Astrocyde t1_j50g42h wrote
The outrage over this is dumb. If an armed person covered in blood isn't listening to reason and charging at you, you'd shoot them too if you had a gun. I understand that people want somewhere to direct their anger and put blame on someone but for once, this shooting was completely justified.
WaitForItTheMongols t1_j50hb8b wrote
Sure, but you need to think bigger picture.
We need to make investments in our society so that the situation you describe doesn't end up happening, and so that we don't get to the point where shooting them is our last remaining option.
mowhozart t1_j50mf2z wrote
Yes, I agree. Never stop improving..
But if what the police are saying is true - this may well have been the last remaining option. It would be nice if there were bodycams to get a definitive answer but that is being held up at city hall, not the police. It would be nice if there were more tools, like tasers that could’ve been deployed, but again - that’s on city hall.
The problem I have is that almost everyone is taking this tragedy as an opportunity to push their anti-police agenda. The Muslim Justice League and others are trying to make this a race issue when it’s not. Some City councilors are again using tragedy to shit on police, calling for them to disarm and disband. Councilor Zondervan actually asked why do we need armed police to respond to dangerous calls and that firefighters don’t go into burning buildings with guns. Councilor Azeem asked was it necessary to chase a man who was self harming with a knife. Either these people are out of touch with reality or they just use any tragedy to push their agenda and hope people really aren’t paying attention to the details.
AutomaticMidnite t1_j5156xp wrote
>It would be nice if there were bodycams to get a definitive answer but that is being held up at city hall, not the police. It would be nice if there were more tools, like tasers that could’ve been deployed, but again - that’s on city hall.
Man, I didn't know that's where the body cameras stalled out...yeesh
Marc McGovern, a Cambridge city councilor, told MassLive that body cameras have been long supported by both the former and current city police commissioners, the city’s police union and several city councilors.
“Unfortunately, despite agreement, the city has not allocated funds for body cameras, thus there is no body camera footage,” councilman McGovern wrote in a newsletter statement.
some1saveusnow t1_j549542 wrote
It’s 1000% being used as an excuse to push the anti police budget/ anti armed police agenda. You have to keep in mind that this is Cambridge, a city with some EXTREMELY far left thinkers in city government, in a city that NEVER has an opportunity to go after the police like this. They took their chance. Zondervan is a means to an end thinker who doesn’t care how he gets to his policies, he just wants to do it. It’s interesting that in the past ten years or so Councillor Simmons is repeatedly having to reign in a lot of the fervor that comes out of this council during discourse
Azeem did ask some pertinent questions I thought, like why couldn’t more non lethal rounds get deployed. The police responded that they require time to do so. They also got into why aiming at legs/arms/extremities is not an overall safe thing to do for anyone involved or around the scene.
unresolved_m t1_j50utho wrote
I'm sure that cops never killed anyone without a reason. Certainly not in the US.
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