Viewing a single comment thread. View all comments

Strat7855 t1_ixbjx3n wrote

Reply to comment by TheOkayestName in Vehicle pursuit, Hartford, with AR15, just crashed by guesthost1999

Guns ain't drugs. People enmeshed in the criminal element will likely still be able to find them, but the mentally ill who become mass shooters only get their hands on these weapons because society allows them to. And for criminals, why make it easy for them?

Home invasions are exceedingly rare. Your insecurities aren't justification for public policy that costs lives.

And anyways, if you're using a rifle to defend your house you're doing it wrong.

2

Soggy_Affect6063 t1_ixbl7k3 wrote

“Home invasions are exceedingly rare. Your insecurities aren't justification for public policy that costs lives.”

TF are you talking about? There was a home invasion at gun point that happened TODAY.

https://www.wfsb.com/video/2022/11/21/police-people-including-child-held-gunpoint-salisbury-home-invasion/

11

CaptainSolo80 t1_ixbn5fx wrote

Don’t worry I’m sure that guy’s baseball bat will work great against an armed crack head.

Guns ain’t drugs?! Drugs are the number one reason why criminals kill, to get more of/protect their drugs.

So let me get this straight this guys arguments are “criminals will always be able to get guns, so let’s disarm citizens, because helping the mentally ill is too complex.” And “At least that mentality ill Person won’t kill as many people”

That last one is the most smooth brained shit I hear all the time.

How about figuring out ways to help mentally Ill people so they don’t wanna kill anyone?!?

Okay you ban guns, what is stopping that mentally ill person that wants to kill as many people as possible from building a bomb or running over a crowd of people with their car?

You have to commit a crime to get a gun if you’re not suppose to have one, whether it be buying a stolen one off the street or lying on the background check about your mental health history. I’ll say it again banning guns won’t just make criminals and ill people disappear, you need to help them at the source of their frustration but that’s a harder issue no one wants to address…

There are Europeans countries with more relaxed gun laws then American, and they don’t all wanna shoot up schools or commit drive bys law abiding citizens in Switzerland can buy and own brand new fully automatic machine guns.

There’s a reason why the major American cities with the strictest gun laws still have the HIGHEST murder rate.

3

Strat7855 t1_ixbn2ax wrote

Burglaries in 2021 happened a rate of 154 incidents per population of 100,000. And that's all burglaries, of all property types, of all occupancies, armed assailants and otherwise.

BuT iT hApPeNeD tOdAy is not a cogent response to the point I was making. Again, your emotions don't justify bad policy.

−1

TheOkayestName t1_ixbnv84 wrote

It happened today proved that it happened. Today. Your crimeless utopia fell flat there bud.

−3

Strat7855 t1_ixbogrs wrote

You've passed "willful ignorance" and are rounding the corner into "suspected learning disability."

Yes, armed home invasions do happen. They are exceedingly rare. One could be happening in my home, right now, as I type this, and it would have no bearing on how often they do or do not occur. Do you understand that?

That you're fixated on a single instance indicates an emotional response, not one rooted in reality. I prefer my public policy based on facts.

5

Soggy_Affect6063 t1_ixbpcht wrote

Great. Then we agree. One instance is not a call for an emotional response or the enactment of bad policy. So if a shooting happens, it’s not a call for a ban on guns because “it would have no bearing on how often they do or do not occur.” Thank you.

7

AhbabaOooMaoMao t1_ixcdxpt wrote

You're talking with a top contender for the dumbest person on this subreddit. Like shocking, special, almost exquisite level of stupid.

0

TheOkayestName t1_ixe2ppy wrote

Do you have autism!

1

-Gaunter-O-Dimm t1_ixe8rja wrote

Serious question, I’ve noticed lots of other users accusing you of blocking them for seemingly civil comments but you haven’t blocked this one user who I always see you having this weird autism beef with. What’s the story there?

1

TheOkayestName t1_ixebymf wrote

He asked me, out of no where and completely random & out of context, if I had autism once.

1

AhbabaOooMaoMao t1_ixh957b wrote

It's obvious why I asked you.

1

TheOkayestName t1_ixhnuy1 wrote

How so?

1

AhbabaOooMaoMao t1_ixhs7zc wrote

C'mon. Don't be obtuse.

I've personally explained anecdotal evidence to you like five times and I've seen other people do it many more.

Yet every day you still post the same sort of dummy arguments based on anecdotes.

That's a serious cognitive or social abnormality.

1

AlphaSlayer21 t1_ixc1mqt wrote

An AR is an excellent home defense weapon what are you talking about

7

AhbabaOooMaoMao t1_ixcdtqs wrote

Maybe for small dicked morons.

2

Nomadbytrade t1_ixceqbp wrote

Can you explain to us on the fence about gun control, why an AR 15 is a bad home defense weapon?

5

AhbabaOooMaoMao t1_ixch4il wrote

Because before you ever defend your home with it, you're more likely to kill a family member or yourself with it. Like, exponentially more likely.

If you do ever defend your home with it, you're likely to punch rounds through your walls and then through the wall of the house next to you and through some little kids sleeping in their bed a half a block away.

Or you're likely to snap one day and then ambush a couple of cops.

What's wrong with the shotgun?

Trying to think of another home security option where "might occasionally kill family members by accident" is listed under the "pros." Can you think of any? I suppose if you had an alligator filled moat, someone could fall in and you might be like "well it's not a bug it's a feature."

Don't see many people with alligator filled moats though do you.

−4

AlphaSlayer21 t1_ixcicxr wrote

They’re called frangible rounds. That’s the .223 you use for self defense, and that’s what I’ll grab every time. Know the rules of weapon safety and the layout of your home. Have fun clearing your house with a 26” barrel and 5 rounds of buckshot (that can definitely go through drywall by the way).

4

AhbabaOooMaoMao t1_ixclrcp wrote

>They’re called frangible rounds. That’s the .223 you use for self defense, and that’s what I’ll grab every time. Know the rules of weapon safety and the layout of your home.

Okay how about the rest of the post.....or do you only care about shooting your neighbors not family members.

>Have fun clearing your house with a 26” barrel and 5 rounds of buckshot (that can definitely go through drywall by the way).

You're larping around with some fantasy of home and self-defense, probably suffer from some lack of perceived control outside the home, when in reality you're probably just going to shoot one of those frangible rounds right into your spouse before you ever shoot an intruder.

1

AlphaSlayer21 t1_ixcph0v wrote

Bullets go through walls no matter what kind of firearm it is. It could be a .22 and it’s going through drywall. Just because I own an AR and that’s my go-to self defense weapon doesn’t mean I’m larping and delusional. It’s a personal choice, you want your shotgun for self defense and I want my AR. Enjoy your freedom of choice, but just because I own an AR doesn’t mean I’m more likely to shoot up a bunch of cops. I live alone so your argument to me is null and void about lighting up my make believe spouse. Fuck off and mind your own business when you don’t know what you’re talking about.

1

AlphaSlayer21 t1_ixcf6eq wrote

Oh how original, good luck beating a home intruder to death with your obviously massive shlong.

4