Submitted by [deleted] t3_z69v8c in Connecticut
In the past week I have been to 4 different stores and all of them have groups of teams / cheerleaders etc out front asking for donations so they can go to Orlando for a competition. They basically block the entrance and the moms worh them are even worse . Who has cash any more ? I saw one old guy who clearly could not afford it put 5 bucks in their bucket. Thoughts on these type of things ? Don’t people just pay their own way ? Why the begging ?
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To be more clear , the older gentleman is a guy I’ve know since I was younger and know he’s surviving on SS only . I guess I just don’t shop a lot or haven’t seen so many at once . Not hating on anyone particular, I think it’s all bad .
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Right . It doesn’t make sense to me either . Thanks
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Oh that . I understand it , don’t agree with it the way it’s being done where I was . A bunch of young girls and their moms drinking 6 dollar lattes driving 50k SUV’s asking for strangers to donate so they can go to Disney . Read that again and see if you understand. If that makes sense to you then we can’t be friends .
Not everyone on that team is as fortunate as what you are perceiving as wealth. Without those fundraisers, there are plenty of people on those teams who would never be able to afford such experiences.
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So only the rich kids can go? Fundraising is so everyone can go.
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This^
"I saw an old guy who clearly could not afford" is not equal to an a older guy I know who lives off ss donated. Nice try but busted
Clearly just making up bullshit now that you’ve been called out.
Maybe some of the people on the team can’t afford to pay their own way so the team is helping them raise money? Just walk around them lol
I did this when I played high school football. We couldn't afford jerseys without the donations.
That's surprising, and sucks.
Mostly on Sundays by me. They're not obnoxious and I just walk on by. I think it's bs and they should pay their own way. If they have a car wash I'll do that though because they are actually doing something for the money.
Perv
He didn’t say they had to be topless, TOP LESS! Once you get in the studio you’ll do it.
Watching teenagers in bakinis wet and soapy is pervy
What chore prawblem? Ya nevah happy!
Am I missing a reference
This ain’t Hot Rod Magazine pal!
It smells like Mambo in here
Scores man! I’m about meeting guys and girls! Scores man
If you don't want to contribute, don't.
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I’d rather that than fake homeless people begging
You “saw” a guy and you can tell whether or not he could afford to donate five bucks. Really ?
You came on the Internet to bitch about kids collecting money so that they can travel for a team sport.
Really ?
At least the Boy Scouts do bottle recycling drives... why should healthy young people need charity to raise money? These girls have no skills to capitalize on?
Such a silly and small hearted gripe.
Why did it bother you so much? Just ignore them, it’s not that deep I promise you
internet grifter and beggar culture comes to the real world, everybody wants to socialize their costs onto others and take all the benefits for themselves then claim it's fair or acceptable; like who approves them sitting in front of the store entrance and begging...? but hey I always end up being the bad guy asking off-limits questions.... edit - why can't the parents/school/ngos pool their money for them? is there actually a cheerleading competition in orlando? did they make the cut? or do they just want a trip to orlando on everyone else's dollar? so many questions....
This type of thing existed long before the internet…
yes but just because it existed before the internet doesn't mean it isn't more pervasive, normalized or sadly more acceptable now; I don't know why certain groups of people simply demanding money to stop inconveniencing strangers is acceptable or complaining about it is frowned upon
>why can't the parents/school/ngos pool their money for them
Because people don't approve tax increases to cover.
many towns have more tax revenue due to higher property valuations and greater property tax receipts despite statutory rates not changing; parents and ngos monies are in dependent of taxes, further towns should have some budget item, earmarked or not, to help fund these things; I'm not against them fundraising for it, there are just so many better options than begging strangers
Increasing property values doesn’t change town tax revenues at all. The budget is set and the mill rate is then just a division of values by budget. If values are up, the mill rate goes down. In and of itself it doesn’t change the absolute revenue at all.
I give to the Salvation Army bell ringers, thats about it
I'm not gonna criticize you for giving to anybody in need but there are more inclusive charities out there.
What do you mean? Is salvation army bad? I seriously dont understand
The Salvation Army has a pretty well documented history of denying help to queer people. They've officially changed their stance on the matter but I'm not sure if their course correction has actually been demonstrated by their work
Holy crap. I really had no idea.
Yeah no problem, like i said I'm not criticizing you personally for giving to people in need, that would be absurd and counterproductive. Thank you for feeling compelled to give.
Was that just a reasonable and calm discourse on Reddit? I think you both need to leave!
Your username reminds me of the Lizzie Borden bed and breakfast, which was one of the first touristy things i did when i first moved to ct. It was fuckin weird lol. Memorable though, this was in like 2007.
Fall river MA. Done that tour a few times. Got family out that way
Yes . Totally different .
Beggars for the homophobia agenda.
What do you mean? I seriously dont know.
Because cheerleading is not considered a sport. If it were a sport the state would run competitions fund it etc. As it currently stands, they win anything local they need to pay their way to Disney for competition.
I think OP is wondering the current world seems to look at donation as entitlement.
If it was a sport they would not need to solicit donations nearly as much. Pretty much those donations are going to the organizing bodys profits when the kids just want to compete.
Sad for the kids. I don't understand why it's the shoppers' problem tho. They can ask for money and those that have it will give it to them but cornering people at the entrance of a place they're at to buy food.....which is already way overpriced these days, is a little much, don't you think?
I'm not excusing bad manners though would say that reflects the state of the sport from the top on down, far to many of those sorts of moms involved. Would rather have my daughter politely asking for donations at a grocery store than the wink wink nudge nudge car washes anyday.
OP isn't saying anything about polite requests for donations. So, I guess we're on the same page. I think it's very wrong when parents let their kids grow up with a feeling of entitlement. In our days, it was over their own money while today's kids are being brought up with a sense of entitlement to others money
Um, what? All sports need to fundraise. It's not just cheerleaders out there. Schools almost never pay for travel and such to out of state competitions directly.
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But more to the point, what does whether it's a sport or not matter? If it was a band fundraising would it be any different?
Meaning they have to fundraise a lot more than say the football team.
Pedophile Tax
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Ignore them?