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tamirabeth t1_jcu4a0k wrote

Reply to comment by terminal_prognosis in Stop sign coming to Brookline Street at Franklin after numerous accidents by SpyCats

The rest of the world shuns stop signs?

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terminal_prognosis t1_jcu4ozr wrote

In most countries stop signs are quite rare - like you can go days without seeing one, so kind of, yes.

But I was talking about all-way stops, which are only in N. America, Liberia, and S. Africa, because they are inefficient and unhelpful.

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tamirabeth t1_jcu5lrk wrote

I mean...

> for use at low traffic-volume locations, the arrangement is common in the United States, Canada, Mexico, South Africa, and Liberia, as well as in a number of, usually rural, locations in Australia where visibility on the junction approaches is particularly poor.

is pretty dead on for Cambridge.

And I noticed you missed a couple of countries....

We also don't have many roundabouts, and never will have as many as other countries where they're more common. This doesn't seem like a fair comparison when the roads are completely different in other countries.

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terminal_prognosis t1_jcu5x87 wrote

If we're going to quote, how about the disadvantages:

> the Handbook of Road Safety Measures recommends that four-way stops are best used between minor roads away from urbanized areas

and

> Some of the disadvantages associated with all-way stops are: > > * Increased emissions of hydrocarbons.[9]: 431–433 > * Increased average delay.[9]: 430 > * Increased wear on vehicle brakes > * Discouraging bicycling.[10]

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tamirabeth t1_jcu6ixj wrote

Wow. So many major disadvantages to prioritizing safety. /s--clearly

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CJYP t1_jd0f7hi wrote

I bet the handbook would recommend a traffic signal for this purpose. Might work a bit better than a stop sign.

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