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[deleted] t1_javrrik wrote

Bub, look at the bottom of that list and tell me one state you'd be willing to live in. There is a correlation here.

edit: also

> That's fair--great idea for a future chart. In the meantime, here's a bit about the remaining revenue:

> The remaining half comes from charge revenue, miscellaneous income, and the federal government. Charge revenues are derived from services that state governments charge direct fees for: hospitals, school tuition, sewerage, highway tolls, and smaller services like parks and recreation. Miscellaneous revenues come from interest earnings, royalties, lottery revenues, and the sale of state property. Federal sources include public welfare programs such as Medicare and Medicaid, K-12 education programs, or other special transfers such as coronavirus relief.

per the original post. So yeah, they don't TAX you for hospitals or schools or roads or parks, they CHARGE you for it, cause capitalism. Or they just beg the gubbermint for free money that comes from......checks notes....states at the top of this list.

This post better be you trying to convince Connecticunts to try and get welfare queens like Kentucky to pay their own bills and not just shitposting about how high CT taxes are.

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FuckSteveMills t1_javusqs wrote

I’d be down to live in Alaska, New Mexico, Wyoming, South Carolina, Oregon, Utah, etc. Those are some beautiful states with great wildlife. The gate keeping for CT gets weird in this sub.

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AdHistorical7107 t1_jaw10wy wrote

Doesn't Alaska have the highest domestic abuse rate per capita? Mississippi highest murder rate?

Pros and cons to every state...

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jay1982k t1_jawn60z wrote

No theyre not.

U have to go miles to see anything.

Small towns deal w opioid epidemic.

West virginia is stunningly beautiful almost everywhere. Ill happily live in ct.

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FuckSteveMills t1_jaxyn3y wrote

How are you going to tell someone what they find beautiful? I know some people don’t like the outdoors, wildlife or warm weather, but you can’t just going around telling people that something isn’t beautiful even though they find it so. Idk why you would simp so hard for a state lmao

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jay1982k t1_jay1fg7 wrote

Triggered.

I dunno why u got so snowflaked. U need to de-pill.

Flexing too much, bruh.

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FuckSteveMills t1_jay1tsu wrote

Sorry bruh the libtards got me through the vaccine now I’m afraid to leave the state

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welcomebackjelly t1_jawqe16 wrote

You have to go miles to see anything in ct unless you live on the coast, we dealt with a serious opioid epidemic not long ago. I love Ct it’s my favorite state but let’s not throw rocks from a glass house

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jay1982k t1_jawuo94 wrote

Im not from ct.

I plan to live on the coast.

Few other states have trains

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welcomebackjelly t1_jax0b0l wrote

I’m confused on what you’re trying to say?

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jay1982k t1_jaxh9dk wrote

U live on the coast -no driving miles.

The small towns here dont have any major safety/drug crisis

The schools are good unlike coasts elsewhere

And trains available unlike other coasts

And these other states dont have the above.

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welcomebackjelly t1_jaxrdcp wrote

Well I mean yea but you’re cherry picking the best part of the state, I’m on the coast and it’s heavenly, but I’d argue that upstate South Carolina is nicer than upstate Connecticut. The inverse of your argument would be like comparing Charleston to Waterbury

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welcomebackjelly t1_jawo11o wrote

South Carolina also has basically everything ct has. I’ve spent a lot of time there for work and was very surprised how similar they are as far as natural amenities go. Just different cultures

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mkt853 t1_jay74jx wrote

South Carolina wants to execute a woman for taking abortion pills. But yeah totally the same as Connecticut!

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welcomebackjelly t1_jay77w6 wrote

I said same natural amenities and different cultures did I not? Edit: while we’re on the subject, SC remains one of the few souther states to have upheld abortion rights. The headlines claiming they want to execute women are predominantly clickbait and all stem from one attempted bill that has been blocked by the state Supreme Court every time it’s been proposed.

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LFCReds8 t1_jaw9dx4 wrote

Spot on. We’re obv here because we’re connecticuties, but it’s crazy how blindly attached some are to our state.

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gyst_ t1_jayv04q wrote

Imagine being able to live in places like South Carolina without fearing for your rights/life. Must be nice.

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[deleted] t1_javx2zq wrote

I'm sure they are beautiful places to see but as far as living?

Alaska is a weird case because it gets oil money. Utah is crazy cult people. Oregon is probably fine around Portland but go inland and it gets bad. Wyoming is....who knows. SC and NM are just straight up shitholes.

There are probably perfectly nice towns in each of those states(if you have the money) but overall they are horrible places to live for various reasons ranging from crime to poor education to inferior hospitals to lack of services and whatever else.

People in this sub constantly complaining about taxes without realizing that we have it pretty good is what gets weird in this sub.

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FuckSteveMills t1_jaw2tya wrote

I’ve been to all those places and they’re not shitholes or 3rd world countries lmao. Life exists outside CT. Go see the country or just be stereotypical nutmegger and assume everywhere else is a completely inferior shithole because you live in the high class society of CT

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welcomebackjelly t1_jaw4174 wrote

Haha if you suggest that there are other states to live in that aren’t CT, all hell breaks loose

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FuckSteveMills t1_jaw4mh9 wrote

There’s a reason retirees move to other states

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welcomebackjelly t1_jaw6b02 wrote

I mean I love it here but I’ve lived in all sorts of states and loved them all. Great parts to every state. I raised my kids here, and I’ve been spending more and more time at my other houses. Not sure how much longer I’ll keep my ct house

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UhaRugger1 t1_jaw9vu9 wrote

I've lived in a couple different areas of NM. One being Albuquerque. I enjoyed Albuquerque but they do have some problems. The other being the "shit hole" the other poster was referencing. The majority of the locals didn't have past a 6th grade education and that 6th grade level was not comparable to CT or any northeastern state. A friend was a teacher in that particular town. Her 3rd graders were reading at a 1st grade NM education level. She had also taught 1st graders and would get kids who didn't even known letter sounds. I'm not talking a few kids. I'm talking full on entire classes of kids not able to make letter sounds because this was their first experience with school. At the time they had no kindergarten and no pre school. The lack of funding was astounding. People complain about lack of funding for schools in New England, they have never seen what happens when a state can't fund their schools. The majority of NM is a beautiful state, along with the other states on that list, but they have systemic issues. One may not care if they don't have kids but you should care. An educated society helps all. Those kids will grow up and have to work. Do you really want poorly educated people running the local government or working as aids in elderly homes.

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SuperYoshi19 t1_jawnz0e wrote

The capital building of South Carolina flew the Confederate flag until ten or so years ago. No thank you.

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Bobinct t1_jaw1fmf wrote

Wyoming is ruled by the fossil fuel, timber, and cattle industries. Complaining about pollution there is damn near illegal.

I'm not kidding about ruled either. They exercise full control over the state legislature.

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[deleted] t1_jaw4kzv wrote

It's less than 600k people in an area 40% larger than all of New England. I feel like if it was really an amazing place to live more people would live there.

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Ds87878 t1_jawjgv0 wrote

Willing to bet you’ve complained about beef prices but then lobby on the internet to shut cattle farming down. They feed the country so simmer down.

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Bobinct t1_jawobaq wrote

Don't really eat much beef anymore. I could manage without it.

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kimwim43 t1_jawawwf wrote

I gave you an up vote. But then reminded it when you went on to say ppl constantly complaining about the taxes. No. We aren’t. I don’t mind one red cent of the taxes I pay, I know I have a very high quality of life in this state, and that isn’t free.

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Soul_blazer84 t1_javy1e5 wrote

Imagine saying it’s fine around Portland????? But bad everywhere else.

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[deleted] t1_jaw0ju2 wrote

Dude, lay off the Fox News and go outside.

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Soul_blazer84 t1_jaw7qkc wrote

Lol who mentioned Fox News? Walmart is literally closing all its Portland area stores because of crime I wouldn’t say Oregon is fine in the “Portland area”.

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Ds87878 t1_jawjary wrote

Spoken by somebody who sounds like they’ve never left CT.

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frissonFry t1_jaw4uit wrote

Vermont

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Familiar-Treacle-995 t1_jaw75pw wrote

I moved to CT from VT. My life is better in every way in CT. My families salary nearly doubled, I actually live on a much more quiet and peaceful area (lived on rt 4 in VT and now live in the quiet corner) and my cost of living is basically the same (got kinda lucky buying my house at a low point in housing prices). And, I'm only 2 hours from VT and can visit as often as I like. There is a saying in VT, "you can't get there from here" and it is for real. People complain about traffic and driving in CT, but I had to travel 45 min just to get to the nearest decent grocery store. Obviously your milage will vary, but for me I'm much happier in CT.

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UhaRugger1 t1_jawatpj wrote

I have a friend who moved out of Vermont for that very reason. There was only 3 ways they would get to their job and two were usually heavily trafficked due to construction and would take an hour to get to work. They also lived 20 minutes from the closest grocery store. If there was something going on with the road, they SOL.

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frissonFry t1_jawiqg7 wrote

I'm not saying I'd choose VT over CT, I was just answering the parent comment.

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[deleted] t1_jaw5ed8 wrote

Yup, that's how far up the list I had to go to find one that wouldn't suck. It's number 22.

edit: for clarity, there are 21 below it.

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jfurt16 t1_javv72c wrote

Why can't the answer lie somewhere in the middle? Not everything has to be black and white/top and bottom only.

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Knineteen t1_jaw9dxc wrote

But the second we raise taxes on the poorest people in this state….

Well, you know how that goes. Complete double standard in this sub.

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redburn0003 t1_jawfh25 wrote

CT has a high proportion of Defense contractors effectively subsidized by the Federal Government. Lockheed, P&W, Raytheon, Electric Boat.

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Either_Permit t1_jawozw0 wrote

, I must say , you try to come off intelligent but u sound like an entitled a typical moron that tries hard to wear the latest Lv - or latest Gucci product that walks around a party with a cheap glass of champagne, & everyone walks away from.. Yep that's def you.

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[deleted] t1_jazaqyl wrote

My friend, start from scratch with your assessment of me. A few hints, I don't know what Lv means but I don't wear Gucci. Also, don't hosts determine the champagne served at a party? Is BYOBC a thing? Why would anyone pick the cheapest? And also, if I'm even at a party, I walk away from people, it's an autism thing.

Seriously, start from your most basic assumption and re-write all of that.

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Either_Permit t1_jbql922 wrote

K , ty for enlightening me . I was probably drinking that cheap champagne or doing killer blow . Not very good at texting on one of those benders . Lol my bad ✌️

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uthyrbendragon t1_jaw695j wrote

This graph shows how much each state relies on taxes for the budget, this does not necessarily translate directly to tax rate per capita….your title seems to be deliberately misleading by not giving the entire context.

I believe we are still behind California and Vermont in terms of tax burden per capita.

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LordConnecticut t1_jawqqnh wrote

We’re behind more then that:

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/tax-burden-by-state

CT is usually near the bottom of the upper quartile in any given year going back at least a couple decades. Anybody who screams about “highest taxes in the country” is off their rocker.

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AvogadrosMoleSauce t1_jawrllk wrote

This is correct; if you follow the original post the person who made the graph stated that other states have income from tolls, other service fees, federal money, etc. which aren’t reflected in the graph.

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ctbeagle18 t1_jawq3tj wrote

That was my understanding as well until you explained it.

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throwy4444 t1_jaw6r2h wrote

Both the heading of this post and the title of the graph are potentially misleading.

Unfortunately people will read this is as "Connecticut has the #1 highest tax burden overall in the United States." It's not clear that this graph is showing that. Taxes come from a variety of sources and it may be measuring the amount from those sources.

Also, I can't easily locate the USA Facts source. And the image does not give us any detail about what it is exactly trying to measure.

Connecticut may actually have a very high tax rate overall, but we don't know because this chart isn't giving that answer.

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CTdadof5 t1_jawdl3u wrote

So you obviously went to a CT school where you were taught critical thinking and analysis. Worth every penny of taxes. Now quietly imagine a world where everyone was able to do the same. Thank you for this!!

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redburn0003 t1_jawjrh8 wrote

I hope you use your critical thinking skills with everything you hear. From all sides and all outlets

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dubauoo OP t1_jawnx4g wrote

In your own words l, what does this chart mean to you?

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throwy4444 t1_jawpznj wrote

Good question. USA facts looks like it presents detailed data on a variety of subjects, so I don't think the site is fudging the numbers. My best guess is that the chart rates taxes according the sources they outline (property, fees, income, etc.). It would really help if we had a link to the source of the chart.

Here's a more comprehensive look at taxes state by state. Connecticut is not in the top 10 but is still high:

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/highest-taxed-states

Here Connecticut is #7 highest in tax burden.

https://wallethub.com/edu/states-with-highest-lowest-tax-burden/20494

Connecticut is clearly not a low tax state, but where we fit in the overall rankings depends on the resource.

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CaptServo t1_jaw4rqq wrote

This graph sucks. It is engineered to boil the blood of the low information reactionary.

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uthyrbendragon t1_jaw6tzy wrote

…generally those that do not seek to understand where the data is coming from, what it actually says, and what that might mean!

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jeremyshelton t1_javvwjo wrote

Did you not read the header of the graph? It shows a breakdown of state revenues based on tax-related revenue streams. Lamont and the state are obviously doing something right, because we have more money in the coffers than ever before.

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Prudent-Ball2698 t1_jaxscmo wrote

Ct commies stay on this tripe. Glad to sell Mt properties for triple price then move south with over a million. These dems made this state unliveable

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Knineteen t1_jaw93yi wrote

Yeah, it’s call federal Covid relief money.

Lamont hasn’t done anything meaningful to fix the state’s finances; just got lucky.

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jeremyshelton t1_jawaq3h wrote

Ahhhh yes, our governor and his wife embezzled $700 million of COVID relief funds and our state now has a $1 billion+ surplus because he “got lucky”… got it.

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Knineteen t1_jawe5a4 wrote

You see, federal Covid relief money goes to the state universities which requires less money to come out of the state’s wallet. Would you like some other fifth grade examples?

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flatdanny t1_jaxm0sf wrote

I thought much of the COVID relief went to Trump cronies like Empty Greene and her cohorts, in the manner of loans that were forgiven.

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Prudent-Ball2698 t1_jaw6dgj wrote

That's why his wife made 700M since covid "doing something right"? Wouldn't be because she used her husband's power to get a state contract now would it?

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jeremyshelton t1_jaw6qcp wrote

I KNOW you did not claim Lamont and his wife have made $700 million off of state contracts? Like, surely you couldn’t believe that? 😂😭

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flatdanny t1_jaxmg21 wrote

Thats a tired old trope

Cant find anything new?

>Annie Lamont has more than 30 years of experience as a venture capitalist investing in transformative companies and entrepreneurs. In 2014, Annie, along with Patricia Kemp and Andrew Adams, launched Oak HC/FT, a venture capital firm that invests in early to growth stage tech-enabled companies shaping the future of healthcare information and financial services. Before founding Oak HC/FT, Annie was and remains a Managing Partner at Oak Investment Partners.

>Annie is known as a leading healthcare and fintech investor, appearing on the Forbes Midas List, Institutional Investor’s FinTech Finance 40 list, and the Top 100 Venture Capitalist rankings published by CB Insights and The New York Times. She was the first recipient of the National Venture Capital Association’s award for Excellence in Healthcare Innovation. Annie was also honored with Healthcare Private Equity Association’s 2017 Russell L. Carson Award for lifetime achievement in healthcare investing.

I thought republicans liked capitalists.

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Prudent-Ball2698 t1_jaxrzq0 wrote

When they aren't making money off of a virus fhe Chinese gave us, independents do. But jfc have you never looked into It? She made almost a billion off the private corporations she bought bc Lamont gave them the contracts. If thar isn't Rico act qualified for a governor to give contracts to a wife who has business in the south where wages are cheaper, then why was Rico invented for the"mob" that they never killed? The cartels they don't do shit against? Use Rico on them they're gone. All IL say. Defend commy Lamont more I'd be willing to guess your in on his payroll as Rico predicates

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mkt853 t1_jay80wb wrote

Wasn't that already investigated or looked into?

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whateverusayboi t1_javz8ij wrote

Yeah, they're taxing the shit out of us, and you call that "doing something right."

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jeremyshelton t1_jaw2thy wrote

Are they “taxing the shit out of us” as you so eloquently put it, or do you not know how to manage a budget? I’m guessing it’s the latter.

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whateverusayboi t1_jawbt8j wrote

Headed out in the motorhome in a few weeks to go buy another house in a free state, cash ...so, uh...what was that question again?Where are we on the list of most heavily taxed states? You're really that stupid?You idiots crack me up. So thin skinned "ew, don't criticize CT" while generally bitching about everything.I recall 9/11, how the state had a large surplus right before, then suddenly was deep in debt the day after...figures don't lie, but liars figure.
"We" have more money in the coffers...now, that's rich lol.

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19GK50 t1_jawmecv wrote

So you are so burden you can afford to own or rent a motorhome to travel to buy another home and pay cash.

Did you pay any taxes ?

If you were so burden, you couldn't afford to do this, unless mom and dad foot the bill.

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whateverusayboi t1_jawnpmw wrote

It's called living within your means, saving steadily and ensuring ROI on purchases. My son learned as well, smart enough to get "free college" through academic achievement as opposed to whining. That saved a lot. He ended up quitting, joined the USMC, got free college again, first job out paid 6 figures. Bought a house at 26. Had a plan that didn't include being a little bitch. You should try it, or spend your time bitching about everything like most of this group does. Your choice, don't care. Rent a motorhome? Looked into that ROI and inconvenience lead to purchasing instead.

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19GK50 t1_jawp76c wrote

I'm not the one bitchen about being over taxed,who bought two homes and owns a motorhome.

I too owned two homes, sold one, wife and I put 2 kids through college, they support themselves.

You don't see me crying I'm overburden, when our son had to have emergency surgery on his brain, I knew he was in good hands at Yale, or when daughter broke her leg didn't have to worry again good hospitals, when she lost her job, she was able to get insurance through the state until she got back on her feet; ALL THAT is because we have a decent quality of life because of those tax dollars.

Now go beat your chest in your new state.

And yes I'm a Vet!

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whateverusayboi t1_jawqkjo wrote

You came across as a whiny bitch. Just sayin'. Seems to be a common trait...see "Eversource" lol

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19GK50 t1_jawquo2 wrote

Whatever you say Boy... now go look in the mirror at a real whiney bitch.

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whateverusayboi t1_jawy2cu wrote

What whine... mentioned our tax ranking, and combined with the leftist government we have, decided to react. Pretty excited actually, found a few places bordering state/national parks.

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Mental_Grapefruit726 t1_jaw14r9 wrote

This is the third time in 3 days I’ve seen people moronically conflate percentages with total quantity in this sub.

Where tf did our math teachers go?

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dubauoo OP t1_jaw5kjf wrote

Now that we know Connecticut is dependent on taxes, does anyone know which areas and what percentage the tax money is used in Connecticut?

For example how much goes to state parks, the inland and coastal waterways, infrastructure etc…. What are the percentages. I can’t find any sources for this online….

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Mental_Grapefruit726 t1_jaw6779 wrote

Every nation, state, province, and local municipality on earth is dependent on taxes… how are u just now learning this?

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roo-ster t1_jax3agc wrote

> does anyone know which areas and what percentage the tax money is used in Connecticut?

You do realize that these things are not only knowable, but easily knowable, using this thing called the Internet.

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dubauoo OP t1_jaxuqo3 wrote

So can you tell me how much $$$ goes to State parks in CT????

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jay1982k t1_jawn0id wrote

Are there local taxes? Im looking at new london county and dont see any?

If this is true its not a big deal. Yeah its higher in ct but other places u have 3% imcome and 1.5% local. I mean then it befomes 4.5…vs 6.

I dont live in ct so i am a knownothing.

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CityBird555 t1_jaxr521 wrote

CT abandoned the county system in 1959. So every town has its own municipal taxes and services (garbage, sewer, police, fire, etc.) We don’t have county taxes we have state income tax, state sales tax, and town property tax. We are taxed on real property (land, structures, vehicles), and businesses are taxed on real property and equipment.

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daveashaw t1_jaw62sq wrote

The chart does have a grain of truth. CT has all kinds of BS fees and taxes. We have a business entity tax, occupational tax, high filing fees, etc. This is a result of the fact that suggesting any increase in the income tax is political suicide. The $$$ has to come from somewhere.

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LordConnecticut t1_jawpqgz wrote

What even is this chart? As opposed to states that don’t rely on taxes for revenue? (There are zero).

This is meaningless, and especially so without a nominal value for the x axis. A state could have a budget that is the smallest in the country, but have 100% of revenue come from tax sources, and be at the top of the chart.

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Prudent-Ball2698 t1_jaw648h wrote

Highest in taxes but what do we get from it? Education isn't the highest, our roads suffer in most places, what do we really gain from having these high of taxes?

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uthyrbendragon t1_jaw73tl wrote

Having lived in the South, education in CT and New England in general is light years ahead of Tx, FL, LA and nearly every southern state where ‘taxes are lower’, roads are generally much better and it goes on….

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flatdanny t1_jaxli3p wrote

> Education isn't the highest

The fact that CT is a blue state contradicts that statement.

The more educated states tend to be blue. That states with poor public education tend to be red .

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Prudent-Ball2698 t1_jb0ry30 wrote

Go to a local high school, bookshaveny been updated since 1992, if we were a well funded state the books in schools should come first, am I wrong? When I was in high school 2013 we had early 2000s hps at best

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Lazy-Street779 t1_jaw46n2 wrote

I’d really like to pay less property tax in CT but the republicans choose that rate in my town.

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DGJellyfish t1_javy2bf wrote

Makes sense, look at how great the roads are here! /s

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mkt853 t1_jaw3mgr wrote

They're pretty good for a northern state. did you know there are northern states that have unpaved roads and/or have signs saying "road not maintained in winter?" Can you imagine people in CT putting up with their road not being plowed in the winter?

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