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itsmills420 t1_itqbipw wrote

Time for a little winter game in my house how long can I go without running my heat 😩

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gatogrande t1_itqcwqe wrote

Middle last week, when it was 30s? You didn't flip it on in the am?!

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Likeapuma24 t1_itqmk5i wrote

Wood stove for the win! Last year, I think we only used one tank of oil over the winter. Of course, "just one tank" this year is essentially an entire paycheck.

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itsmills420 t1_itqd5p1 wrote

Technically I guess, I've got a plug In radiator I keep in my bathroom with the shower. That's my retreat when I wake up. Usually after that I can go down dressed get my coffee and I'm good ahahahah bathrooms not huge so the small unit gets it pretty toasty

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shaunben17 t1_itqq6gx wrote

It came on automatically. It’s like a quiet click— heard it two rooms away. It woke me up out of a dead sleep and couldn’t get my eyes closed again.

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Ziggy1433 t1_itqosea wrote

I don't care whether we're first, second or tenth. We pay far too much for energy here and the controlling agencies just keep giving the utilities increases.

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virtualchoirboy t1_itq7eo8 wrote

While I believe the conclusion they come to is accurate, I find it difficult to trust an attempted fact check of "Northeast utility rates" when the article author immediately starts talking about national rates.

I did a little digging and CT is just barely 2nd in the Northeast behind MA for electricity. For gas, we're 2nd behind ME. For water rates, we look to be 2nd behind NJ. If you stick to just "New England" and exclude NY/NJ, CT has the highest water rate.

So, we're not the lowest, we're not the highest, but we're close to the highest. Both politicians are lying.

You want further proof, just look at them. Are their lips moving? Then they're trying to mislead you.

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hard-time-on-planet t1_itrsesv wrote

> when the article author immediately starts talking about national rates.

The author talks about national rates in response to the Stefanowski claim "Connecticut has the highest utility rates in the country."

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virtualchoirboy t1_itrtckr wrote

The author ONLY talks about national rates with respect to BOTH claims. They never limited it to just Northeast which is what Lamont's claim was supposedly about.

And as I said, their conclusion is still accurate, it's just that their "proof" isn't looking at an appropriately limited set of facts.

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lokitdwn t1_itq7bbd wrote

I could of told you he was lying solely off my Eversource bill

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apothecarynow t1_itt3phl wrote

Eversource standard rate is currently 0.22 in NH. Much higher than currently in CT. But might see a jump in Nov when the rates are updated.

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Johnny_Appleweed t1_itq89vm wrote

What’s the context for Lamont’s statement? When did he say it and what else did he say?

Not like it would be a shock if he was wrong about utility rates, but I’m also not about to take anything Stefanowski says in an ad at face value after the dishonest bullshit about property taxes in his other ads.

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hard-time-on-planet t1_itsbgv8 wrote

The article was later updated with a response from the Lamont campaign

> Officials with the Lamont campaign said their claims were based in part on savings that resulted from agreements the state has to by power generated New England's two remaining nuclear power plants, Millstone in Waterford and Seabrook in New Hampshire.

> Campaign officials, however, were unable to cite how much of an impact reduced costs for the power generated by nuclear plants had on the overall per kilowatt hour cost that Connecticut consumer pay overall for power. The majority of the electricity generated by power plants in New England comes from generating units that run on natural gas, so the cost per kilowatt hour is a combination of nuclear and natural gas costs

> The Lamont campaign also cited Connecticut's long standing practice of purchasing power using multiple auctions to determine the electric rates that consumers pay, thereby protecting them from price spikes

I didn't notice any additions to the article that added any more of Lamont's original quote. And googling I couldn't find it.

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DarkDeSantis t1_itqglb4 wrote

Lol, yeah, we're not the highest...Alaska (basically Russia) and Hawaii (literally an island) have higher - This sub any time this argument is brought out

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Screaming_brain t1_itr0hyl wrote

What's the GOPs plan to lower utilities?

Oh that's right. Fucking nothing but tell you to "stop being poor" and "pick yourself up by your bootstraps".

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hwheels24 t1_itr9e9w wrote

Check out Bob’s website and find out for yourself, or are you just assuming?

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PaulWalkerCGIFace t1_itrezxx wrote

I'm not a Republican but I am sick of tribalism in politics, he has a plan laid out right on his website

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Screaming_brain t1_itrkhtn wrote

Separate Pura and appoint his own "industry experts".

Sure.

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Spooky2000 t1_itrt3mn wrote

Well, PURA has approved just about everything Eversource has put out. Not sure how people can still look at them like they are trying to help us out in any way.

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Screaming_brain t1_itrw9fh wrote

The lie is he won't, and in all likelihood can't eliminate PURA. This is what happens where you deregulate to "open the state to competition". FYI, the lie started in 1998 under Rowland when electricity was high.

https://www.cga.ct.gov/2002/olrdata/et/rpt/2002-R-0541.htm#:~:text=Connecticut%20adopted%20legislation%20in%20May1998,to%20choose%20their%20electric%20suppliers.&text=The%20act%20allowed%20consumers%20in,as%20of%20July%201%2C%202000.

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CoarsePage t1_ituahqv wrote

The candidate who came to my door wants to dissolve Pura and restore deal making with the legislature and then somehow get lower rates. No plan to build more generation, no plan to get more people solar panels. Also can't deal with electric cars.

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AhbabaOooMaoMao t1_itqjm1i wrote

I find this quote suspect.

Shitty journalism not to at least include a citation or link to the original quote so that readers can get the context if they want it. It would be good journalism for the author to include the full context.

What's my saying that Connecticut has the lowest rates out of the New England states or the New England has the lowest rates generally out of the whole country?

There's really no way to discern what this quote is supposed to be without any other context. The article does not even attempt to clarify the fact that the quote could be taken in more than one way.

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HighJeanette t1_itqyn1o wrote

Close but no, Hawaii does but we are the third highest

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[deleted] t1_itqthcv wrote

We literally have the lowest in the northeast. This is easily searched on google. Stefanowski is a fucking liar.

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[deleted] t1_itrzbdq wrote

Edit: fine, I’ll hold your hands for you

New Hampshire- 19.04
Maine-20.4-23.3
Vermont- 19.53
Massachusetts-21.88
Rhode Island-14.4
Connecticut- 12.07

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Preference-Still t1_itt7tjr wrote

Based on the numbers you gave, it seems you’re only looking at Eversource CT’s supply rate with the 12.07. You need to factor in the delivery rates as well. Especially since you seemed to use other states supply + delivery charges in your numbers…

I recommend looking at the reports the EIA puts out. Their report is more comprehensive and should include the many different utilities across the states in it. I linked it below. As you can see, CT is near the higher end for electric rates in the Northeast as of August 2022.

https://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.php?t=epmt_5_6_a

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