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Choosemyusername t1_j417m4t wrote
The problem with these is those old angered washers and older driers are really hard on your clothes. I moved from a place with new ones to a place with an older one and I was shocked at the difference.
If the point is to buy less stuff, upgrading your washer and drier can be a BIFL move.
mochacho t1_j418gqd wrote
Angered washers? That does sound hard on clothes.
Choosemyusername t1_j41abma wrote
Haha autocorrect…
sababa9373 t1_j4345es wrote
Autocorrect makes me shave my head sometimes
JollyBodkin OP t1_j419m9s wrote
From what I've heard, this can be curbed by running the delicate cycle. I by no means have long term experience with these though
Choosemyusername t1_j41a9v0 wrote
I just ran down to check. Mine is also on delicate. Still ruins the clothes pretty quickly compared to my last newer one.
PrestigeMaster t1_j446bvf wrote
Ok but what’s the best reply to your username you’ve gotten in the past month?
anneliese_bergeron t1_j41ju3f wrote
In addition to running a delicate cycle, if you wash your clothes in mesh, zippered laundry bags, it can help a lot to reduce wear-and-tear, too!
bennylope t1_j41mv1s wrote
The power move here is to only wash your clothes twice a year, everything in laundry bags, delicate cycle, and line dried.
RawVeganGuru t1_j41tw7n wrote
Yeah don’t even need the dryer just use it to clip a clothes line to
JeepPilot t1_j42h2pz wrote
But those springs in the clothespins will wear out if you use them too much....
RawVeganGuru t1_j42m8mt wrote
3d print a little cap for them in the rain so they don’t get rusted! Now we’ve solved it
Medium_Ad_6447 t1_j4326ib wrote
Almost had me. Can’t dry your clothes in the rain, dum dum.
Sethibro t1_j435fwy wrote
3d print an enclosure to prevent your clothes from getting wet!
raustin33 t1_j41vm47 wrote
But then it doesn't actually clean very well.
Preblegorillaman t1_j420k1v wrote
Eh, I don't recall the test engineers mentioning anything on them really ruining clothes or anything. I tend to run them on either normal or heavy soil, cold wash.
ericfromct t1_j43inif wrote
My mom has the washer. I never had any problems with clothes getting ruined, it's a great washing machine
Shot-Neck-6656 t1_j42i59l wrote
My method is to put the clothes into a soaking cycle for 30 minutes, then wash on delicate.
TrixnTim t1_j43v8db wrote
I have these after 25 years of other brands and styles. Will have for the next 30 years! I use quick cycle and gentle for almost everything. Best purchase I’ve made!
celticdove t1_j438ah1 wrote
I've recently started doing this with my newer machine. Less lint appears in the dryer's trap.
jstarlee t1_j4al5no wrote
Think wirecutters did an in depth article about them. Might wanna check it out.
collegeblunderthrowa t1_j4265j4 wrote
They're also terribly inefficient. The money you save on the purchase and longevity is eaten up by your energy and water bills.
When it comes to appliances, this is an important consideration when it comes to "buy it for life" thinking.
brandywine-farm t1_j4318rr wrote
we have plenty of water. Sorry about you West Coast drought places. Shouldn't run my life though.
TVA power from rivers. Well water.
The_Evil_Pillow t1_j439clr wrote
Hydro power is not as good as you think it is…
DraconianDebate t1_j43gbxw wrote
Are you guys going after hydro now? Next you'll be complaining about the higher death rates from solar and ecological damage to bird populations from wind.
The_Evil_Pillow t1_j44t85j wrote
Ignorance is bliss I suppose, hope you don’t enjoy salmon. Also, the risk of human death is considerable with dam mismanagement/deterioration. The bird death thing is a fat joke by the way.
DraconianDebate t1_j45acga wrote
I enjoy a coastline that isnt flooded over some fucking salmon, yes.
brandywine-farm t1_j449258 wrote
Rather have electrical power from coal? No..that was converted to gas...wait. now gas is bad so..convert to ?? Solar is worse than hydro. Wave power is destructive to sea life. Wind turbines are killing birds and break down all the time. Pick your poison. I'm ok with my hydro..and a few solar panels and my well water. People shouldn't live in the desert and expect water to be delivered to them, and when it's short, expect everyone else to change their lifestyle and equipment because of their self-perpetuated situation. To each his own.
The_Evil_Pillow t1_j44p0bi wrote
There’s a reason they’re removing dams. The energy is many times unnecessary and ecosystems especially salmon and other freshwater aquatics are essentially destroyed. Solar and wind is no where near as bad lmao. Provide a source before you spout complete bs like that. I’m providing some context for you since you seem pretty gung-ho on hydro which on paper seems really great.
https://www.earthlawcenter.org/blog-entries/2017/12/dams-climate-change-bad-news
brandywine-farm t1_j46ci2v wrote
Energy is not needed?? LOL. The grid can't keep up as it is.....
There were rolling blackouts during this freeze because TVA couldn't produce enough electricity and they couldn't "bring it in" from anywhere else.
Please.
"earthlawcenter" sounds completely unbiased. :/
The dams are working until we get fusion or people stop being afraid of nuclear....there are no other choices unless we want to return to the stone age, but *gasp* that's burning wood.
The_Evil_Pillow t1_j49q4mp wrote
Unsourced nonsense.
CosmicRambo t1_j4194nx wrote
Yep, I have similar ones and they tear all my jeans at the crotch.
squishy__squids t1_j42jbup wrote
It's the chafing, not the washer. I'm sorry you had to hear it like this. 😔🫡
CosmicRambo t1_j42k32o wrote
I'm not fat and no it's not when I cut the washing on the jeans it took way longer to appear. There's so much pulling on the machines that it messes pants.
squishy__squids t1_j42kpx7 wrote
Yeah I was just making a joke (but unless you have a thigh gap, which is rare and weird, you have chafing). It's best to wash jeans as little as possible; the washing machine exaggerates any spots of wear and tear. Most dirty spots can be washed out by hand and left to dry, a washing machine is only necessary when the whole garment has been thoroughly soiled
brandywine-farm t1_j430wj9 wrote
Hard on WalMart thin Junk clothes maybe. We have no issues.
Choosemyusername t1_j4330ry wrote
Harder on the very same clothes I was washing in the old washer. Some junk, some not.
wd668 t1_j42ey4q wrote
>old angered washers
I hereby charge that this old angered washer did feloniously and without just cause munch on premium dress shirts until they were deprived of all form and appearance.
smurfe t1_j43k1lh wrote
I have never noticed any difference in wear to clothes using the old Speed Queen over a modern-day front loader other than the front loader lasted about five years.
Choosemyusername t1_j442quz wrote
Could have just been the ones I was/am using. That has just been my experience.
Stadank0 t1_j44ohhu wrote
The old washers actually used water to clean clothes instead of mold and friction like the front loaders.
Choosemyusername t1_j465i62 wrote
Yes they used a lot more water, energy, and soap, and friction, which is why they were so hard on the pocketbook and clothes.
Dustin_peterz t1_j3zuhyl wrote
I'd been using the same speed queen dryer and washer in an apartment I just moved out of. I'd lived there for 20 YEARS. The house I just moved into had speed queen washer and dryers. The third day the dryer broke and I fixed it my self with YouTube. I will never buy another brand of washer/dryer.
LividLager t1_j40u8zb wrote
Unfortunately the quality of the newer models isn't up to their previous standards.
shawn-fff t1_j40z3qj wrote
So how do I know which one to get?
LividLager t1_j40zjkb wrote
Reviews. I don't think anything being sold now is worth the money, but you can look for used models.
shawn-fff t1_j40zzmw wrote
I mean, is there a version of the speed queens that are better. I’m reading your comment as saying that new speed queens are not what older ones are. I’m happy to get an older one, there are a few on my local marketplace and my 15 year old LG is out again after me replacing the heating element last year, so I’m considering getting a pair of used speed queens.
NousDefions81 t1_j415isv wrote
The version in the photo is the one you want.
The new Maytag Commercial stuff is comparable in quality to the old Speed Queens.
frunch t1_j418sn8 wrote
Which Maytags are you referring to? Do you have any model numbers? I'm frequently trying to help people decide on new washers/dryers and the more good options, the better. I've seen my share of newer Maytags getting kicked to the curb in 5-8 years (busted transmissions/gearboxes, usually).
Would something like the MVWP575GW fit the bill?
jammaslide t1_j41i047 wrote
FYI, Consumer Reports gave one model of Maytag Commercial units a dismal rating. May not be indicative of other models.
gvsteve t1_j42u6lt wrote
Consumer Reports weighs heavily on features and initial quality but it seems to me their ratings care not at all about longevity.
NousDefions81 t1_j428ecz wrote
They are not water efficient at ALL, which Consumer Reports weighs very heavily.
However, most of the energy from washing clothes comes from hot water, but modern good detergents are designed to clean with cold water. I run nothing but a cold water (or cool, in the winter, via the Maytag) wash and have no issues with stains whatsoever (I have three small children).
NousDefions81 t1_j42829h wrote
>MVWP575GW
That is the Maytag washer I have, and I really, really like it. I've only had it 5 years (I've had my Speed Queen dryer for 8) but it works like the day I bought it.
uEpYN2vYZPCRpH3vjC3r t1_j416wsb wrote
I've had 2 to 4 Speed Queen washer / gas dryer sets running 4 loads a day for up to 20 years. Including 2 of the newer design. Newer washers are slower, more bothersome safety interlocks, more electronic jazz.
I do prefer the old washer design. I think the new ones are still worth it, but might look for a used older unit next time
SimpleVegetable5715 t1_j41il0h wrote
Don't they make a commercial and a residential line now? I'm assuming the commercial ones would be higher quality. I've even seen retired laundromat ones for sale with the coin dispensers still attached.
CamelHairy t1_j42b9kh wrote
I talked with the factory when I purchased mine, they have always made commercial and homeowners with the only difference is the commercial has a coin box. Both of ours are going on 10 years
SimpleVegetable5715 t1_j43u5q3 wrote
Cool, that's good to know!
Preblegorillaman t1_j420t3v wrote
Get the one on their website with the lower spin cycle RPM. The newer models spin a bit faster with the direct drive (one of the positives of direct drive) but the old bulletproof style with the transmissions are still made.
PizzaParrot t1_j418qax wrote
They changed that though right? Iirc, a few years of models suck but they course corrected
LatchedNipple t1_j41dht5 wrote
No, there was a government change that was mandated for water conservation.
It's pretty well known and Speed Queen even talks about it. The trick is to take it from Normal and set to Perm Press.
That's the old water level and the way it worked before the mandate.
PizzaParrot t1_j41e444 wrote
Wasn't that addressed with their 2019 revision after all the bad press they got for the initial change?
LatchedNipple t1_j41ebcd wrote
I bought my set last year and it was all over the internet to change to Perm Press. You may be right, but I didn't read where they had fixed the issue.
PizzaParrot t1_j41et42 wrote
It mentions it on Wikipedia and gives this as an example - https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/speed-queen-introduces-new-top-load-washer-model-with-classic-design-1028253901
100% not arguing because I'm not sure either 😂
LatchedNipple t1_j41f2hn wrote
No, let this be our thing. We hunt each other down on the internet and talk about Speed Queen wash cycles.
PizzaParrot t1_j41gimv wrote
Hahahaha! Fuck yes.
It's hard to get tone right on the internet and wanted to make sure you knew I wasn't being a prick but was actually curious if what I remembered was even right.
Firstnamecody t1_j44v5v1 wrote
If it's any consolation, my drunk ass thoroughly enjoyed this conversation.
rosinall t1_j42m3lk wrote
Not quite. They met the government standard to sell in the US and added a "deep fill" option button that basically overrode it. I can't find anything to support what you said about the perm press override, this NYT article is like the many, many others I read supporting this point and not touching on yours.
LatchedNipple t1_j42n5wn wrote
We shared our results with Speed Queen, and the representatives were not surprised. McDonald even told us that the company coaches dealers to tell customers not to use the Normal Eco cycle and to use the Permanent Press or Heavy Duty cycle instead.
That's in the article you quote.
rosinall t1_j44nukt wrote
Re-reading my comment I apologize; I didn't have an agenda but that reads as an argument from a dickhead.
Plus, you were right, dammit.
LividLager t1_j41cgvf wrote
I don't believe so. The reviews on the current models are disappointing, and there's reddit posts on those models complaining about the company. Was recommending the brand to a coworker a month ago, when I briefly looked into them for it, once I saw the model I've had for 6 years was discontinued.
cybercuzco t1_j42959u wrote
I bought a pair in 2018 and have had no issues
LividLager t1_j42fg6v wrote
Great. Doesn't mean that the complaints aren't valid, since they made major changes to the lineup in 2019-2020
TrixnTim t1_j43vs8s wrote
I disagree. The guy who sold me mine has been working in appliances sales for over 30 years. He knew I wanted American made, simple, for life. He went through stats and consumer reports details with me for over an hour. Guy was brilliant.
LividLager t1_j43yu3u wrote
TrixnTim t1_j449og9 wrote
Touché
LividLager t1_j44lc94 wrote
I'm glad yours is working well, and it does seem like they've improved within the last few years, but I'm glad I got mine in 2016 :)
TrixnTim t1_j44okau wrote
One thing the salesman taught me was the drum i side used to be made of steel. That changed due to costs, etc. and now parts are fiberglass, etc. He seemed to imply that the good quality went away with steel parts.
Apollo_O t1_j4251gr wrote
My parents got married in 1977. They bought a Maytag washer and dryer. They finally replaced them because of broken parts that couldn't be procured in 2019 and 2022. They only had minor repairs 3-4 times on each machine over the entire life.
They replaced them with SpeedQueens.
Dustin_peterz t1_j42t6s1 wrote
I still have my grandmother's Maytag sitting in a basement somewhere lol still works
mcfarmer72 t1_j3znfob wrote
Those are the good ones. Why a new drum ?
JollyBodkin OP t1_j3zoe0c wrote
The repairman found a small amount of rust when replacing a spring inside the machine, and replaced the whole drum via warranty
bambeenz t1_j40jbrj wrote
Holy shit that thing still has a warranty😂
philnotfil t1_j41bc75 wrote
Nice!
TrixnTim t1_j43w16z wrote
Mine cane with a 10 year warranty. Parts and labor.
Stewartsw1 t1_j3zo1qx wrote
Steal
thedanishcoffeenerd t1_j4023c3 wrote
For the dryer I'd highly recommend everyone to always buy a heat pump dryer. They use so much less power that the money saved on electricity far outweighs the extra initial cost. A heat pump dryer only uses around 300-500W compare to 2000W for a traditional dryer. That is quickly a lot of money saved if you run it often. Also it's better for the environment.
b1tchlasagna t1_j40ntfv wrote
This.
I can understand the idea of "buy it for life" but the running costs of such an old appliance are insane
I recently bought this
There are cheaper alternatives out there made, BUT I bought that because '
It's A+++-10%. Stupidly no country within the EEA has downgraded the grading of heat pump tumble dryers. If they downgraded it, an A+++-10% EPC would maybe be EPC C rated on the new scale
It's also got a reversing drum which helps with drying times, and less ironing required (therefore less electricity and less time)
It's also a Miele. LG and Samsung do the same thing for about half the price but I don't fancy how unreliable those things are.
Here's my thread on it too
Intrepid00 t1_j41ev72 wrote
> I can understand the idea of “buy it for life” but the running costs of such an old appliance are insane
Oh god yes, even if my refrigerator only lasts 10-15 years your buy it for life fridge from the 70s is using so much energy it would have bought 2 of my refrigerators in that time. Some of the “they don’t last as long” is strictly because of having to use more energy efficient designs and materials that just isn’t as strong as thick heavy steel and cast iron. Some is just bad design or trying to get too fancy like French door fridges with a door ice dispenser.
There are things worth it for buy it for life but refrigerators, old as hell heat pumps, washer and dryer, and dishwashers become very debatable if they are worth it when looking at energy costs and how well they actually work.
Now an expensive pair of jeans that last forever is a no debate it’s worth the cost.
teun95 t1_j41kgw4 wrote
I calculated it in another comment. The energy usage of this laundy machine is literally twice as high as a current A label laundry machine. Water usage is even more than twice as high.
Intrepid00 t1_j41kpjk wrote
Not shocked. I’m sure my washer dryer (that have 10 year warranty on the motors) using them is paid for twice with that energy and water costs.
b1tchlasagna t1_j41l7kj wrote
My dishwasher is "D rated" on the new EPC scale. It would have been A+++ rated on the old one
I don't truly care because it cost me £200, and I use it maybe once a week. If that lasts me, that's great. If it doesn't, no biggy because my own BIFL habit is to... not having had a dish washer most of my life. If it fails in five years time it's just another £200 or so
The A rated ones are ridiculously expensive for little energy efficiency gain
Intrepid00 t1_j41srtk wrote
I hear you but those little energy efficiency gains and better cleaning jobs really start to add up with families doing daily or more runs.
b1tchlasagna t1_j41uinx wrote
Oh for sure. I mentioned my own requirements because I couldn't set why I'd need to spend a few hundred extra to save minus still a few hundred
That's the main reason that stops me from buying a Miele solar save dish washer. Like yes it uses so much less, and yes, it makes better use of my solar panels but also its a lot more expensive for what's realistically little gain (for me)
My D rated dishwasher uses 0.85 kWh per cycle. An A rated one uses 0.54 kWh per cycle. If you use it every single day, you're looking at a saving of 113.15 kWh in a year. In the UK, assuming April 2023 pricing that's a saving of £61.11 a year
When electricity was 15p/kWh, then you'd have to use your dishwasher multiple times a day for it to be cheaper. Assuming you're using it once a day, that's a saving of a mere £17 a year. Assuming also that it lasts ten years, I'd look to have spent £200 extra, max.
But again that is if I was using it once a day, which I'm not.
UnfitRadish t1_j40on9b wrote
Now what if you have a gas dryer? How do they compare with costs? Our gas is relatively cheap compared to our electric.
annoyingdoorbell t1_j413ady wrote
I'm the same. If I were to switch to all electric, my costs would increase, most likely be a significant amount.
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WeepToWaterTheTrees t1_j42htwl wrote
/s?
snorlackx t1_j40fzey wrote
good luck getting it repaired though. very few know how to work on them and those that do will charge a lot
thedanishcoffeenerd t1_j40jwve wrote
They work like a refrigerator and has very few moving parts that can break down. Like how often does for fridge jut die? It's not too complicated for a technician to deal with, but I also live in a country where heat pumps are common for hole house heating so we have technicians available for heat pumps. Also always buy from a well know Company that also has good repair service. I don't know any specific brands because it'll vary a lot from country to country how the service is.
snorlackx t1_j42t04j wrote
I repair appliances for a living and no one in our company works on them. also went out to one by accident and customer said we were the 8th company they called trying to get it repaired. theres simply not enough of them in my market to get trained on them. also cant justify spending 100+ hours of training for a machine you will run into once or twice a year.
thedanishcoffeenerd t1_j42w73j wrote
Funny how different the markets can be because here you'll be hard pressed to find one that is not a heat pump dryer.
jankyj t1_j40lewq wrote
I live in the Netherlands. Vented dryers are non-existent. All models are either heat pump or condensing. For my region, reparability is not an issue, but indeed always wise to check what is the case in your market to make an educated decision about reparability.
teun95 t1_j40y2bq wrote
Huh, I didn't notice this but you're right. Our last dryer was a vented dryer, but that was a pretty old one. I just checked online and they're barely sold anymore. Just a few irrelevant brands.
yellowsweater1414 t1_j3zyy5f wrote
I paid more than that to repair my not-speedqueen dryer this week.
SerpentDrago t1_j40cnix wrote
Electric Dryer's Are extremely easy to fix. Diy with YouTube
Intrepid00 t1_j41fde3 wrote
Unless it gets too fancy but usually it’s just a thermostat that needs to be replaced.
SirPenisaurusRex t1_j4213q8 wrote
And even in some cases where it does get fancy. If anything fails on the main control board of a washer or dryer, the only "answer" is typically a $250-$500 board replacement. I just got done replacing the heating element relay on my driver's board for the high high cost of... 10 dollars. This does require soldering to remove the old relay and install the new one, but close to everything is fixable.
Intrepid00 t1_j421b77 wrote
I think it depends on who the board is from and what is fancy on it. $110 is my board replacement cost. Boards don’t usually fail quickly anyway unless they are just crap from the start.
JeepPilot t1_j42henn wrote
Either that or the thermal fuse, which will blow if someone tries to run several loads without cleaning the lint trap.
WeepToWaterTheTrees t1_j42fx9i wrote
We fixed the ignition in my gas dryer ourselves. Honestly, dryers are just very easy to fix if their problem isn’t computer related.
SerpentDrago t1_j42k49o wrote
Yeah gas and electric Dryer's that don't have crazy digital screens Are all easy to work on. I would say 80% of the issues you would run into are fixed for less than $100 in an hour of your time. Maybe another hour? Looking up the issues and ordering the parts. Most of the time there's even a local repair shop that has the parts.
I always say get a nice Fancy efficient front loader washer. Then get a bog standard big ass dryer with auto sense and without digital screens. A dryer unless it's a heat pump. One can't really be efficient. Besides, the ability to turn itself off when it detects the clothes are dry. It gets its efficiency by your washer. Ringing out all the water to where it doesn't have to do much work. So spend the money on the washer. I personally prefer LG washers with direct drives as they are actually pretty easy to work on and generally reliable and come with a 10-year warranty on the drive
DejaBOOM t1_j40fl23 wrote
Speed Queen is made in my hometown, Ripon, WI. They make some of the best washers and dryers money can buy. You got really lucky! Congrats!! 🫶👏
MajesticProperty725 t1_j3zsbub wrote
Wow ! Nice, how’d you score this ?
JollyBodkin OP t1_j3zviis wrote
Facebook Marketplace!
HugsNotDrugs_ t1_j3zxp7q wrote
Wow!
AhoyLeakyPirate t1_j3zuqos wrote
Infinite laundry!
reticentrebel t1_j3zpwib wrote
That's the set we have had for over a decade, still running strong.
PunIntended1234 t1_j3zu5tj wrote
You'll find the snake hiding in there later though! LMAO! That's why it was so cheap!
Intrepid-Love3829 t1_j404siy wrote
I love how square they aree
gvsteve t1_j42uw2z wrote
Why do appliances need to be aerodynamic, anyway?
Intrepid-Love3829 t1_j4ezbkf wrote
Bro. Idfk. I guess to look ✨modern✨
teun95 t1_j41d8yu wrote
These old Speed Queen washing machines should not be used. I will explain.
I often see people mention here that it is more environmentally friendly to keep using these Speed Queen laundry machines and dryers than to purchase a more efficient new model. For many products this is true. But these devices here are EXTREMELY ineffecient compared to an energy efficient model.
A Speed Queen AWN432 model uses 0.96 kWh per cycle^(1) while a Miele with the new A label uses 0.493kWh^(2) per cycle. Additionally, the Speed Queen uses more than twice (!)^(1 2) as much water. Taking the CO2 emissions of water purification and wastewater processing, the Miele only produces 49% of what the Speed Queen produces. This adds up to more than half a tonne more CO2 emissions over 10 years of use. See my spreadsheet ^(6).
Of course we have to look at manufacturing and transport too, but this barely changes the picture. A washing machine uses so much energy that the production and disposal are hardly significant compared to the energy consumption during its use^(3). This paper mentions that the usage of a washing machine accounts for around 80% of its CO2 emissions^(4).
Laundry represents 18% of all emissions in the US and 3% of national Co2 emissions^(5), so it's worth paying attention to this!
1: https://images.webfronts.com/cache/frysbageflai.pdf.
I picked this particular washing machine for comparison because it's from a brand that lasts long and does up to 9kg per load. There are slightly more efficient washing machines, but picking a less brand would not be a fair comparison.
2: https://eprel.ec.europa.eu/screen/product/washingmachines2019/295205
3: https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Fig-2-Life-Cycle-Assessment-of-a-washing-machine_fig2_235679049
4: (table on page 5, in Japanese) https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/jie1992/75/12/75_12_1050/_pdf
6: The 220 washing cycles per year is based on the EU average. For families it's likely more.
JollyBodkin OP t1_j41kkd9 wrote
I hear you, but $1500 for a new Miele washing machine isn't in my budget unfortunately
teun95 t1_j41oj3n wrote
You don't have to. There are decent brands that produce even more energy efficient machines.
If you simply want to find an energy efficient laundry machine that's available where you live I'd just check the webshop that people tend to use for this and short on energy efficiency. I guarantee that some cheap and decent washing machines will pop up.
If you want to find the most energy efficient laundry machines available, you can use the product database of the European Commission for this. It contains all products that are required to have an energy efficiency label. See their page for washing machines and sort on energy efficiency. Among the top results are Electrolux, AEG, Hoover and Candy. I'm not an expert on this, but I believe some of these brands are known to be decent and affordable.
OhJohnO t1_j41yns8 wrote
Personally, even though I understand that the efficiency isn’t the same as newer machines, I find that reliability to price is unbeatable. Knowing that for the next 20 years, this thing will be a tank, and I won’t have to mess with it, (and when I do, repairs will be simple and affordable) beats out the day to day efficiency issues. Efficiency isn’t necessarily the primary concern for all consumers.
daymanmustache t1_j4q1dqg wrote
For reliability to price you’d have to consider the extra cost of electricity and water over that 20 year period. Even if you get 20 trouble free years, I think you will be paying a pretty substantial premium and using more resources.
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SweetAlyssumm t1_j3zqw7y wrote
I am so jealous. I just ordered the dryer for several million dollars. Have had the washer five years, love it.
JordanDesu13 t1_j3zxb6s wrote
My speed queen dryer is older than me lol
Crabuki t1_j40g0m5 wrote
22g/load vs a HE machine using 7g/load could, in theory, become a pain point in the future. Depends on where you live, obvs.
Hungrypancake t1_j41l00p wrote
Speed Queen was my nickname in high school
PachinkoGear t1_j423hbn wrote
How are you going to control it without Bluetooth though??
lanopticx t1_j43lcgw wrote
Wow you must be really strong picking up both a washer and dryer! And to make $175 doing it, nice job!
gap97216 t1_j3zui2f wrote
I’m very envious!
notahoppybeerfan t1_j40vaxp wrote
My wife and I joke our kids will fight the most over our Speedqueen’s when we’re gone.
OhJohnO t1_j41xcbu wrote
I have that exact set. It’s fantastic.
PRO TIP: if you want to be able to open the washer and keep it running, there’s a switch under the back right that can be held down with a clothespin or piece of foam. Here’s a video of it.
mudokin t1_j424mvj wrote
How is the energy and water efficiancy on these``?
jankyj t1_j455isx wrote
Really really bad.
nirad t1_j3zx4gb wrote
I wish these fit in my washer dryer closet
verywidebutthole t1_j4035m3 wrote
Are you sure they don't? I have a shallow closet and it was a pain finding a dryer that fit. The washer was easy. These would have fit but we won't stay here too long so we don't care about the longevity much vs what we bought at half the price.
Opesneakpastya t1_j400esn wrote
These seem to be the only decent, life long appliance purchase now!
pleasework_forgard t1_j40dq3r wrote
I have that exact set. Had it for 11 years now.
small_e_900 t1_j40tccj wrote
We bought a new washer and dryer last year. After showing us a bunch of machines, I asked the sales person what the difference was between some brand of machine and a Speed Queen. He said that all the machines in the store are ten year machines except the Speed Queen machines. The Speed Queen machines are twenty-five year machines. We went with the Speed Queen.
nicosmom61 t1_j410vaw wrote
I can say this for sure . I will never have another samsung anything in my house their w/d are crap . I will go with maytag or speed queen . My last set before the samsung was maytag and they were wonderful , real work horses but these samsung what crap they are !!! Never again . Glad im moving in 3 yrs to my retirement home and there will be no sam sung anything in my home every again .
small_e_900 t1_j4129ig wrote
My daughter is very handy. Three times in the last two years she called me to walk her through the repair of her Samsung dryer. Once the drive belt flipped. Once the heating element failed. Last week the belt tensioner failed. Fortunately she is able to do the repairs or she would have had to pay at least as much in repairs as the machine cost.
She too said that she'll never buy anything Samsung again...well, except, maybe their phones. They're boss.
nicosmom61 t1_j419yp9 wrote
I have heard so many people hating on them it is not even funny . My oldest brother calls them chinese junkets LOL .
Soleniae t1_j41f6y1 wrote
Korean*
nicosmom61 t1_j41u5v6 wrote
LOL okay thank you .
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maxwell8998 t1_j40wvnb wrote
That is a steal!
TheCodesterr t1_j40xs4j wrote
I’ve heard these last forever.
DisgustingApple t1_j40y2u7 wrote
How many people have got stuck in it
Napkin_whore t1_j40zm6t wrote
Ahh the SpeedQueen.
The last relevant item on this sub, cuz everything is is made the break these days m.
LexusBrian400 t1_j419j64 wrote
12 year appliance tech here -
Yes. This is the way.
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Vast-Classroom1967 t1_j41jwc4 wrote
Nice.
chillinn_at_work t1_j41z38t wrote
adore my speedqueens. It's only been 4 years but the only issues we've had with them were user error. They'll outlive me for sure.
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curtludwig t1_j42imm1 wrote
Nice! I looked at a set brand new last month for $2600...
cherlin t1_j42n6af wrote
That's an insane deal, last year we bought a house and I think it was about $2400 our tc5/dc5 plus a multi month wait :/
ManyInitials t1_j42noqk wrote
Lucky Ducky!
brandywine-farm t1_j430t79 wrote
WOW NICE!
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Dizzy_Ad_7622 t1_j4326k2 wrote
Now available at local Dollar Trees; =)
starsandjars t1_j433i1h wrote
That washer is the best washer. My mom, my dad, and my grandma have the same one.
xxMrAdamsxx t1_j438ncy wrote
Damn that is a serious find. Those units run forever. I’ve never come across one for less than $1k let alone a set for under $200. Great job.
Alternative_Arm_2583 t1_j43ez66 wrote
Now you should go buy a lottery ticket!
JohnnyGoldwink t1_j43h99n wrote
Damn… where’d ya find that STEAL of a deal. Congrats!
stonksrocks t1_j43ixjh wrote
I love speed queen!!!!!!
binkkit t1_j43jtdc wrote
I have that washer. It's fantastic. You got a steal!
Marshmallow_64 t1_j43jtui wrote
I have that same set, been going strong 5 years now.
softawre t1_j43nlfw wrote
What a deal.
Have a set of speed queena. though, I spent about 15x that
cairob3 t1_j43q00f wrote
Good for you!
digihippie t1_j446nck wrote
What a steal
cylonlover t1_j45camz wrote
It's funny how american appliances always have the controls on the top and back, while in Europe they're on the front. I wonder what the rest of the world have. I think it's pretty much only an american thing, but I have only ever been in Europe and Asia, so don't know really.
In Europe we'd often have the dryer on top of the washer to save floor space. That will require front panel controls.
Great looking set, though. May it last a generation more.
0987654321585 t1_j47qza3 wrote
These are the best damn washers and dryers you can get, my grandmother has had this set for 40 years and the only problem she ever had was that recently the dryers start button fell off
thebritishhippie t1_j5if2za wrote
We've had that washer for almost 20 years at this point lol. weird seeing this in the wild.
Traditional_Hunt_764 t1_j643wxh wrote
I think that's the best deal I've seen or heard of🎉
jankyj t1_j3zoabe wrote
Enjoy putting a ton of unnecessary wear on your clothes while wasting water and energy.
JollyBodkin OP t1_j3zoey6 wrote
Thank you, I will!
muddytodd t1_j3zuox1 wrote
You know what wastes even more? Replacing a machine every 5-10 years. These models could last a lifetime and have far greater repairability than energy efficient models.
b1tchlasagna t1_j40nvce wrote
Not really, when most emissions are made during operational use
jankyj t1_j40adph wrote
My Miele is on year 15 and is gentle on my clothes and efficient.
say_chicha t1_j40cbhr wrote
How much did that cost?
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jankyj t1_j40kz9i wrote
I live in Europe (Netherlands). A Miele machine costs around 20% more than other quality brands (Bosch, Siemens, AEG, etc.), and lasts on average 20 years – 50% longer on average than other brands. That was my driving factor when I chose to buy a Miele,
b1tchlasagna t1_j40o8x9 wrote
This. The rationale for buying Miele here is different to Americans. You can sometimes get heavy discounts too. I did on a washing machine but not so on a tumble dryer
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b1tchlasagna t1_j43kf62 wrote
Perhaps not though a lot of BIFL stuff costs a lot unfortunately.
I got my washing machine for a steal. FWIW, I also got my tumble dryer on a 0% deal for four months
raustin33 t1_j41vyua wrote
This is Buy it for Life. BIFL items are usually expensive.
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[deleted] t1_j3zou2g wrote
It's gonna take a while for that energy to offset the cost savings. It's fine.
Also agitators clean objectively and demonstrably fine.
bookerTmandela t1_j407jak wrote
Man people are downvoting you hard, but you’re speaking the truth. Plus they essentially use a loophole to get around Department of Energy’s efficiency regulations.
People love them because they’re built like tanks and are just willing to overlook everything else about them.
Lindvaettr t1_j41a5jq wrote
BuyItForLife discovers commercial appliances are more durable than consumer ones, but doesn't check the downsides.
fruitpiesandcoffee t1_j3zpj8i wrote
Vs what? Hand wash?
SirQuackTheDuck t1_j415lwl wrote
I do recon front-loading washers use less water and since the motion (rolling) is less pulling on the clothing, it's less likely to cause tears
Lindvaettr t1_j41aj99 wrote
SpeedQueens are commercial washers and dryers, so are intended to do a passable job for a very long time, with few other considerations.
Their washers and dryers, from what I've read in several articles that I've read because I keep seeing these l on this sub, not only use a lot more energy than consumer washers and dryers, but are also a lot harder on clothes.
They're laundromat machines, and that's the quality of wash you'll get.
0ld_Ben_Kenobi t1_j3zppt9 wrote
Uh what
itaniumonline t1_j3zpeo9 wrote
We got a set of those. Im going to include them in the will. Lol