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flatdanny t1_iy8jn3d wrote

Reply to comment by BeadyEyedThieves in FBI working with Norwich police to investigate targeted hate messages toward Sikh community by BeerJunky

Dont believe in statistics?

Prove him wrong. We're gonna need a source.

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BeadyEyedThieves t1_iy8mzu0 wrote

I don't believe in contrived statistics, no. If you like meaningful statistics, go check out Israel's or Australia's covid metrics. They split out hospitilizations and deaths by vaccination status on a weekly basis.

For the week of 10/15/22 NSW reported 2 unvaccinated deaths, and no hospitilizations for that group. All vaccinated groups accounted for 231 hospitilizations and 33 deaths. Of course, older people are more likely to be vaccinated and they should be overrepresented in that regard. But all that suggests is that old/sick people die of this disease at best. At worst it suggests that it doesn't help those that need it to help them, and the others simply don't need it!

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Pages/weekly-reports.aspx

Looks through any of these weeks and see who is represented in hospitilizations and deaths by their vaccination status. It's all in line with the above.

The evidence doesn't even come close to supporting that it prevents either. Anyone arguing otherwise just doesn't want to look at the evidence and would rather protect the team that they've been rooting for.

But please, tell me more about how I don't believe statistics, when I'm presenting you government approved statistics that strongly suggests the vaccine does not prevent hospitalization or transmission. I think it's you, my friend.

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flatdanny t1_iya7kci wrote

Covid death rates are higher among Republicans than Democrats, mounting evidence shows

>Average excess death rates in Florida and Ohio were 76% higher among Republicans than Democrats from March 2020 to December 2021, according to a working paper released last month by the National Bureau of Economic Research. Excess deaths refers to deaths above what would be anticipated based on historical trends.

>A study in June published in Health Affairs similarly found that counties with a Republican majority had a greater share of Covid deaths through October 2021, relative to majority-Democratic counties.

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flatdanny t1_iy8x7sm wrote

> The evidence doesn't even come close to supporting that it prevents either.

Show me where vaccines were hyped to "prevent covid." They never were. The pitch was that if you caught covid, your symptoms would most likely be less severe.

A lot of non vaxxed people suffered from the Herman Cain syndrome, and died due to their infections, weakened by comorbidity.

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BuckNastysMamma t1_iy9inc1 wrote

Lol I hate people who use actual statistics out of context to try to spin a narrative.

Looking at just the most recent ones, either 0 or 1 of the deaths per week were people under the age of 65. Also unless I am missing it, it doesn't mention if that under 65 was vaccinated or not. We've known for a while that the 65+ age group are considered as "high risk" when it comes to COVID-19. There was a strong push for those aged 65 and up, those who are immunocompromised or those who have comorbidities to get the vaccine.

People 65 and older are more likely to have serious health concerns when it comes to COVID or other health issues in general. It's no surprise that people in this age group are dying more, regardless of vaccination status.

The bullshit you're spewing right now is a classic case of "correlation does not equal causation" and if you don't understand what that means that maybe go dO sOmE mOrE rEsEaRcH.

Edit: Their account is suspended, lmao. Wonder why!

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