Submitted by br_shadow t3_11c4ghv in BuyItForLife
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winterbird t1_ja2gas8 wrote
Exactly, this is the issue. My last phone had absolutely nothing wrong with it. Except that there came a point that there were no further updates for it, and apps were pulling themselves from its last point of update. It became a brick by smartphone standards. I could call, text, and use the browser. But no other apps. When I tried to open them I'd get a message my phone isn't supported anymore. It had been 5-6 years since the phone was released at that point. I take care of my stuff, it still looked new and nothing was broken on it.
RickestRickSea137 t1_ja2ta8w wrote
Same here.. 5 yo Samsung Android phone, they decided to stop OS updates for it right around the time 2 bad CVE's hit the news.
Perfectly functional, nothing broken or even scratched phone rendered useless.
Fuck you Samsung, never again.
ryanfromtheyard t1_ja2vdry wrote
I am just starting to look at this issue, who is better? Seems like the pixel phones have a longer OS support timeliness but not great..? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Pixel
ToddRossDIY t1_ja3ejiq wrote
Apple is seriously the only option I think at this point. After my last flagship android phone made by Motorola (owned by Google at the time) stopped getting security updates after barely 2 years, I got an iPhone and never looked back. I was adamantly against apple products for the decade prior that I’ve owned a smartphone, but they’re the only ones taking software updates seriously
norabutfitter t1_ja3ipvs wrote
My iphone 8 that was my first ever smartphone still has support
fauxfilosopher t1_ja36h5v wrote
Apple seems to be the best in this regard
RickestRickSea137 t1_ja31sid wrote
jeez that's not very long life :/
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FBlack t1_ja2c43v wrote
Not necessarily but I see your point, we've reached a point with phones that software is far more fragile than hardware long term.
e_hyde t1_ja2kbb1 wrote
LineageOS would like to have a word
sponge_welder t1_ja51n1l wrote
I was about to say, it's Android, someone will definitely be making an OS for it for a long time even if it's not the OEM
janeuner t1_ja369wq wrote
When you buy a cell phone, you are better off thinking about it as a fixed term support contact, and not as a hardware purchase. One version of the hardware costs less than two Android major version updates and thirty security updates.
knoegel t1_ja1kncn wrote
It has a shit cpu that won't be good for 1 year.
They need to make a repairable flagship device.
br_shadow OP t1_ja23nt5 wrote
It's a good start though, it may lead to flagship phones being repairable in the future
the_darkener t1_ja1qa7y wrote
For most people it will be just fine.
knoegel t1_ja1sgdj wrote
Yeah but progress is made by flagships.
the_darkener t1_ja1vcvo wrote
This is a step in the right direction and I think its going to push us forward. Flagship may not catch up right away. Think of the hybrid/electric car history.
zBarba t1_ja2feta wrote
Fairphone totally beats this on repairability and software updates
LikesTheTunaHere t1_ja31zwb wrote
but can you use a fairphone as a hammer, blackjack, tire wedge, speed bump, or a brick?
zBarba t1_ja39y1y wrote
i wouldn't advise that, but it is kinda heavy and does feel robust.
For sure i don't treat it kindly, falls very frequently
just_here_for_SFW t1_ja87iee wrote
Mine has fallen on the road while riding a bike. Screen didn't crack. 10/10 would recommend.
LikesTheTunaHere t1_ja87lul wrote
But did the road crack? Cause if it was a nokia the road would have cracked.
just_here_for_SFW t1_ja8fqtv wrote
It fell on February 6th, maybe you saw something about it on the news.
PulmonaryPalminpsest t1_ja36yhu wrote
I have been looking at Fairphone. Do you have experience with them?
just_here_for_SFW t1_ja8fbkf wrote
It's supported by lineageOS so you can run Android 12 on a Fairphone2 (2015). Apparently Fairphone themselves supports Android 10, which considering they started on 5.1 is not bad at all!
PulmonaryPalminpsest t1_ja8fog4 wrote
Let's pretend I'm dumb, what is lineageOS?
just_here_for_SFW t1_ja8otu8 wrote
An open source operating system based on Android. It is basically like Android just it's not build by Google. But because of it, there are builds for hardware not otherwise supported!
Like there is still support for the Galaxy SIII
PulmonaryPalminpsest t1_ja8pbxp wrote
So I guess you have to install it in someway? Is installing a new OS difficult?
just_here_for_SFW t1_ja90r17 wrote
It was intimidating the first time because the instructions say it can brick your phone, but to be honest it was pretty easy. Basically it's just copy paste the instructions in a command line tool. What is nice is there is updates weekly, so security patches are up to date. Those are click and forget from within the phone (like normal updates) and just version updates require the command-line again, but the second time it's way less nerveracking!
PulmonaryPalminpsest t1_ja94io7 wrote
I see. Thank you! I will definetly consider it!
just_here_for_SFW t1_ja9gume wrote
There is also a lot of community support!
zBarba t1_ja39o33 wrote
I have the fairphone 4 and it's great so far, I'm planning to keep it at least 10 years
Savinien83 t1_ja4zmig wrote
I started with Fairphone 2. Painful experience, there were a lot of problem. Uograded to Fairphone 3: problem solved, work like a charm. Don't plan to upgrade to 4 before a few years. Already dropped it in my bath, easily replaced the mic module.
enV2022 t1_ja1tkru wrote
Does it offer an external storage feature? If not, it is inevitable it will run out of space since updates for anything will eventually clog it up. Switching ships here but I absolutely love my iPad but that’s how Apple ensures you’ll move on to a newer one eventually. Whether it’s system updates or just your favorite apps, eventually you’ll run out of space.
optutil1 t1_ja2f1og wrote
Expandable storage & headphone jack.
chunky-guac t1_ja4z2ba wrote
My Nokia smartphone was the worst phone I've ever had. I've never had a phone for less than a year until I got that one, but after six months I just couldn't deal with the constant lagging and crashes. My Motorola wasn't much more expensive and perform much better
anonymous22006 t1_ja60434 wrote
I loved my lumia, back when it was a windows phone.
The only issue was that MS has a tendency to abandon technology for no apparent reason, so there were no really good apps for it.
UNKNOWN_NAME710 t1_ja5g2hu wrote
The Internal of the phone is just like a Samsung A03s, The exterior as well just with Nokia.
jncc t1_ja2yjrm wrote
The problem is that after you repair it, you still have an android phone.
RickestRickSea137 t1_ja1sp0v wrote
hardware good for 5 years
OS updates for 3 years
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soo
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usable lifetime: 3 years
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come on. fucking support your products. its no good if theres all sorts of future hacks which you won't be protected against during a reasonable ownership period. it's almost lying to misrepresent hardware support for 5 years.