Submitted by Harmony_w t3_107sx1t in CambridgeMA
Financial-Second-539 t1_j3od2gd wrote
If you get chased by a man with a machete, let him get you
hailfire27 t1_j3pxapy wrote
I'm not saying the man wasn't dangerous, but I've seen videos of police in Melbourne and London, apprehending a man with a machete without having to shoot him.
CatOwlFilms t1_j3sna8x wrote
Do you have a link? I’m genuinely curious
pelican_chorus t1_j3sqz0r wrote
British police vs man charging at them with knife.
British police vs man charging at them with machete.
British police vs man charging at them with two knives.
That's just the first three hits searching YouTube for "british police vs knife," there are hundreds of others.
Note: I do think that the police have the right to defend themselves, and occasionally a gun may need to be the weapon of last resort. However, it should actually be the last resort.
It's hard to know what happened in this case with no video footage.
hailfire27 t1_j3snxif wrote
I browse reddit on average 4 hours a day for about the past 12 years. I can't recall the specific post, sorry but I have seen many videos of police interactions/conduct both good and bad on Reddit.
CrimsonStorm t1_j3oxv4d wrote
Jfc people stop downvoting OP, even if you think the cops were justified in shooting we can still have a conversation.
Harmony_w OP t1_j3s0mdz wrote
They can downvote all they want. It doesn't matter to me won't make a dent in the amount of karma I've built up. There's still a discussion happening.
mowhozart t1_j3t2voo wrote
Bruh, no one cares about your karma except you apparently. You’re getting downvoted because of your shitty takes. Still waiting for explanation and proof on how the police lied in this incident.
some1saveusnow t1_j43ooq7 wrote
OP is of the police are guilty until proven innocent mentality
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some1saveusnow t1_j4ghm66 wrote
Time for you to brush up on the legal system, and also check the actual police stats of how most interactions result and how they get adjudicated when they become controversial. In short, stop just checking headlines because you can’t see the forest for the trees
[deleted] t1_j4h9tr1 wrote
What kind of sheltered existence do you live under? Thanks for the laugh.
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Rindan t1_j3r2xbu wrote
Let's see the police cam footage then. That should clear everything up.
Oh right, there is none.
The problem is a complete and total lack of police accountability. They might have been in the right, but we will never know because the police's absolute number one job above all else, is to protect the police. That's why we don't have footage of this shooting despite the fact that there isn't a single good reason for that.
Effective_Golf_3311 t1_j3s2wbx wrote
The problem is actually your politicians who banned the technology which means the police wouldn’t be able to wear them if they wanted to.
Whoops.
Rindan t1_j3sue75 wrote
"My politicians" have never once proposed, much less enacted a ban on police cameras. If a politicians, who I sure as shit didn't vote for, voted to ban police cameras, I will bet my absolute bottom dollar that it was done to appease the police union.
The police union and their political control over local governments is the beginning and end of 95% of policing problems.
And to be crystal clear, there is no law against police cameras. There is an ordinance that doesn't explicitly carve out an exception like it did for dashcams, but again, that exception was explicitly not carved out at the behest of cops.
There is basically no group of any serious size that is against putting cameras on cops, except for cops, and politicians that have been corrupted by cops. The only two serious groups in the world against putting cameras on police are corrupt cops and corrupt politicians. Unfortunately, corrupt cops and their corrupt politicians do in fact have a lot of power.
Hopefully this man's death will lead to policy change, one corpse at a time.
Effective_Golf_3311 t1_j3t4s32 wrote
>In 2018 and after two years of discussion, Cambridge passed a comprehensive Surveillance Technology Ordinance that at the time was one of the “most collaborative and progressive in the nation and the first of its kind on the East Coast.”
>The goal of the ordinance was to ensure city government doesn’t engage in unwarranted surveillance, said then-Councilor Craig Kelley.
>More: ACLU calls Cambridge’s new surveillance ordinance a ‘victory’
>While police cruiser dashboard cameras are exempt under the ordinance, body worn cameras are not.
Rough.
some1saveusnow t1_j43orbe wrote
Check please
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Harmony_w OP t1_j3od7ma wrote
In case you don't know and aren't just trying to be clever, he didn't chase anyone.
Sloth_Flyer t1_j3odf1o wrote
Didn't he charge the police with a knife?
Harmony_w OP t1_j3odhrw wrote
That's being investigated
Sloth_Flyer t1_j3oeb5b wrote
If you want to dispute the police's story, that's cool -- but you can't claim he "didn't chase anyone" unless you have proof of that.
Harmony_w OP t1_j3og79b wrote
You can't claim he did without proof. The police already lied about aspects of this case, their credibility is ruined.
mowhozart t1_j3oi2i9 wrote
What have they lied about?
Mountain_Resolve1407 t1_j3ohy6m wrote
What aspects?
Harmony_w OP t1_j3oih1w wrote
The number of shots
mowhozart t1_j3oj07j wrote
What was reported and how many were actually fired?
biffNicholson t1_j3olowk wrote
yes, what are the other numbers of shoots you have heard?
you can listen to the entire police radio transmission here
about half way through is when the officer calls in shots fired., and just after that another officer radios dispatch saying he heard 5 shots, dispatch confirms it was the police doing the shooting
Sloth_Flyer t1_j3oh4zo wrote
link?
thatguy10095 t1_j3ogyus wrote
Out of genuine curiosity is there any evidence one way or the other? From what I've heard we have accounts that the guy was covered in his own blood from harming himself, showing at minimum he's likely not in his right mind at the time. As tragic as his death is, at face value it looks like suicide by cop.
guimontag t1_j3oz5b1 wrote
just because it's being "investigated" doesn't meany ou get to put down any lie about it you want
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some1saveusnow t1_j3pwazg wrote
Lol the Cambridge police who haven’t been involved in a police shooting death in 20 years are looking to get embroiled by shooting someone without absolute just cause….? Someone who by all accounts was doing god knows the fuck what. GTFOH
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