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[deleted] t1_jb8ffhx wrote

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pagoodma t1_jb9wjrt wrote

I drive it daily and in the summer and its absolutely this bad.

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vhalros t1_jb9w4ct wrote

I didn't take a new photo, but here is a random one I just happen to have from 2017 at Hampshire and Prospect: https://imgur.com/a/oTkDhSU; that was during the morning rush hour. It is more common for people to bunch up like that at a red light than to form a long queue though, so perhaps that is the source of your misconception. You'd have to take the photo at just the right time before they sort of bunch up to look like it does in this post. It looks like the person in front has stopped with his foot on the ground, but people behind are still coming up to the intersection.

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Alebrosch t1_jb8kv3b wrote

The photo is a bit exaggerated, but to be fair most drivers go out of their way not to see any cyclists queued up when they want to make a turn through the bike lane.

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UniWheel t1_jbk1bez wrote

>The photo is a bit exaggerated, but to be fair most drivers go out of their way not to see any cyclists queued up when they want to make a turn through the bike lane.

Which suggests that having a queue there is probably not a good idea to begin with.

It would make more sense to have the cyclists in a bunch that can clear out quickly and then make vehicular turns possible.

The objection to having bikes in a bunch would be that cars can't pass them, but at busy hours passing cars only get momentarily ahead anyway - even with care to keep filtering past stopped traffic appropriately slow and careful, net progress on a bike can approach twice that of a car, so the few rounds of leapfrogging before the car is left permanently behind is only needless churn and repetition of a slight, but non-zero risk that can eventually add up to an incident.

Probably it would all be smoother if everything just moved at bike speed during busy hours, and passing bikes was something that drivers only tried to do at hours when the lights weren't causing car backups.

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terminal_prognosis t1_jb9mb4r wrote

Eh? I regularly encounter about 10-15 people around when waiting at Inman Sq at peak hours. They're not in a line typically, they bunch up through the light phase.

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CaesarOrgasmus t1_jb9tib1 wrote

> If you want to measure something, go out at the time of year when it's least feasible and collect a single data point at random. I am an analyst.

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LoneSocialRetard t1_jb8fnzs wrote

Yeah theres no way that many people would like up like that especially when there is so much space to the right

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