortable. I have one made by "pure down" that is excellent.

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xqxcpa t1_j6ho8zp wrote

No "down proof" fabric is going to breathe well. In order to make the fabric impenetrable to feathers, they make it unbreathable.

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N0SF3RATU t1_j6homh8 wrote

The way I think this one works is the duvet is divided into multiple sections, each section has down encased within a down proof sachet. The surrounding borders of each section are breathable while the down retains heat, resulting in a breathable duvet that doesn't leak feathers.

*edit: which now that I think of it, must be why the duvet crackles sort of loudly when you move it.

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sleepydaimyo t1_j6goi3e wrote

Okay but you will want to get a duvet cover in that material, not the duvet. The duvet you don't wash as often cuz it destroys the down fill.

I don't have a BIFL suggestion, I just buy mine and have to replace them periodically cuz they do break down even with dry cleaning - and the company I bought it from doesn't refill :/

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rafo44 t1_j6h6f0c wrote

My grandmother was making quilts and pillows when she was young. I honestly dont know what bird feathers she was using but they would exit sometimes through stiches, white and sometimes gray. She bought fabric for filling on large quantitie and did it herself. Fabric was silky shiny, thick, cold on touch and strong. That is still in house of my family and each year i visit them im trying to get it for myself and got denied. And im still "angry" at my mom that she trashed ours in '90 because she discovered she is allergic to feathers. But my god best ever to sleep!

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phdpeabody t1_j6iu5zi wrote

I haven’t bought their comforters, but I’ve been bought sheets and pillows from them for decades. Thick and silky are exactly what impressed me so much about their sheet sets. Just consistent quality and really durable sheets. The damask striped sets feel a little thinner than the solid prints.

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sadmanh t1_j6gemd4 wrote

I have regular cotton duvet cover for an Ikea duvet, it's actually quite nice.

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Paula92 t1_j6k3xtf wrote

I don’t understand the hate IKEA gets. Sure, the really cheap stuff is cheap, but still very functional. At the higher price points the furniture seems pretty sturdy, and a lot of it is easily customized.

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Paula92 t1_j6llt47 wrote

I’m good with visuals, so it’s really hard for me to relate to people struggling to assemble the furniture. 😅 Lego kits are harder.

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MolVol t1_j6l8bbw wrote

IKEA quality has increased enormously in the last dozen+ years (used to be that every item 'screamed IKEA w/ undertones of 'not expensive' - no more)

That said: beware of beds (esp) and bedding (maybe not duvets?).. this is because Ikea bed sizes from Sweden.. NOT USA Standards! So, if buy an Ikea bed, limited to aways buying Ikea sheets. Again might not be the case w/ a Duvet, but mesaure!

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Jaytalon98 t1_j6lclvq wrote

That is not correct at least as of the last 3 years. I buy my sheets from ikea and they fit my bed (not ikea) perfectly.

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sadmanh t1_j6ig7p9 wrote

yeah I've had mine for about 5yrs now, sure there's a bit of lint, but otherwise it's as good as new.

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ArcadeRivalry t1_j6hkkk5 wrote

What's the deal with Egyptian cotton anyway? Even if a duvet was actually Egyptian cotton and not just a marketing label, is it that much different to regular cotton?

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Junior_Ad2955 t1_j6hkyef wrote

It may have been at one point, decades ago, but anyone with knowledge on textiles will tell you that it hasn’t been much of anything special compared to the overall cotton market for quite some time

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TheBlueFacedLeicestr t1_j6kll49 wrote

Also, you’ll never find a duvet that 1000 full power down. You wouldn’t want or need it anyways. 650-700 is fine for a duvet. What matters is how much down is used, you need a decent amount (weight) to be comfortable and well insulated.

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k-dot77 t1_j6isbyo wrote

Sources on the cotton scam? Good grief...yet another scam to be wary of

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regaphysics t1_j6ffk2q wrote

(1) the outer cover of the duvet itself isn’t that critical because you’ll want to use a duvet cover, (2) feathered friends is the highest quality down you can get short of eiderdown.

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SP919212973 t1_j6fpkua wrote

Wow I was completely unaware of eiderdown, looks amazing. When I win the Power Ball I'll buy one!

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mr_john_steed t1_j6guckq wrote

Cuddledown sells some insanely expensive (but probably very nice) eiderdown comforters and pillows that are gathered by hand from Scandinavian bird's nests

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Jsmalley9 t1_j6gzv67 wrote

That’s about the biggest blanket flex I’ve ever imagined, shy of saying something like it was weaved by Ancient Norse textile gods.

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mr_john_steed t1_j6j3fea wrote

In the unlikely event that I ever come into serious money, I'm going to get one and tell literally every person I meet on the street about my $7,200.00 pillow

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Paula92 t1_j6k4gya wrote

I just watched a thing on rare textiles and gathering by hand is the only way to get eiderdown

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SkyPork t1_j6n1iva wrote

>Cuddledown

Sweet Jesus.

I had to check. I had to know what a super-premium comforter meant.

Level 4 (??) king size filled with the eiderdown stuff: $13,000.

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cherrylpk t1_j6ggpnu wrote

Whoa. About 5 grand. Ok now I also need to win the powerball.

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tuser1969 t1_j6gi9ab wrote

Can confirm Feathered Friends. Amazing quality and light as a feather!

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Gneissguy368 t1_j6fvqn0 wrote

Wow that is a little bit out of my price range but it looks spectacular

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Ambitious-Hornet9673 t1_j6fn5rw wrote

I live some place that is regularly -40 and I don’t use a 1000 full duvet. You absolutely do not need one of that fill.

If you’re in the USA or Canada look for a nearby Hutterite or a Amish community. I bought my duvet from them and it’s a tank.

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Jkf3344 t1_j6fq2jj wrote

1000fp is overkill for a comforter, that’s the quality of down you wear on Everest so it’s light and packs down super small. Anything 800+ will be fine, you won’t notice the difference .

Feathered Friends stuff is great and very high quality. Multiple options for weight and pricing.

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lazylittlelady t1_j6fgist wrote

I recommend Pacific Coast for down anything. Agree, thread count isn’t important as you will have it in a duvet. Focus on the duvet for organic cotton regardless of from where.

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Ambinipanini t1_j6g2xm8 wrote

I second pacific coast feather! We have a blanket from them that my husbands mother bought him when he was in high school. It sees daily use still, just over 20 years later and is just as warm as ever. About 5 years ago we purchased blankets for our kids and with proper cleaning and use of a duvet cover we plan for them to last them many years.

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dngrousgrpfruits t1_j6hx2bq wrote

When I got divorced I went all in on coziness - pacific coast featherbed, pillows, and comforter. It was amaaaaaaazing.

Eventually, I got remarried and he’s too tall to fit in my full-size bed and too warm to sleep Surrounded in down. It’s pretty much his biggest failing.

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mhchewy t1_j6fp2j1 wrote

1000 fill power on a duvet would be crazy expensive. It would be much cheaper to get a lower fill power that just has more filling. The higher power just gets you more warmth per weight. It’s important for ultralight jackets but not really for a duvet. My preference is for a heavier one.

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5spd4wd t1_j6flbg0 wrote

Keep in mind that you're going to have to clean it at some point. Think about how you will do that. Duvet covers are nice and all but sometimes spilled things can seep through them.

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Ok_Marsupial6435 OP t1_j6flgzt wrote

True, I have one that is 650 fill power and I wash and dry it all the time. Doesn’t seem to ruin anything about it.

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5spd4wd t1_j6frq57 wrote

Depending on how they're constructed the filling can shift and bunch up when laundered. If they're constructed properly that won't happen.

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C_A_N_G t1_j6gwdnz wrote

My trick is to put a few tennis balls in the dryer lol. I feel like it does help a little.

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ButterIsMyFriend t1_j6fop6q wrote

I’ve found Cuddledown to have very high quality down: really warm and also very lightweight so it feels like a cloud. I think I have 650 fill and it’s almost overkill in eastern PA, with the room temp set to 60 in the winter. I can’t imagine what 1000 fill would be like.

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sarahbellum3 t1_j6fucz7 wrote

I had a cuddledown once and it was amazing. Not sure why I don't even have it any more!

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ScaredyButtBananaRat t1_j6h8y11 wrote

I second Cuddledown, happily under my 600 FP 'summer' duvet as I type. Live in southern California and it's perfect weight for me. :)

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mainelylara t1_j6lmpc5 wrote

I Also have Cuddledown comforters! Go for the 700 fill power sateen and use a sateen duvet if you want the heft/silky feel. Also have a 900 fill power summer comforter. It’s like sleeping under a cloud— you feel the warmth but almost no weight.

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imreallybimpson t1_j6gfe61 wrote

Thread count is basically irrelevant what you want to ensure is that you get fine/long fiber cotton percale or sateen

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Gneissguy368 t1_j6fhqjk wrote

I’ve heard great things about the ll bean down comforter but haven’t pulled the trigger cause of the price point.

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bookoforder t1_j6fl91x wrote

All down eventually migrates to the edges. I bought a second one and sat out in the driveway one day and removed the down from first one and stuffed it into middle channels of new one. I then sewed extra seams to middle channels to secure extra down. To this day, a decade later, that down cover is heavy and full all over. Also, as others mentioned, the duvet cover is I portent for quality and feel.

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jordanrevenge t1_j6fw784 wrote

I have 2, a queen I got probably 10/12 years ago, love it, you can get ones meant for more mild winters or heavier winters. I got a king one when I lived in CA back in 2019 and had a king size bed. I love them both, and now being in MI they’re usually both on my bed in the winter. They definitely last, and I had one when I was much younger and the down migrated, but a lot of the newer ones(including both of mine) have stitching to prevent that or help reduce it.

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mhchewy t1_j6fnyns wrote

I pulled the trigger this Christmas. It’s great.

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Fawkestrot92 t1_j6inlqy wrote

I went with the ll bean because of the lifetime warranty but ive since heard they pulled their lifetime guarantee, do you know if thats the case for purchases from a few years ago ?

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mainelylara t1_j6ln0ht wrote

Yes, they have a year return policy now that started a few years ago.

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Gneissguy368 t1_j6kn2oy wrote

So I know with their boots if you bought them while they still had the lifetime warranty you can get them replaced once now and then that’s it. I would like to think that goes for everything in their catalog but I’m not sure

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Hipposarecool777 t1_j6gok09 wrote

Feathered Friends makes high count duvets, but be warned: they are WARM. We have an 850 Arctic baffled, and we have to crank the window open in winter. We sleep well though!

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TheBobRoberts111 t1_j6g1cjx wrote

Looks cool but man that would be a hot comforter

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brewingfairy t1_j6fvkfg wrote

I have the Sijo Home eucalyptus cotton sheets and duvet cover along with their ClimaTech duvet that is great for a temperate apartment even in winter. I love this set!

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Littlerach7 t1_j6fvkk0 wrote

This may not be on your radar, but I bought a silk-filled comforter and I loooooove it. The way it squishes is just really pleasing to me.

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RandomRunner3000 t1_j6g4reo wrote

Get a feathered friends comforter and a brooklinen duvet cover

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Straight-Tune-5894 t1_j6gbr7e wrote

Checkout The Company Store. Been around forever, but would look for country of mfr.

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lamante t1_j6gz73h wrote

Second this. I've bought two from them, a queen in 2009 and a cal king in 2021, still have them both, still love them.

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Dubya_Tag t1_j6gd4bb wrote

My wife wanted a Riley, so we got it & it’s been very pleasant. Do with that what you may.

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not_0K t1_j6h1al3 wrote

Have a Riley too agree it’s wonderful

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Dubya_Tag t1_j6gdad5 wrote

My wife wanted a Riley, so we got it & it’s been very pleasant. Do with that what you may.

Saw your other comment, looks like pictures. Can confirm. Check out Riley for sure.

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siddowncheelout t1_j6g24oz wrote

I’ve been very happy with my duvet from oldeuropeduvet.com

Lots of options, great quality

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ReenMo t1_j6ggcq5 wrote

Company Store or Cuddledown

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happily_oregonian t1_j6gu4od wrote

I am throwing in another vote for feathered friends. I believe we have the arctic baffled box 700. We have had it for about 10 years now, and it is as wonderful as the day we bought it. A lot of down is really unethical, but FF uses ethically sourced down. Their products are made in the USA. Their down is also treated to be hypoallergenic. I have terrible allergies, and FF is the only down I have been able to us as bedding. I wash my comforter a little more often than recommended because of my allergies, and it is holding up so well. I also have one of their down pillows, which I also love.

TLDR: feathered friends not only has very high quality down products but is also a company you can feel good supporting

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anon19111 t1_j6hwfcs wrote

I bought a down comforter from plumeria bay maybe 15 years ago and it held up.

Edit: it is important that the comforter have good quality down proof fabric. I'd get a nice quality duvet to protect it and make it silky.

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kookaburra_sits t1_j6hx4rj wrote

Have you slept with down before? Just want to caution you that if you haven't... Make sure you're not allergic. I bought some nice down things from Canadian down and feather and yep, I'm severely allergic to birds. Probably the mites/dust (even though the website says hypoallergenic 😭)

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nhum t1_j6hybx4 wrote

https://www.downlitebedding.com/comforters/winter-usa-origin-duck-down-comforter-oversized-dream-naturally/

Have...very warm and pretty inexpensive.

I've never seen a comforter with higher fill power than 650, and I don't think it's particularly desirable. The amount of down matters a lot more for warmth.

The thread count also is not super important since you normally put comforters inside covers.

You just want it to be warm, robust, and not too heavy(?). I think this one satisfies those criteria.

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Endor-Fins t1_j6ie6yb wrote

If you have Amish or Hutterite communities near you it may be worth it to buy from a person or community instead of a company. My Dad spent a nice chunk to buy my Mom a Hutterite down duvet and pillow in the 90’s and she’s still sleeping under it. The craftsmanship can’t be beat.

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jetandike t1_j6fn3qh wrote

Sheets and giggles has fantastic eucalyptus bedding that is insanely silky and I have had zero complaints about their duvet covers and sheets, when you start looking for those. I also love their duvet inserts too but they aren't down. They are, however sustainable and ethically sourced.

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No-Morning-144 t1_j6foxsx wrote

Look into Seventh Heaven down comforters. They use a minimum of 850 Fill down. It is washed but in treated meaning it stays true to it's fill power. Feathered friends is one of the only other US based manufactures that is at all close to this quality.

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440Dart t1_j6fzmwv wrote

Take a look at the Macy's hotel collection. We have one of their down comforters and it's AMAZING. We bought it on black friday sale a couple years back and its a winter time only blanket since its so warm. Their down pillow is awesome as well.

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PennyPie15 t1_j6gi31p wrote

I get mine from DeWoolfson Down, sale ending soon! They have several sales each year. Been buying different sizes and weights for over 20 years. Excellent quality. Found them through a high end luxury bedding store.

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namepickingishard2 t1_j6gl72t wrote

Honestly I like my Costco down a lot, I’ve had it for 6 years now and is better than all the hotel ones (I’ve been to a few luxury hotels like four seasons and ritz for work)

Just get a good cotton cover and you’ll have the comfiest bed

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pshyong t1_j6gt30b wrote

Y do u even care about thread count for this? Wouldn't u put a cover on?

Honestly bought a $60 comforter from Amazon and it's nicer than then $180 from Costco...king size ones

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pneumaticTuba t1_j6guhmw wrote

I'm just commenting to keep tabs on the answers.

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potatodaze t1_j6h0u5b wrote

I’ve been happy with my Charter Club duvet from Macy’s, solid reviews online and I’m going on 5 or so years with it and no complaints.

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Spinach_Typical t1_j6h1od1 wrote

I love our Baavet wool duvet. Heavier though.

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thefuzziestbeebutt t1_j6h20ko wrote

Following because I need a nice but affordable down duvet. Or an alt duvet that is well liked bc I bought an expensive alternative one and it was very clumpy.

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imgeo t1_j6hghvj wrote

This is a stupid request. You have no need for 1000 fill power. Nor 1000 thread count.

Please explain why and what you want. rather than stating some arbitrary specs that you won’t realistically find.

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maxxisP t1_j6hktum wrote

Skip that, go straight for the alpaca wool mix. You want want sleep under anything else after.

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footjam t1_j6hlagr wrote

You want Pima cotton, 400 thread count, featheredfriends .com

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Slipstriker9 t1_j6hyosp wrote

Down is really expensive to dry clean. Usually over £100 for a king size duvet and they often send it off to a specialist. So you go without for about 2 weeks.

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c1h9 t1_j6igst2 wrote

https://malekliving.com/ - their stuff lasts a long time, I'm not sure about your specific requirements but they make quality stuff

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UnreadFred t1_j6io1aw wrote

The thread count of your comforter doesn’t really matter if you use a duvet cover. Feathered Friends makes fantastic comforters, but they are priced accordingly.

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343fjb t1_j6ioyi2 wrote

Pure Parima makes some absolutely amazing sheets and is certified Egyptian cotton. I’m sure they sell down comforters as well. I got an awesome LL Bean comforter that is down fill and really great overall.

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chiefmoamba t1_j6iqkji wrote

Ever thought of a wool duvet? Breathable, hypoallergenic, etc. This is from a UK brand, but I'm sure you can get similar in other places too.

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5spd4wd t1_j6j7px1 wrote

A few years back I got a used washing machine free from a guy that was going to take it to the dump. It's a high end Kenmore top loader and the only thing wrong with it was that someone had tried to wash a down comforter in it. The outer casing material had come apart and wrapped itself around and under the agitator. There were feathers everywhere. It took me an hour or so to get all the feathers out. I had to cut the casing material into pieces a few at a time to get it all from under the agitator.

I haven't needed to use it or even tested it but it was just too nice of a machine to end up in the dump because of someone's (fixable) mistake. But that's what can happen if a down comforter is washed in a home machine and the outer casing isn't strong enough for that type of cleaning.

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mmpgh t1_j6jgn4x wrote

Feathered Friends. Their jackets are used on the highest peaks of the world. They are based and mostly manufactured in Seattle. 850+ fill power goose down which is basically the best you can get. Anything higher is kind of a false claim and only exist under very controlled lab environments. Gonna run you $800+

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nooch-baby t1_j6jpck8 wrote

Goose down is super cruel. The geese are treated horribly and eventually killed. Why not go for synthetic instead?

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misscrankypants t1_j6kt7jg wrote

Not sure if you are aware of the suffering that goes on so you can have the goose feathers but you might look into it. I had goose down many years ago and when I realized it I never had one again. I currently have a $50 down alternative oversized king comforter from Belk that is way fluffier than any goose down I’ve ever had. I have the most beautiful duvet cover on it and it is so warm that I sometimes get hot under it. Right now it’s 30 degrees and I was hot under it last night.

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Ok_Marsupial6435 OP t1_j6fdivm wrote

Are there any goose-down comforters that are actually like the picture and not deflated?

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Quail-a-lot t1_j6fud35 wrote

Even good ones will look pretty flat when you first get them because they've been compressed. They will need a bit of time and some good shaking to fluff back up, or you can put them in the dryer with a felt ball or a tennis ball to re-loft them too. Even when I am backpacking, first thing I like to do once I have my shelter up is to lay out my down topquilt (similar idea to a sleeping bag) so it has time to fluff up before bed and at home I store them loose.

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Living_Wonder_1544 t1_j6fl9y2 wrote

I just bought an Eddie Bauer one, it stays fully inflated. It's slime sleeping under a very warm cloud.

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