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noob_tube03 t1_ivaik4q wrote

But it's already illegal to turn right on red into a pedestrian. How does this change anything? Local laws that dont match the rest of the country don't help anyone. Better to add traffic easing at all major turns instead

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ik1nky t1_ivbadqi wrote

We have stats available to say this would help everyone. See DC, NYC, and Montreal. Compliance for no turn on red is much higher than compliance for stopping/yielding to pedestrians before a turn on red.

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noob_tube03 t1_ivbdtrv wrote

Legit question (not trying to troll) but is the data for pedestrian/cyclist safety based purely on accidents at lights or specific to red light behavior. I ask because Cambridge has a ton of anti-car intersection where the pedestrian lights are only green when the traffic lights are also green, but the only direction for traffic is a turn (aka you are forcing cars into pedestrians due to lights). I'd be curious what the effects of safety are with these setups as well

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crazicus t1_ivyal2c wrote

Nobody is really choosing to drive into pedestrians when they’re turning right on red. They’re just not paying attention to all directions, only to the direction that traffic is coming from

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