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guimontag t1_j558yup wrote

Reply to comment by asuds in Darwin’s closing by jimpaulmitsi

Lmao no, this is because workers wanted $30/hr and healthcare with NO COPAY (something practically no one in thr state has) for working at a fucking sandwich shop. How tf is the store supposed to stay profitable with that? Why would the elderly owners suddenly want to deal with triple the paperwork and bureaucracy?

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Expensive-Type2132 t1_j55yp75 wrote

They asked for $24/hour, not $30/hour and zero-deductible, not zero-copay.

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pelican_chorus t1_j560hjq wrote

What companies offer zero deductible?

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Expensive-Type2132 t1_j57lhpz wrote

Every company I've worked for offered a low, or zero-deductible plan.

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pelican_chorus t1_j5aez8k wrote

Nice companies. I have worked for a good-sized non-profit software company, a university lab and a school and all of them had at least a $500 deductible.

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nattarbox t1_j55a81j wrote

Also a ton of paid vacation.

From what I heard they negotiated and got something running with the union, but subsequent asks were too much so it had to shutter.

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Expensive-Type2132 t1_j55z026 wrote

They asked for 168 hours of PTO. For reference, I receive 296 hours PTO.

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pelican_chorus t1_j56091u wrote

>For reference, I receive 296 days PTO.

Huh? Not sure if a typo, or a completely bizarre, unique situation that has nothing at all to do with coffeeshop workers.

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sckuzzle t1_j56vfvf wrote

Even with no holidays, there are only ~250 work days per year. So it's not possible to have that much PTO unless they are counting weekends as PTO...which also doesn't make sense.

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asuds t1_j55aspw wrote

I believe it was 24/hr but those were also the starting positions for negotiations for which he declined to participate. Fair I guess but not an optimal strategy.

Also it was probably the highest end sandwich shop in a high cost area. What was a sandwich like 147 semolians ?

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guimontag t1_j55cf7i wrote

High cost area means that the shop also has high costs on rent or property taxes and utilities.

I'm pro union but the people doing the asking on their behalf were absolute idiots about how they went about this thing

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whymauri t1_j55cjr9 wrote

Didn't a faction allied with the Union also picket the owner's house?

Edit: lol at the downvote. You get the right to bargain, how you choose to bargain and whether it's done poorly is another discussion.

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guimontag t1_j55cu5h wrote

I can't remember, all that drama is from 2022

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