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Intrepid00 t1_j41ev72 wrote

Reply to comment by b1tchlasagna in Just picked up this SpeedQueen dryer/washer set for $175 - both work great, and the washer has a new drum! by JollyBodkin

> I can understand the idea of “buy it for life” but the running costs of such an old appliance are insane

Oh god yes, even if my refrigerator only lasts 10-15 years your buy it for life fridge from the 70s is using so much energy it would have bought 2 of my refrigerators in that time. Some of the “they don’t last as long” is strictly because of having to use more energy efficient designs and materials that just isn’t as strong as thick heavy steel and cast iron. Some is just bad design or trying to get too fancy like French door fridges with a door ice dispenser.

There are things worth it for buy it for life but refrigerators, old as hell heat pumps, washer and dryer, and dishwashers become very debatable if they are worth it when looking at energy costs and how well they actually work.

Now an expensive pair of jeans that last forever is a no debate it’s worth the cost.

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teun95 t1_j41kgw4 wrote

I calculated it in another comment. The energy usage of this laundy machine is literally twice as high as a current A label laundry machine. Water usage is even more than twice as high.

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Intrepid00 t1_j41kpjk wrote

Not shocked. I’m sure my washer dryer (that have 10 year warranty on the motors) using them is paid for twice with that energy and water costs.

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b1tchlasagna t1_j41l7kj wrote

My dishwasher is "D rated" on the new EPC scale. It would have been A+++ rated on the old one

I don't truly care because it cost me £200, and I use it maybe once a week. If that lasts me, that's great. If it doesn't, no biggy because my own BIFL habit is to... not having had a dish washer most of my life. If it fails in five years time it's just another £200 or so

The A rated ones are ridiculously expensive for little energy efficiency gain

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Intrepid00 t1_j41srtk wrote

I hear you but those little energy efficiency gains and better cleaning jobs really start to add up with families doing daily or more runs.

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b1tchlasagna t1_j41uinx wrote

Oh for sure. I mentioned my own requirements because I couldn't set why I'd need to spend a few hundred extra to save minus still a few hundred

That's the main reason that stops me from buying a Miele solar save dish washer. Like yes it uses so much less, and yes, it makes better use of my solar panels but also its a lot more expensive for what's realistically little gain (for me)

My D rated dishwasher uses 0.85 kWh per cycle. An A rated one uses 0.54 kWh per cycle. If you use it every single day, you're looking at a saving of 113.15 kWh in a year. In the UK, assuming April 2023 pricing that's a saving of £61.11 a year

When electricity was 15p/kWh, then you'd have to use your dishwasher multiple times a day for it to be cheaper. Assuming you're using it once a day, that's a saving of a mere £17 a year. Assuming also that it lasts ten years, I'd look to have spent £200 extra, max.

But again that is if I was using it once a day, which I'm not.

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