Submitted by AdHistorical7107 t3_yenk2q in Connecticut
He violated a restraining order twice in 2018, and again in 2019. There's something seriously wrong with the law to allow this to happen repeatedly!
Comments
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_itzicid wrote
Well that needs to change, doesn't it?
GoPikachuGo1 t1_iu07tjz wrote
Tough on crime isn't the answer. Nor is locking people in cages.
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_iu08twy wrote
Nor is letting someone violating a protective order 3x out to potentially kill or harm their victim more.....
Sorry this doesn't fly with me. Domestic abuse is not good, and if it involves kids, who knows if this will turn into the next Jennifer dulos....
Bet you forgot about that one.....
GoPikachuGo1 t1_iu0989j wrote
Prison isn't the answer. Counseling, mental health care and social equity improvement is.
MissScarlettRKD t1_iu0aw2t wrote
Would you be saying counseling if he was doing it to your daughter? And repeatedly? I highly doubt it.
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_iu09i6d wrote
After first time, perhaps. But now you are endangering the safety of the victim and the children. This is the mindset that has lead us to where we are today.
Your idea does not work.
GoPikachuGo1 t1_iu09rvk wrote
My idea has never been tried.
Your idea of "lock them up" has..and THAT doesn't work.
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_iu0axcv wrote
Isnt the leniency on juvenile offenders a result of ideas like yours? And hasnt that amounted more crime by juveniles? So much so, Lamont and legislators had to pass a law making repeat offenders subject to stricter punishment?
Seems my idea has worked better than yours in the past.
GoPikachuGo1 t1_iu0boga wrote
Leniency on juveniles isn't the cause of more crime. Social inequality is, along with systemic racism and failures in our education system.
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_iu0bvbe wrote
And here we go.......
Push your propaganda elsewhere.
Let the adults care for the victims of domestic abuse. Now sit down....
wfd363 t1_iu0e38n wrote
You opened the floor to discussion. Deal with the consequences by the other commenters
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_iu0eis7 wrote
Yes discussion on domestic abuse, and what sort of consequences there are for it. If a commenter is going to hijack to push crap on social inequality and systemic racism, I will push back. It is irrelevant to this case, and I wont entertain that nonsense here. They can start another thread if they choose.
You can take a seat too...
wfd363 t1_iu0f2g5 wrote
“You can take a seat too” welcome to the internet kiddo… learn to deal with opinions you don’t like or remove yourself for your own mental health. Trust me… it really isn’t a great place to be if you’re not mentally right.
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_iu0fnm2 wrote
I just did deal with the opinion. I said sit down. Now sit down. Let the adults handle this. Dont like it, scroll on.... I am sure there are other posts you can attempt to hijack with the systemic racism bullshit that may make more sense (like the dropping test scores in CT schools)....
Peace...
wfd363 t1_iu0l00d wrote
I have said nothing racist so do not mistake me as such… if you care to be correct all I said was “ deal with other peoples opinions” without being a massive dickhead like you currently are to me… so my peace has been said. I’m done here lmao
GoPikachuGo1 t1_iu0um2q wrote
Crazy, I didn't know racism was an "agenda" now, Trumper.
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_iu0wj82 wrote
Thanks for the laugh
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maybe_little_pinch t1_iu1puo5 wrote
So..... Yeah it has been. I have actually been the victim of DV. My brother attacked me and my dad. As a result he was mandated to go into counseling and take anger management classes. This is actually fairly standard in DV cases.
interiorcrocodemon t1_iu0cpvj wrote
You're missing the point. INTERVENING to protect victims is the first line of action.
PREVENTION.
They aren't even doing that. What happens after isn't even important if we aren't protecting victims in the first place.
ShockSMH t1_iu0vzg5 wrote
Oh it takes domestic issues seriously. It just costs money for law enforcement to focus on what might happen instead of what did happen.
There are so many "did happen"s, and not enough resources.
I had my car broken into once. Window shattered, stereo stolen. Called the police in Waterbury and they laughed at me like "What do you want us to do about it?"
They didn't have the time to answer my phone call! Let alone dust my dashboard for prints and search for a match, etc.
Over 90% of crimes don't even see a trial.
I used to naively imagine that the law is the law, and with crime comes punishment. But the fact is, justice is expensive, and as a country, we can't afford it.
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CTrandomdude t1_iu2bush wrote
That’s bullshit. The problem with domestic cases is they are hard to prove. You have many “victims” that are unreliable, addicted, lie, and change their stories. Use the courts to help in custody disputes or to get favor in a divorce.
You have many cases where the husband gets arrested one week and the wife arrested the next.
These types of cases are quite common for the police and courts. When you get one in a thousand that end up as serious.
The problem is many grown adults are by in large dysfunctional. Then we ask the courts to somehow fix idiots overnight.
I think CT does fairly well in dealing with these cases and nothing needs any drastic changes.
giant_toad42 t1_itzjwna wrote
It's not taken seriously becuase people lie.
People who lie about DV should be liable for punative damages.
People who experience DV should be taken very seriously and get real results.
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_itzomq5 wrote
Lied three times? No. There is a problem here....
Or do you want to wait until the victim dies to address it?
giant_toad42 t1_itzq7hg wrote
You ever experienced DV? I saw it as a kid. I've also seen people lie about it.
Why did my mother experience what she did? Because liars get away with lying.
The reason victims of DV are not taken care of is because liars are not taken care of.
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_itzrk86 wrote
Ah. You mean the perp lies. Fortunately I have not witnessed firsthand. I did have a friend who went through it. Hence why this pisses me off
HappyLittleRadishes t1_iu03cm4 wrote
Your mother experienced what she did because your father is a piece of shit that deserves to be hauled away by the cops.
Attributing the fault of domestic violence to liars rather that the scum abusing their spouses is fucked up.
giant_toad42 t1_iu0jfzn wrote
She experienced what she did because abusers don't get punishment because "she might be lying". I agree with you too - that my ex-father is a piece of shit. I hate the guy - and everyone should hate the guy.
I'm blaming the police and liars for making the police hesitant to believe victims. No woman should suffer an abuser. Ever.
Yes. Blaming people who cry wolf (usually in divorce proceedings) for inactivity on the count of law enforcement- that is a very valid call.
DV should always be taken very seriously. It should be acted on harshly. There should be no question in the minds of law enforcement on whether or not it happened.
Jakmike t1_itzyid7 wrote
You and me are in the same boat there, 15 years worth before mom got sick of it and left with me, and the 2 younger siblings, 4 year old sister, and little brother 8 years younger than me. I was 18-19 when we all left.
Jawaka99 t1_itzkn5d wrote
Our legal system doesn't take any crime seriously. They don't want to charge people and make them felons so they can continue to vote Democrat.
Raddatatta t1_itzoa1i wrote
Yeah that's why we have the most prisoners per capita in the world.
That's not to say there aren't crimes we need to take more seriously, or are often problematic to prove and therefore don't get punished often. But the idea that we don't want to charge anyone with a felony is ridiculous when our prisons are full.
Jawaka99 t1_iu00yac wrote
Yet we're closing prisons
Raddatatta t1_iu01s8q wrote
Is that a bad thing? We lock up an insane number of people. Almost half of our prisoners are there for drug related offenses. Not to mention it costs $40k a year per person in addition to them not paying taxes and having a lifelong reduced earning potential.
I'm certainly not saying we should let dangerous and violent people go free. But our prisons should have a purpose of releasing people who don't come back to prison and they fail miserably at that. I'd much prefer we had far fewer prisons.
Jawaka99 t1_iu1fs6f wrote
This isn't about drug related arrests though. That said if a person commits a more serious crime while high on drugs then they still need to be held responsible.
Raddatatta t1_iu1gjtl wrote
If you're talking about people in prison it is about drugs. That's about 40% of the prisoners is drug related crimes. And yes obviously being high isn't an excuse for another crime. Not sure why you thought I was implying otherwise?
Jawaka99 t1_iu1v3eh wrote
I'm just saying that I agree with you that people shouldn't be in jail just because of a drug charge. Though I'd suspect that many are cases of 3rd strikes where the third was a drug offense but in these cases its not just because of the drug offense, its just the drug offense that was the tipping point.
Raddatatta t1_iu1vmde wrote
There are some. But there are also many where people commit other crimes because of drug related debt or money problems that are indirectly drug caused.
But I'd certainly be happy to see 40% of prisons close right there by getting those people out. And if we improved recidivism down from like 70% where it is for some crimes that would be great to see general crime going down too. I don't want fewer people in prison because they are getting away with doing bad things. But I'd certainly welcome a lot more prisons closing because of more reasonable laws with respect to drugs and making prisons actually try to get people to not commit more crimes and come back.
Unharmful_Truths t1_itzk6xm wrote
"without incidents"
*aside from hurling gas-filled cannisters into the home.
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_itzke2g wrote
I did find that part kind of funny lol
Unharmful_Truths t1_itzqbo4 wrote
Just another calm, regular night on [street]
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_iu2asg4 wrote
Punk deserved it! If he did get out, I hope that stench stays for a very long time lol.
Unharmful_Truths t1_iu404tf wrote
Here's how you punish someone: it's say... April. You go to the store and buy sour cream or cottage cheese or tapioca pudding, whatever. Something with dairy that will spoil. You go outside in your yard and you put the container inside a bucket and just leave it there. All summer. I mean until the weather breaks and it's almost winter. Then you go to their house and (I did it to a car) you cover your nose, open it up, open a window and hurl the contents into the car. That smell will never, ever come out.
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_iu40ku7 wrote
Someone's getting ready for mischief night lol.
I put a stink bomb in someone's grill once in summer. He couldn't use a.c for a week, in a heatwave
Unharmful_Truths t1_iu41qgr wrote
That is AWESOME. I feel like we would get along. I am in my 40s and confused as to why no one wants to be very quietly and patiently maniacal with me. I never was able to obtain an actual stink bomb. I just did horrible, horrible things in high school and somehow got away with all of it and never, ever got in serious trouble!
I had 134 tardies out of our 160 days of school. They called me into the headmaster's office to reprimand me. And I said, "you know, if you had any sort of punishment system for tardies I wouldn't be late." So the following year they actually had rules about tardiness and how it would affect you (we didn't have detention or anything). The year they made a policy with punishments I had 0/160.
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_iu50atd wrote
You remind me of huey Lewis and the news. Hip to be square! Lol
Unharmful_Truths t1_iu5e2q8 wrote
I listened to an episode of WTF (dislike Maron but enjoy him as an interviewer) with Huey Lewis and it was WILD. He was apparently going to become an engineer and had a full ride to MIT and was basically a genius but his parents were hippies and DEMANDED that he travel the world with no money for 1 year before entering college. While in Morocco he was broke, doing drugs and playing harmonica on the street for money when he decided to be a musician instead.
TreeEleben t1_itzdx2d wrote
The state is not aggressively prosecuting a lot of crimes. Especially failing to show up for court.
Sleight0ffHand t1_itzt3y4 wrote
This guy didn’t show up to court and they responded very aggressively….
CTrandomdude t1_iu2al61 wrote
And yet here is an example of an immediate response to not appearing in court with an arrest.
AncientBellybutton t1_iu0v3t4 wrote
Speaking of failing to show up for court, I've only gotten 3 traffic tickets in my life and all 3 times, the cop failed to show up.
But unlike everyone else in society, the cop didn't get in trouble for failing to show up to court.
abovetherafters t1_iu0zjdw wrote
I can't imagine a cop in any town showing up for court for every ticket they've written.
AncientBellybutton t1_iu2yipk wrote
It makes me wonder how many times a cop writes a ticket and it ends up being thrown out because the cop didn't show up to court...
maybe_little_pinch t1_iu1q7m0 wrote
They don't have to show up for court because their report is considered as evidence or testimony or whatever. They didn't fail to show up, they weren't required. They already documented their account in an acceptable legal fashion.
AncientBellybutton t1_iu2yae2 wrote
Well I already had a pretty good reason not to show up in court either - I didn't commit the infraction I was accused of!!
If accountability for not using your blinker is so important for me and you, why aren't cops held accountable for filing false charges?
So when does the cop get punished for wasting the court's time with a fake accusation that I could prove was fake with my dashcam?
Kolzig33189 t1_itzc9wm wrote
2.5 million bail this time has no bearing on how/why he was released for previous crimes a few years back.
Edit: meant to reply to poster who implied that because 2.5 million bail applied now, there wasn’t a problem with low/no bail back in 2018-19 for domestic crimes. Apologies.
AncientBellybutton t1_iu0uzy1 wrote
It's terrifying that they would let this guy back out onto the streets tonight just because he had a certain amount of money.
Jakmike t1_itzz30u wrote
One things for sure a message needs to be sent that all criminals won't forgot.
SouthWindsorHS2024 t1_iu0zvkg wrote
The scary part about these is there is a teacher at my school with the exact same record, he's been arrested and is banned from Charles Barrows Stem academy for crimes against a child but still teaches at my High School in South Windsor his record is even public that he has a felony now and we still see him every day teaching Spanish, the school refuses to tell us anything about it and doesn't even have him teach from home he came in the day after getting out of Jail for a felony
abovetherafters t1_iu10fd3 wrote
That's disgusting that he's still allowed to teach anywhere.
SouthWindsorHS2024 t1_iu1gyg1 wrote
I have heard that he's committed much worse than that it's scary honestly how much gets swept under the rug
an_axe_murderer666 t1_iu1kov0 wrote
Meanwhile I’m about to go to jail for a couple misdemeanors lol
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_iu2abve wrote
But you're an axe murderer. How are you even allowed internet rights?
[deleted] t1_itzxxg1 wrote
CT is soft on crime. Vote for people who will create policies that punish violent criminals
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_itzz2sl wrote
Here we go. I know what the answer is, but who should I vote for governor?
[deleted] t1_itzzez7 wrote
Whoever you think will do the best job. You've got bigger issues if you need to get advice on Reddit regarding who you should vote for.
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_iu02bpk wrote
Yeah took a cop out....
C ya
[deleted] t1_iu03f5d wrote
Cool story, bro
hmmidkmybffjill t1_iu1xuvd wrote
Considering that we just follow NY’s lead on literally everything, I guess Hochul right
red_purple_red t1_iu03f74 wrote
The answer is in the last sentence.
Least-Chip-3923 t1_iu0ndbd wrote
He's a white man, that's why he gets away with what he does
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_iu2affl wrote
It's drives me nuts when people say that. Because it's usually true
kesagatame-and-Chill t1_iu0qzfl wrote
Not exactly a rough nieghborhood.
kppeterc15 t1_iu1rygr wrote
I'm missing the part where he was "allowed to walk"
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_iu1sj5n wrote
Just look at the last three times.... not that hard...
turboda t1_iu2a727 wrote
I think ct has an early release program.
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Justinontheinternet t1_iu7clyb wrote
What a failure of our state
paulo1389 t1_iu0iab6 wrote
Red Wave is coming
bluechair2020 t1_iu248xc wrote
Which political party do we blame for this? Go!!!
Mtsteel67 t1_iu03o3x wrote
Well that is our court system.
Almost every single criminal that is arrested and does time will be back out on the street sooner or later.
I say almost because there are people doing 80 plus years behind bars that will never get out.
Also with our court system let's say a guy kidnaps and rapes a woman.
He gets arrested for 1st degree kidnap and rape and should be looking at say 20 years behind bars -(Mind you the amount of years is a rough estimate). Typical his lawyer plea bargains it down to 2nd degree and he only gets 10 years behind bars.
Then he takes programs and other such things behind bars, doesn't get in trouble and he is out on parole after say 5 or 6 years sometimes quicker.
Everyone should be able to get a second chance except for certain crimes that are just reprehensible.
Commit a serious crime 2nd time, time behind bars should be doubled.
3rd time, quadrupled time behind bars.
4th time, life in prison.
And if it's really serious, death.
GoPikachuGo1 t1_iu0864k wrote
Except you're forgetting the systemic racism plaguing our criminal justice system. You're going to be disproportionately quadrupling the sentence of young minority offenders...
Mtsteel67 t1_iu0dj97 wrote
Buzz words like systemic racism are elicited to get a emotional response to ignore facts.
Race plays no part in criminals behavior except for crimes where one race targets another simple for their skin color.
Does it matter what color you are if you drink and drive and up end crashing and hurting or killing another person?
Does it matter what color you are if you commit a armed robbery against another person?
Does it matter what color you are if you commit rape, murder, etc...?
You commit a crime against another person I don't care what color you are, you are a criminal that should be put in prison.
GoPikachuGo1 t1_iu0vj9p wrote
"Buzz words like systemic racism"
Because systemic racism isn't a real thing, right? Just used to get an emotional response? MAYBE THIS IS WHY PEOPLE THINK YOU'RE RACIST.
Everything you listed DOES matter, to PROSECUTORS, JUDGES and THE POLICE. People of color are incarcerated at higher rates then white people, this is a FACT.
Mtsteel67 t1_iu4aich wrote
"Because systemic racism isn't a real thing, right? Just used to get an emotional response? MAYBE THIS IS WHY PEOPLE THINK YOU'RE RACIST."
I'm not the one that brought color into it
Why do I say that? Oh I don't know maybe because you don't know What color I am. I might be black, brown, white, hell I might be purple.
But you immediately assume the worst.
Maybe take a look at the facts such as who is committing the higher percentage of crime.
Then to break that down further look at each state.
But nope that doesn't matter because it's SYSTEMIC RACISM!!!!!!!
Grow the fuck up and just stop it.
like I said, criminals are criminals doesn't matter what color they are if they are committing crimes.
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_iu2an1x wrote
This is white guy on white woman crime. Gtfo with your systemic racism crap. Use that on the threads about how test scores went down....
Now sit down...
GoPikachuGo1 t1_iu2at2r wrote
You're dismissed. The world has no place for bigots.
ObiWan_Cannoli_ t1_iu0ptiq wrote
Lmao buzzwords like “systemic racism” jesus christ man your privilege is showing
Mtsteel67 t1_iu4b0sf wrote
Really, oh wow didn't know I had privilege. So what exactly is this privilege?
On the other hand, never mind because someone that throws that word around is just a attention seeking grown up child at the end of the day that has no clue what life is about.
Maybe some day you will be a real boy
ObiWan_Cannoli_ t1_iu4l43f wrote
Go to bed grandpa
Mtsteel67 t1_iu6m5l8 wrote
"Go to bed grandpa"
LOL, that the best you have?
I will take experience over youth any day of the week
ObiWan_Cannoli_ t1_iu6n50b wrote
Okay, don’t forget to take your friday pills
Mtsteel67 t1_iu6t39j wrote
I don't do drugs, not good for the body or mind.
Been interesting, well not really.
enjoy the weekend
IBroughtMySoapbox t1_itznltx wrote
He sent harassing phone calls and text messages to a woman who had a restraining order against him and he pushed a woman up against a wall. Yes he should be prosecuted for these acts but apparently some people believe that we should lock this guy up and throw away the key? Jesus fucking Christ
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_itzorai wrote
This was the third time.
Or do you want to wait until the victim dies or is seriously hurt next time?
IBroughtMySoapbox t1_itzpnmb wrote
I know it’s terrible what he did and no I don’t condone it but in order to live in a free society we can’t hold people indefinitely without bail for pushing someone up against the wall. It sucks but it’s one of those things that comes along with freedom. The minute we start presuming people guilty instead of innocent is the minute we become authoritarian. The justice system is not perfect but if we don’t allow it to work as intended the consequences are catastrophic
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_itzpx58 wrote
He has repeatedly harassed this victim. Since 2018.
What more do you want? It's called recidivism.
IBroughtMySoapbox t1_iu04pm8 wrote
Why wasn’t he convicted of harassing the victim? Why did the victim obtain a protective order and not a restraining order? The answers to these two questions are that there was not enough evidence to support doing so, yet you want this guy buried under the prison. There are countries that operate their justice system in that fashion and they are not pleasant places to live
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_iu05opx wrote
After violating the protective orders three times, you're not seeing an issue here?
Ok.....
IBroughtMySoapbox t1_iu0ihtu wrote
I can only go by the information I have and from this poorly written article I see that in the past he’s been arrested for violating a protective order but I don’t see where he was convicted of violating a protective order, so I don’t know if he actually ever did violate a protective order, I only know that someone accused him of doing so. And again, going by the information that I have, I believe that he should be arrested, which he was, and I believe that he should be brought in front of a judge, which he will be. I guess where you and me have a difference of opinion is that I don’t believe that we should skip past his right to due process and imprison him for an indefinite period of time before he’s had a chance to mount a defense. I don’t care if the man is accused of molesting children while kicking kittens and stealing from the poor, if you deny that person’s right to due process then you no longer live in a free country. That’s a hard no from me
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_iu0jpyx wrote
Look up Neil S Bhatia on Google. You will see the string of arrests he had, starting in 2018. You can search the court records if you choose (I did), but its quite confusing between his conviction of violating a protective order, and the slew of pending cases he has against him.
I have the day off, so I searched this. But dont just take it from me. Here is a link to the court website (you may need to input his name):
https://www.jud2.ct.gov/crdockets/parm1.aspx
I am all for due process. its our right. But I am also a firm believer that if you violate the laws (depending on the severity), we need to be careful to allow you a third try.
IBroughtMySoapbox t1_iu0liwf wrote
I checked his court records and I see zero convictions for violating a protective order so it is factually incorrect to say that this person violated a protective order three times. I cannot tell you how catastrophic it would be for our society if we started treating arrests as convictions
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_iu0m7xl wrote
Hmm.... violating a condition of release.... arrest date July 18, 2018, and judging by the articles, that was incident where they arrested him for sending harassing messages to the victim. All kinda makes sense to me.....
But you do you. I can put two and two together....
IBroughtMySoapbox t1_iu0nsqc wrote
I love how you’re trying to gaslight me into believing that I’m defending the guy just because I refuse to convict him off of a newspaper article. You and people who share your thought process are the reason why innocent men are in prison
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_iu0oeyc wrote
Gaslight how?
I am sharing the information with you of this gentleman's history. I respect you may be busy. I respect you want to give him due dilligence. If, after providing you with all there is, you still don't see what's wrong here, that's fine.
I am not the reason why innocent men are in person. I am just trying to avoid another tragedy based on ones repeat offenses against protective orders, and their history of domestic abuse. Both of which this gentleman has clearly demonstrated based solely on actions.
IBroughtMySoapbox t1_iu11ra8 wrote
You’re not judging the man’s actions, you’re jumping to conclusions about what his actions were. He was arrested for violating a protective order and the case was adjudicated and a conviction was never secured. That means that this man never violated a protective order. But you keep repeating that he’s violated a protective order three times. You choose to believe that someone is guilty of a crime because they were arrested for it even after the charges were dropped in a court of law, it’s preposterous. This is exactly how innocent men go to jail, people like you sit on a jury and disregard all of the evidence thinking that the police would never arrest the wrong man
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_iu13wc4 wrote
Wow you really can't read that stuff huh. It says clearly under his convictions. But you want to defend him. Police arresting the wrong man? Wow. Lol. Omg im laughing really hard right now reading this lol. Seriously stop roflmao. Too damn funny
Keep defending a bad guy lol. Go ahead....
Roflmao, arrest the wrong man who was clearly with his victim when police showed up lol. Omfg....
I'm rolling....
IBroughtMySoapbox t1_iu18lf7 wrote
So we’re back to the gaslighting?
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_iu1a2z7 wrote
You're cracking me up! Stop it lol. Roflmao. Hahahaha
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_iu0nran wrote
Also, here is what happened in CA.
1 year of anger management. Domestic abuse charge. Recidivism is real here:
https://drblookupportal.judiciary.state.nj.us/DocumentHandler.ashx?document_id=1099392
IBroughtMySoapbox t1_iu12f7w wrote
He was convicted of misdemeanor battery for hitting his wife in the face with a loaf of bread. Take this guy out back and shoot him already 🙄
Best-Raise-2523 t1_itzoo7n wrote
Yea if you read closely I wonder if he was ever found guilty of those things. It’s not difficult to take out a protective order against someone.
This screams custody battle where both parents acting shitty.
IBroughtMySoapbox t1_itzqiql wrote
You make a great point that I missed, I thought he violated a restraining order and not a protective order. There’s a lot in this case that indicates a “he said, she said“ situation. I’m not saying it is and the guy is probably guilty but trying to hold this guy without bail is preposterous
Best-Raise-2523 t1_itztebe wrote
Yea think about it. Lady can’t get full custody so she gets a protective order. He calls “gimme the kids because it’s my turn” in a mr angry eyes voice and all of a sudden an infantry unit shows up at his house to throw him in jail.
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_itzyihl wrote
Ok. Both very good points. He was found guilty in 2020 of violation of condition of release. He was sentenced to jail for 1 year (but execution suspended).
He also had a protective order in California.
Tbh. The ct system is kinda screwy. He also seems to have pending cases too from an incident in 2020....
Point is, it seems to be repetitive and potentially a bigger issue. Imo, any level headed dude will not be going through this nonsense. Courts come in and settle this crap. Unless you tell me there's an issue with family courts (which wouldn't surprise me).
I'm just having flashbacks to Jennifer dulos...
Best-Raise-2523 t1_itzocom wrote
A platoon of cops for violating a protective order and a threatening phone call??
Give me a break.
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_itzounx wrote
I can't disagree there. May have been overboard.
WhatsWithThisKibble t1_iu008j3 wrote
DV calls are one of the most, if not the most, dangerous calls for police officers.
Ctoffroad t1_itznhi9 wrote
Thank all the progressive prosecutors and law makers that want to socialy experiment with the legal system. Can think of them everytime another innocent victim randomly gets assaulted in the street or pushed into a train track with a criminal that was just let out on a no bail release. The defund movement didn't work out and now they are just going to let all the violent criminal out. As much as I'd rather not live in Bible thumping state down south I'd rather have a state that takes crime seriously and supports law enforcement.
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_itznvj1 wrote
What the fuck are you talking about? This guy was able to post bail three times in the past.
Stop with the fucking politics. There's a bigger problem here. Doesn't matter what side you are on .
Ctoffroad t1_iu07v15 wrote
That's the point!!! why was he able to post bail three times? What do you think because he is so convincing or charming-lmao
No it is because of whatever progressive lenient DA and judge and the current laws!! If you wanna stick ur head in the sand and not face the facts because it goes against your idealistic views then go ahead...
And i am very progressive on many things. I am pro choice, very pro enviroment, equal rights etc. But crime I am very conservative because I want my family safe! I don't want a family member being assaulted or raped because the laws are pro-criminal as they are right now and some repeat violent offender is not locked up! Which is happening nonestop right now because we are doing this new social experiment that is clearly not working.
You know you don't have to think one way or another and be just democrat or conservative on every view as the politicians want. You can think for yourself thats still allowed.
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_iu08vxu wrote
Yeah thats my issue. Thanks for repeating it...m
Ctoffroad t1_iu0c6wk wrote
Sorry man but after you throw out the f bomb a few times in such a outrage to my comment I felt I should reexplain my thoughts.
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_iu0cpgh wrote
While I should be thankful that this guy was taken into custody, and no one was hurt, I am a bit angered at the possibility this guy can go on a rampage and potentially hurt the victim more.
Legislators did pass Jennifer Law last year. But its not enough in my opinion. And other users have brought up good points (custody battles, he-said/she-said, etc). But any reasonable guy would know not to violate a protective/restraining order. This guy has done it three times, and its concerning.
Ill apologize my vulgarity. I wont apologize for avoiding making this a political statement. You and I both acknowledge a potential flaw. lets address it with our legislators.
Ctoffroad t1_iu0edpo wrote
I apprecite the apology thank you. The reality is that it is a political issue right now so yeah where else should we talk about it? And why would we just address only with legislators and not discuss it on a public forum where the current topic is about a criminal that was let lose? Again i urge to do some research as to what is happening right now with the current pro criminal movement and the many procriminal laws that are getting made everyday in progressive areas of the country. This isn't a isolated incident based on laws only with protective/restraining orders. This is a current movement that is very much procriminal view point currently. And i agree lets address it with legislators that if you are for keeping violent criminals locked and against the current progressive movement putting criminals rights over the safety of victims.
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_iu0famq wrote
Fine. you got me. politicians make laws. Domestic abuse was addressed with Jennifers law. But why wasn't it addressed here?
Ive done research on it. I have reviewed what they were pushing (shifting from throw them in jail to providing social safety nets). I do agree with aspects of it. But this doesn't apply here. This isn't some dude from Bridgeport who was raised without a father. This is an educated male, who is well off in his $10,000 a month apartment in an affluent neighborhood. This can potentially be a repeat of Jennifer Dulos. It needs to stop.
Knineteen t1_itzxxxa wrote
Who is setting bail then?
And how have you come to the conclusion that the penalties handed down for his prior convictions were just and fair?
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_itzyrod wrote
On the contrary. I think after the second time this should have been handled swiftly. Stop allowing perps to continually violate protective orders....
Knineteen t1_itzz3lo wrote
I don’t think you answered either of my questions.
You can’t chastise someone for making it political while simultaneously providing absolutely no evidence of your own that it ISN’T political.
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_iu026mg wrote
Look up the court records. I don't know who sets bail. All I know is this dude has continously violates a protective order, allegedly assaulted the victim, and who knows what else, and is still released. It's wrong.
And I got some ass clown saying "vote red" or "it's democrats faults" without providing one shred of evidence.
I'm not making this political. I'm making this right v wrong.
Ctoffroad t1_iu09uob wrote
It's happening all over right now with progressive prosecutors and judges!! This isn't some isolated incident!! Look in California, Chicago, NYC at the laws that are all getting made procriminal right now. Hell a cop can no longer chase a criminal in Chicago because of some progressive ideas about being unfair or some other progressive view point! I can give a million other new procriminal laws that all come from progressive law makers. Again do just a little research about what is happening right now. Everything is anti cop full on pro criminal right now.
Trust me it isn't some redneck conservative republican that is making these laws!! Again I know this goes against people's idealistic views that want to see things in a different light but if you wanna see things in color need to face reality.
Knineteen t1_iu0ifcq wrote
Enough double talk already. Malloy’s criminal justice reform made it possible for juvenile’s to steal multiple cars in a single night while getting arrested in between each theft.
PS - Malloy was voted into office.
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_iu0iyum wrote
Great. Wonderful. I don't care. Lamont signed Jennifers law. WTF is your point?
You think this guy still deserves to walk. I ask, why? If you had a protective order against you, would you continue to violate it after your first arrest? Would you continue sending harassing messages to the person who doesn't want you to contact them? Would you?
Knineteen t1_iu0j5zz wrote
You must have ADHD. I’ll stop now.
Jawaka99 t1_itzkgj9 wrote
Because we live in a 6th chance society now. Nobody's held responsible for their actions. The criminals are the real victims. Hell, they're closing the prisons. Buckle up people, its going to be exciting.
TheOkayestName t1_itz9sio wrote
There’s nothing wrong with the law. There is no crime. Ned said so!
MyDogIsACoolCat t1_itzdouq wrote
You sound like everyone’s deadbeat uncle
TheOkayestName t1_itzlnll wrote
Ned’s my uncle
MyDogIsACoolCat t1_itzmwxq wrote
Ned possesses your uncle?
TheOkayestName t1_itzqufm wrote
Are you having trouble reading? Ned is my uncle.
MyDogIsACoolCat t1_itztc8o wrote
Fucking lol.
TheOkayestName t1_iu0odn5 wrote
You sound fun at parties.
MyDogIsACoolCat t1_iu0zm97 wrote
ur big dumb.
TheOkayestName t1_iu109af wrote
Is your dog really a cool cat?
CT_Patriot t1_itz6ce9 wrote
Liberal DA. Cashless bail.
That's why ..
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_itzff0s wrote
75k bond in 2018...
Then he did it again in July of 2018.
This is not liberal vs conservative. This is a failure of CT legal system. And needs to be addressed. Take your shitty politics elsewhere.
gohabssaydre t1_itz7g4i wrote
I thought he was probably just a cop
silasmoeckel t1_itz9iu0 wrote
Looks like lawyer
greenbeings t1_itzaqn5 wrote
Except it says there's $2.5m bail...
Mr_Smith_411 t1_itzc05y wrote
That bail is this time. The question was how WAS he allowed to walk? So, was there bail the last time?
AncientBellybutton t1_iu0vc7s wrote
If this guy is truly as dangerous as they claim he is, why would any amount of money make them comfortable with letting him back out onto the streets????
pinktwillshirt t1_itzbker wrote
If he had also worked for a hedge fund and abused kids in Epstein's apartment apart from domestic violence, this will not be in the news. Some criminals are dumb.
RetLeoSECT t1_itzdjko wrote
Bingo
dumbthrow33 t1_itzdxof wrote
You know it’s the reason by the amount of downvotes he’s getting…. Remember, when liberals hear things they don’t like or are blatantly wrong they scream over or silence the opposing viewpoints.
AdHistorical7107 OP t1_itzkba5 wrote
I've had that experience with plenty of republicans....
dumbthrow33 t1_iu0d05f wrote
It’s not relegated to one party or idea I see both sides doing it.
Shmeves t1_itzir9t wrote
Projection much?
dumbthrow33 t1_iu08zrg wrote
… I forgot whataboutism, thank you for reminding me
Shmeves t1_iu0c6i7 wrote
What I don’t understand is where you get screaming and Blatantly wrong from? I’m just dumbfounded at how dumb people are I guess, just makes no sense.
djciar02 t1_itzpm9s wrote
welcome to r/Connecticut
[deleted] t1_itzpx2i wrote
Democrats r called hypocrites for a reason.
dumbthrow33 t1_iu0edet wrote
Don’t think republicans are all halos and candy either lmao
CT_Patriot t1_itzowuo wrote
☝️ THIS ☝️
urbanevol t1_itz8404 wrote
Unfortunately ouor legal system does not take domestic violence very seriously until someone (usually a woman) ends up dead or seriously hurt. The protections for victims are rather weak, even with restraining orders and the like.