Submitted by jimpaulmitsi t3_10gwrgs in CambridgeMA
asuds t1_j5582gj wrote
And this is all because he didn’t want to negotiate with unionized workers? Cool…
sckuzzle t1_j55dfsu wrote
> And this is all because he didn’t want to negotiate with unionized workers?
No. They negotiated. They weren't able to come to a compromise, and Darwin's went out of business instead.
This means that the union was asking for enough that the store literally went out of business. Not that they weren't willing to negotiate.
lincoln-logs t1_j56b2fb wrote
How much were Darwin employees making per hour before the shut down?
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BigBallerBrad t1_j57cctq wrote
You’re wrong but go off
teem t1_j57ku3q wrote
This is what happened.
guimontag t1_j558yup wrote
Lmao no, this is because workers wanted $30/hr and healthcare with NO COPAY (something practically no one in thr state has) for working at a fucking sandwich shop. How tf is the store supposed to stay profitable with that? Why would the elderly owners suddenly want to deal with triple the paperwork and bureaucracy?
Expensive-Type2132 t1_j55yp75 wrote
They asked for $24/hour, not $30/hour and zero-deductible, not zero-copay.
pelican_chorus t1_j560hjq wrote
What companies offer zero deductible?
Expensive-Type2132 t1_j57lhpz wrote
Every company I've worked for offered a low, or zero-deductible plan.
pelican_chorus t1_j5aez8k wrote
Nice companies. I have worked for a good-sized non-profit software company, a university lab and a school and all of them had at least a $500 deductible.
nattarbox t1_j55a81j wrote
Also a ton of paid vacation.
From what I heard they negotiated and got something running with the union, but subsequent asks were too much so it had to shutter.
Expensive-Type2132 t1_j55z026 wrote
They asked for 168 hours of PTO. For reference, I receive 296 hours PTO.
pelican_chorus t1_j56091u wrote
>For reference, I receive 296 days PTO.
Huh? Not sure if a typo, or a completely bizarre, unique situation that has nothing at all to do with coffeeshop workers.
Expensive-Type2132 t1_j57lqzz wrote
Yes, it was a typo. I receive 296 hours (37 days) PTO.
nattarbox t1_j5a7mhm wrote
Do you work at a sandwich shop
sckuzzle t1_j56vfvf wrote
Even with no holidays, there are only ~250 work days per year. So it's not possible to have that much PTO unless they are counting weekends as PTO...which also doesn't make sense.
Expensive-Type2132 t1_j57llip wrote
I clearly meant hours.
asuds t1_j55aspw wrote
I believe it was 24/hr but those were also the starting positions for negotiations for which he declined to participate. Fair I guess but not an optimal strategy.
Also it was probably the highest end sandwich shop in a high cost area. What was a sandwich like 147 semolians ?
guimontag t1_j55cf7i wrote
High cost area means that the shop also has high costs on rent or property taxes and utilities.
I'm pro union but the people doing the asking on their behalf were absolute idiots about how they went about this thing
whymauri t1_j55cjr9 wrote
Didn't a faction allied with the Union also picket the owner's house?
Edit: lol at the downvote. You get the right to bargain, how you choose to bargain and whether it's done poorly is another discussion.
guimontag t1_j55cu5h wrote
I can't remember, all that drama is from 2022
0verstim t1_j55kyyl wrote
Business ownership is super simple and I'm sure this was all just due to only one issue, yes.
asuds t1_j55xi07 wrote
No, it’s a holistic activity and that includes a motivated and productive staff.
They may have just retired out but it’s hard to imagine the optimal value capture was shutting down.
some1saveusnow t1_j5snz7l wrote
You are right, it wasn’t the ideal, and the hand was forced against its will in this case
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