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djln491 t1_ixx4q1q wrote
Yes! You can protest, or you can simply switch your supplier and get a much lower rate which will send a bigger message to Eversource.
HubcapMotors t1_ixx6207 wrote
Y not both?
Eversource will still own the grid and charge you for delivery even after you change suppliers. There's more work to be done here.
eddie964 t1_ixyybnj wrote
That's because Eversource is not in the supply business it's in the delivery business. That's why it charges a delivery charge. That's what Eversource does.
Uncle_Baconn t1_ixyraxn wrote
Switching suppliers makes absolutely zero impact to Eversource. Supply rate is a pass through - no profit.
conlyal t1_ixxejv0 wrote
Eversource doesn't make their own power. They get a collection from several sources and set their rate based on what they get as an average plus profits. You can switch suppliers. They encourage it, because they don't care. Switching suppliers doesn't send any message to eversource, it just saves you money. You just have to stay on top of your supplier choices and how long they're good for, or you'll find yourself with a rate hike after your agreed on rate expires and a nasty bill to follow.
eddie964 t1_ixyvs4g wrote
It's a good move. But it won't "send a message" to Eversource. Eversource does not make a penny if profit from supply rates and does not lose a penny if you switch suppliers. With regard to supply, it is just a pass-through. All of that money goes to third-party generators.
djln491 t1_ixyzyun wrote
Interesting. I’m a little confused. So what exactly are we protesting then? If Eversource doesn’t make a penny, even if you choose them as a supplier- then what’s the point of protesting a rate hike?
Uncle_Baconn t1_ixzj4nq wrote
>I’m a little confused. So what exactly are we protesting then?
Exactly the point, there is none. Save the protests for when the delivery rates go up like 2020. They aren't allowed to make a profit on supply costs by law. (IIRC)
eddie964 t1_ixzlyyu wrote
If you want to protest about the high supply rates right now, I suggest you look into actually who is getting the money. The owners of the big natural gas generation plants in Connecticut (PSEG, for example) must be laughing their top hats and monacles off at all the public anger at Eversource over this.
-rwsr-xr-x t1_ixxkcpg wrote
> Just a reminder to sign up and lock in 13 cents per kilowatt hour from constellation for 3 years.
Just a reminder, Constellation doesn't support Eversource customers, only CL&P.
If you want to jump, move to Direct Energy, they're offering a $0.1689 0 rate right now for 33 months, no early termination fees. It's $0.04 more expensive than the current Eversource rate, but it's still going to be $0.08 cents cheaper after January 1st rolls around.
In my calculations, my $148 supply portion of the bill today, will jump to $298 after January 1st, with the exact same kW usage (a $149 increase in the $148 bill), but moving to Direct Energy will only add $56 to my current bill.
CORRECTION: As it turns out, despite not having Eversource in the providers dropdown like all of the other electrical suppliers, if you put in a zipcode that only brings up CL&P, you can still make the switch. I just signed up as well, but let's see if this goes through. It's definitely going to confuse people who are expecting to see their provider/supplier (Eversource) listed there, and see one they don't recognize (CL&P).
necro_ill-bill t1_ixy58vc wrote
Isn’t Connecticut Light & Power now Eversource?
ChiefInternetSurfer t1_ixxualm wrote
Can you explain how to do this? I’m a dumb.
-rwsr-xr-x t1_ixxw0d7 wrote
> Can you explain how to do this?
Go to EnergizeCT and compare the rates for your area/needs. From there, you can transfer your service to whomever you wish.
I usually review the rates every 3 months and switch every 4-6 months, if the rates are lower or the deals are any better.
It's become a bit more difficult with everyone hiking their prices, but there are some deals to be had.
ChiefInternetSurfer t1_ixxwfgu wrote
Thank you!
Amanpetri t1_ixyood7 wrote
I’m not sure this is true.
I just went through the Energize CT site and was able to select Constellation at $13.10 for 36 months using a promo code.
eddie964 t1_ixywo02 wrote
It's not. The poster was confused. CL&P is the same thing as Eversource.
PallasWallas t1_ixzp9mk wrote
Do you know the promo code ?
Amanpetri t1_iy04cf2 wrote
esaves5
PallasWallas t1_iyavrww wrote
THANK YOU
incapableincongrous t1_ixyvr7e wrote
Found the eversource shill.
Stop spreading misinformation, you don't know what you're talking about.
DiabolicalGooseHonk t1_ixyns8p wrote
This is confusing. I thought CL&P rebranded itself as Eversource. Would energizect.com list constellation as a supply option if I wasn’t eligible for it?
NecessaryPen6178 t1_ixysn6y wrote
Don’t believe this is entirely true. Like another user mentioned, I was able to sign up with Constellation, too.
CL&P does business as Eversource. Or simply put, they’re the same entity. So, you should be able to switch to Constellation as a third-party supplier.
eddie964 t1_ixywet6 wrote
CL&P is Eversource, or more specifically it is Eversource's regulated electric utility in Connecticut. (You'll notice that in most Eversource communications, there is fine print about CL&P "doing business as" Eversource.) Eversource also has electric utilities in MA and NH, as well as a gas utility in CT.
Bottom lime: If you are in Connecticut and get an electric bill from Eversource, it is the same entity that used to be called CL& P. You should be able to choose Constellation as your supplier.
Synapse82 t1_ixyy8rk wrote
CL&P is Eversource. They had to change their name and re-brand after their shitty response to the 08? October snowstorm outages.
Just sign up for constellation, I’m already on it.
-rwsr-xr-x t1_ixz3qgx wrote
My zip code and 9 others along the shoreline I checked are also not supported. It’s a no go for me and several thousand others.
Synapse82 t1_ixz4n2q wrote
I get that and understand. but not supporting the NY suburbs has nothing to do with the fact CL&P(Eversource) is the same company. You are either Eversource or UL. https://electricityrates.com/connecticut/connecticut-light-power-clp/
So your comment they don’t support Eversource is inherently incorrect.
Even-Surround-5979 t1_ixyyt6q wrote
Yes you can lock in 13 cents... but this rate hike applies to the delivery charge, something you will pay regardless of making a 'switch' .. everyone is everyone's pockets. This is just a facade that people are falling for. You can save a bit but in the grand scheme of things eversource will get your money.
JMPopaleetus t1_ixxsgpw wrote
I’m seeing 13.79¢, is that the one?
Synapse82 t1_ixyyeer wrote
> I’m seeing 13.79¢, is that the one?
That’s the one, use ESAVES5 promo code to make if 13.1
JMPopaleetus t1_iy27biw wrote
Perfect, thank you!
ChiefInternetSurfer t1_ixxu8gd wrote
Can you elaborate on how to do this?
Mandalore108 t1_ixxxm49 wrote
Just signed up, thanks for the reminder!
apothecarynow t1_ixysikw wrote
Everyone that I've spoke to in real life about this has gotten an email from constellation saying that there was an error setting up the account. Did anyone get this "oops! "Email? They've been closed for the long weekend.
Synapse82 t1_ixyyhsk wrote
Mine worked, and I signed up same time as other people from the old thread saying they got an error. Very weird. Try it again
I had my dad sign up Friday and it worked
quantum3ntanglement t1_ixzamvb wrote
I need to do this fast, does constellation cover all of CT?
quantum3ntanglement t1_ixzfxtr wrote
I signed up at : https://www.constellation.com/ - I put in my zip code and only had one plan option through ct light and power which is my current provider (Eversource). I did the 36 month plan at 13 cents a kilo. Sounds like I'm locking in this rate with Eversource? It could take up to two months to switch over. Has anyone else had a similar process like this when trying to lock in a 3 year rate?
jmpaul320 t1_ixzg5yz wrote
thank you - I just signed up, should save me about $80 a month (when comparing to 2023 rate)
ProInvestCK t1_ixzsww0 wrote
I signed up but never got my email yet. Signed up on Friday
jmpaul320 t1_iy15frr wrote
Check spam or junk folder. That’s where mine was on gmail.
ProInvestCK t1_iy15t7p wrote
Not there but perhaps it’s because of the holidays? Might have to give a call tomorrow.
jmpaul320 t1_iy15x7h wrote
I applied this afternoon and got mine 1 hour later. Yeah give them a call.
MonkeysDaddy2012 t1_ixyw1eh wrote
If we would/could organize (we can’t) and refuse to pay our bills for a couple months, COLLECTIVELY, we’d drum up enough noise to force change. They wouldn’t shut off everyone’s power if the numbers were high enough. They wouldn’t be able to logistically manage and it would simply bring MORE attention to the protest and cause them a PR problem they couldn’t afford. It’s wishful thinking but I think that’s one of the few options we have.
chaimpeck t1_ixyz7vb wrote
here’s an upvote in support of this
Fmy925 t1_ixzbwui wrote
I agree, sadly not enough people feel the same way or simply can't afford to protest.
TreeEleben t1_ixzxjli wrote
The state would bail out eversource and then probably garnish our wages if we stopped paying.
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Lilcoqui17 OP t1_ixxkxi4 wrote
Nonprofit Accountability Group
AhbabaOooMaoMao t1_ixyqckr wrote
Is this a legit group?
Lilcoqui17 OP t1_ixyqhvz wrote
Yeah. It’s founded by Tenaya Taylor of Hartford. I got more information if you want it.
AhbabaOooMaoMao t1_ixyrs1y wrote
Keep up the good work.
Lilcoqui17 OP t1_ixyqlxs wrote
https://www.naghartford.org And from there, there’s links to Tenaya’s socials.
giant_toad42 t1_iy7zlqg wrote
Some acronym Kung-Fu going on there with the art supplies drive. 😁 I love it.
Lilcoqui17 OP t1_iy9ovtf wrote
They also feed the kids while giving out art supplies and food. NAG also does dental supplies and period hygiene products.
SirClausRaunchy t1_ixxrbzn wrote
Wallingford has low electric rates. Why don't we just do that, but, ya know, statewide?
CombObvious4283 t1_ixyiqt9 wrote
They have their own power plant.
SirClausRaunchy t1_ixz2m0q wrote
Yeah. Publicly owned utilities are awesome. Let's do that, but statewide.
CombObvious4283 t1_ixzx5r6 wrote
So every town gets a power plant, every town buys the individual grid system from eversource?
SirClausRaunchy t1_ixzywo1 wrote
....except, statewide. Have the state buyout the existing infrastructure. Connecticut could literally make money on the deal in the long run and still provide cheaper rates and better service.
CombObvious4283 t1_iy1c73o wrote
You do know how the state would get the money for that right? From us. I’m not against it but saying the state will pay for it, make a profit off it and have cheaper rates for us would be impressive .
SirClausRaunchy t1_iy1nz4l wrote
Yeah, I know how taxes work. It's already a massively profitable business, why would the state taking over change that? They could reduce rates and still profit. Any income over operating costs could just pay back the state for the cost of the takeover, and then be reinvested into statewide infrastructure.
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Lilcoqui17 OP t1_ixxkzn1 wrote
Legislators will be in the building
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ChiefInternetSurfer t1_ixxuk8p wrote
> switch provider
Isn’t Eversource the only provider?
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Uncle_Baconn t1_ixyt3jo wrote
That's not how it works. The supply rate (cost of electricity that Eversource/UI buys) is a pass through cost. By regulation, power companies purchase electricity every 6 months from the power generating companies. That rate went up for a variety of reasons. The delivery side (the part they make money on) didn't change.
The cost of electricity went up following the global impacts of the Ukraine war and the northeast's reliance on natural gas, which was the primary export of Russia. Europe is dependent on Russian gas, and when they cut the supply the gas had to come from everywhere else. This limited supply and raised prices, and the capacity bottleneck in the northeast further exasperated the problem. The utilities have been warning this would happen for months. Eversource's CEO sent a public letter to Biden asking for help: https://www.utilitydive.com/news/eversource-ceo-seeks-emergency-order-by-biden-to-ensure-gas-supplies-as-new/635356/
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kril89 t1_ixx5uks wrote
Good luck with that
Ftheyankeei t1_ixxy190 wrote
A protest at the Capitol on a Sunday? They’ll be watching football and Christmas shopping on their weekend. Protestors will be protesting to no one.
Lilcoqui17 OP t1_ixyosvf wrote
Legislators will be in the building.
WhittlingDan t1_ixzb0m0 wrote
How come? How many?
Lilcoqui17 OP t1_ixzs4an wrote
Google is your friend. You should know why they’re opening for a special session before January.
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giant_toad42 t1_ixy2ui2 wrote
Uh, I have a pitchfork. Shall I bring it?
Lilcoqui17 OP t1_ixyoyu9 wrote
That’s between you and your lawyer.
WhittlingDan t1_ixz8hpf wrote
Perhaps cardboard/foam "Pitchfork" props with some signs stating that due to Eversource price gouging real and functional pitchforks could not be afforded. Other signs that say "Thanks to Eversource we can't even afford to eat cake!"
ViperGTS_MRE t1_ixzgkqy wrote
Lol, You will also need a torch and a straw hat to make it official
Time_Yam301 t1_ixx1nvn wrote
I don't think antitrust laws are the appropriate course of action. It's a public utility. It's not like we can have power lines going all over the place from different providers competing with each other...
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Lilcoqui17 OP t1_ixx2z2a wrote
And they need to be reigned in.
Lilcoqui17 OP t1_ixx0fub wrote
If anyone has any questions, reach out to GTA860 on twitter!
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belladonna133 t1_ixxg95d wrote
I’m with UI where can I get a lower rate
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keepitupxxx t1_ixyqc5b wrote
Use a voice to gain attention and switch to Constellation an lock in cost for a certain time Remember you will pay Eversource delivery fees either way I initially was against switching an was convinced here several days ago
Lilcoqui17 OP t1_ixyr09l wrote
And generation rates? You can’t exactly switch providers.
keepitupxxx t1_ixyscqh wrote
I will let you know just recently started process
Synapse82 t1_ixz2m7i wrote
You can’t switch from Eversource on delivery. Constellation is just the supplier. It’s the way it works.
keepitupxxx t1_iy10q1j wrote
I understand I can not switch from delivery It is just for the source with Constellation 🤔
The-invisible-entity t1_ixyuvvs wrote
FUCK EVER SOURSE. Assholes with their delivery fees. Oh ARENT THOSE CUCKS A MONOPOLY ???????????? They must BURN !!!!
speel t1_ixymuo2 wrote
Are UI rates going up?
Avarice21 t1_ixyvr57 wrote
NAG
SaviourMK2 t1_ixzjkxq wrote
Edit: nvm. I thought it was for today
Lilcoqui17 OP t1_ixzrmil wrote
Can we all take the time to notice how bots are out in full force to protect Eversource online? Hilarious.
SuspiciousYou9163 t1_ixzxwsc wrote
They should develop a crank farm hooked up to a generator. Anyone that got a stimulus check has to turn the crank 100 times per dollar that they got. Power problem solved.
scottct1 t1_ixyqvrh wrote
Waste of time. The state can do nothing about the rate increase.
They have already said it themselves as has PURA.
Lilcoqui17 OP t1_ixyvx8n wrote
No, PURA told us during a public zoom meeting that Eversource sets the rates and then they approve it.
scottct1 t1_ixywu4n wrote
No the head of Pura said on tv many times they only control the delivery fees. Not the cost of the electricity.
If your goi g to talk about something at least know what your talking about.
Lilcoqui17 OP t1_ixywwd2 wrote
Lemme look for a link to the zoom.
bigbread2020 t1_ixzqya9 wrote
Stop buying teslas idiots , we're fucking screwed; them banning gasoline and diesel trucks is our indefinite downfall.
red_purple_red t1_ixy2396 wrote
Protests should have no effect on the laws in a democratic nation.
silverblaze92 t1_ixyjn8c wrote
That's the dumbest thing I've read in a while.
AhbabaOooMaoMao t1_ixyqe0f wrote
Seriously.
WhittlingDan t1_ixzb502 wrote
Explain?
blackerjw6 t1_ixx37l9 wrote
Just a reminder to sign up and lock in 13 cents per kilowatt hour from constellation for 3 years. FYI eversource will be 24 cents in January. Lock in that savings.