Yeah, I did it Sunday with the help of this sub.

How long are your locked in with them?

I may switch this week

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3 years, but no early termination fee

Thanks for the quick reply

So to be clear it’s 3 years at that locked rate? Are delivery fees less than ES?

As I understood it, the delivery fee is whatever Eversource charges because they’re still the ones delivering the electricity. It’s only the supply side of the bill that’s changing.

https://portal.ct.gov/-/media/OCC/20221117-Consumer-Update-Winter-Rates---Updated420pm.pdf

It’s the same delivery fee, but come January 1st, you’ll be saving 50% on supply if you switch.

Ah ok I see

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I asked them about it and they said there are none.

If I do this so I still pay my bill through Eversource or through Constellation?

Almost certain it still all goes through Eversource

No early termination within 90 day, correct? per their website

† 90-Day Guarantee Period. You may terminate this Contract without incurring an early termination fee during the 90 days following your enrollment date (the Guarantee Period) by notifying us in writing or by calling our customer care center at 1-855-465-1244. Upon your termination during the Guarantee Period we will return you to being supplied by the Utility at your next available meter read date

At the end of the 90-Day terms “… Not applicable in Connecticut or Illinois where residential customers are never charged an early termination fee.”

It still goes through Eversource. They are still your electric utility and run the electric grid that brings it to you; you are just choosing another generation supplier. The new supplier and rate will show on your Eversource bill.

Does anyone know how switching to Constellation would affect solar costumers? I still buy electricity from eversource, but only whatever isn’t produced by my panels

Is this worth it Like how does this force Eversource to act better and not be price gouging They still get the money and something tells me🤔 that in long run it will become more expensive

What’s the deadline to switch?

We qualify for some kind of financial aid with Eversource although I am not certain exactly what. Since this doesn't effect billing, I should still qualify for the Eversource payment plans and financial aid, right?

Edit: Sorry. Meant for that response to be to someone else.

I doubt it will do anything to Eversource’s pseudo-monopoly on the market. This is simply a way for customers to get ahead of the massive supply rate increase.

I still have yet to see the “except CT and Illinois.”Was that on the contract you signed. Couldn’t see it on the website.

No deadline…you can switch suppliers at anytime. However, I’d act fast since I think suppliers can change their offerings at anytime. With so many people jumping on board with Constellation, I’d be surprised if they continue offering this deal for much longer.

It’s a law in CT as of July 2021, I believe. You can’t be charged early termination fees.

Eversource doesn’t keep the money on the supply side. They purchase electricity on your behalf for whatever the market rate is. They lock the price in for 6 months and whatever you use is x that rate. You pay your bill and Eversource turns around and gives that money to whatever company produced that energy.

If you change your supplier, Eversource still collects the money, but it just passes through them and goes to the company who actually produced that energy.

It won’t affect Eversource if everyone stopped using them as a supplier since they do not produce energy. You shouldn’t just lock in a price for 3 years and not check it again. Every 6 months, the rate changes. So, Eversource could be cheaper in June again. But, you run the risk that in January 2024, it will go up higher, and you’ve now gotten out of a better, overall long-term price, with an alternative supplier.

You have always been able to choose your supplier, 13 cents is higher than the Eversource rate right now. After December 31st it will be a great deal.

https://energizect.com/rate-board/compare-energy-supplier-rates

What’s your point?

How do you switch? I have no clue how to do it and don’t have the bandwidth to both research how to switch and what my options are.

To be clear here too, you’re not away from Eversource. Your supply is not Eversource, but delivery (and Eversource’s insane fees) are still there.

I know

So if I switch to constellation who will be providing customer service? Will it still be Eversource?

Shit I may just go to renewable energy. 4c more than constellationnbut 5c less than eversource...

Ok, but where’s the scam?

Obviously in providing a cheaper service they’re looking to make it up on the backside, or offering a less reliable or less longevity service, or are trying to take out the market leader or IDK sign me up for an ad network, to lock me into a higher rate at a later date, or me to somehow “be” the product.

Soooooooooooo…. Which is it? Why aren’t they just charging what Eversource is charging and pocketing the rest for profit (“oh this darn inflation!”)

I would imagine your rate skyrockets upon renewal (assuming you forget about the expiration date of the original contract). Suppliers that aren’t Eversource are typically more expensive, so this is one of the rare times where that’s not the case.

EverSource owns the poles, wires, etc. do they control delivery.

EverSource would still be your delivery service provider 🤷🏻‍♀️

🤷🏻‍♀️ To be competitive and steal everSource’s customers? Successfully, lol

Worth it to find some bandwidth. It doesn’t take long. Someone posted the link to energize CT above.

In the event of a power outage, is it still Eversource who handles the customer service/line repair?

Yup. They own all of the lines.

This is very legal and very cool. I just switched over! Took about 30 min but I’m set for rate hikes now. Thanks dude!

Blumenthal should be far less worried about Taylor Swift / Ticket Master issues and be doing everything in his power to protect all CT residents, but here we are.

is it effective immediately? or will it take over in jan?

If that’s all they’re doing then they are playing capitalism wrong and it’s likely an SEC violation. Or your’re the sucker at the table. LOL.

It's all on the energizect website, and it's really easy. You'll likely need your last month's bill to provide the account number, etc.

For my new solar contract I will only use Eversource because anything I over produce goes to them, and they give me credit for an even exchange..kw=kw .. no rates apply. Until my panels go live, I'm with Constellation

Yes, Eversource

It can take up to two billing cycles.

It’s only generation charges that can be changed. Transmission and distribution charges cannot be changed, unless you go Solar. Just did and switched to electric heat 🤌

locking in for long time is good sense. not only can you cancel early, but with the global unrest prices may continue to increase before they decrease. i locked in back in febuary for 2 years at 10 cents. Same company offers the same deal today for 16. Take the 13 cent offer now and hopefully it lasts until prices are back down.

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Is it entirely possible your skepticism is misguided? Many of us here have chosen to switch to Constellation already. There is nothing in the contract that looks remotely close to a scam.

I’m nervous that they will be worse and then I’m locked into 3 years.

Look at my updated post “Edit 3”

Fuck me I missed the coupon code :(

But thanks for the info, I just switched us over.

I used to do that more often, usually there was a deal thru the citizen oil co-op but then EV actually started being cheaper so we went back and stayed.

Now, however, I'm happy to switch away again and see where it takes us. I texted my nieces too, so they can jump on it

Thanks again for the heads up!

Is there any delay in service? Also do I need to cancel with eversource or is that taking care of during switch online? Thanks

It may be misguided. But there certainly is a scam.

So show everyone here the proof. The onus is on you.

That’s why I didn’t vote for him.

Got a feeling within 90 days they will be bankrupt …. And we will start this over again …

But it says CT and IL are exceptions where residents “are never charged an early termination fee”

Why do you say that? They serve a good 15 states including CT.

For Constellation their scam seems to be growth of consumer demand that leads to them cornering a bunch of energy output from nuke plans coming online between now and 2040 (when a bunch of their licenses expire). And perhaps pivoting that growth into alternative energy sources (hydrogen?) when those plans come online. So the grow and monopolize play/scam.

This, coupled with money from the government from the Inflation Reduction Act (good scam, having the government pay for your growth) is likely their short term play. Their market fundamentals seem a bit shakey (they're giving dividends, even though they are small ones, WTF)... and who knows what their customer support story is, etc etc

Of course there's the ever present raise rates after the contract renewal scam.

I would love to see their distributed energy play ala solar, better use of capital in general which is likely to bite them, and I personally believe the future is distributed vs centralized and that's likely to get them over the next 3-30 years. I dislike not knowing their short term plan: how are they going to drive growth in Q1 2023... but global gas/oil energy markets may make that very easy to be nuke heavy (sit back, relax while people come to you).

But it's also not a reduction of bills - I'll probably pay a little bit more than I'm currently paying, but it will avoid me paying more when Eversource hikes its rates EOY. So it won't leave me money left over in my budget, but it will avoid (a majority of) a bill increase.

That's just from 15 minutes of analysis. It sounds like maybe a reasonable play, or a stopgap this winter until I can dump them (thanks no cancellation fee CT??!) for my own solar install????

Sources:

• Yahoo Finance news page for CEG
• Seeking Alpha (whoever they are) analysis on CEG

Do uou still pay eversource delivery fees then?

Did anyone switch to Constellation and get a confirmation email? I didn't get anything after submitting the application but was kind of expecting to, so I'm hoping it's not just me...

I received an email a half hour after I submitted my information letting me know that my request to switch to Constellation has been sent to Eversource.

Thanks! I'll keep an eye out. And thanks for this post. (Plus, thanks from my parents, who I shared this with too!)

New contracts aren’t kw=kw like they were last year. You sell your monthly excess kw at the billing rate and bank that monetary credit.

Similar, but notably different, since in winter when you are using more than you generate, you are buying electricity at a higher rate than you sold your excess for in the summer. Bastards.

I’m going to ask my installer about this tomorrow. I’d be very surprised if you had to keep Eversource as your supplier with solar. You bank excess generation at the wholesale rate anyways, not at the supplier rate.

And thats why whole home battery backups are worth their weight in gold. Store and then use, even when the grid goes down. I wish there was more education around about the importance of powerwalls and the like combined with solar.

I could not convince myself that a battery made any economic sense for me. It would never pay for itself. The seasonal rate differences are negligible compared to the upfront battery cost. Am I missing something?

Granted, I live in an area with a very stable grid. I’ll probably end up with an EV that can serve as a house backup at some point anyways. The F-150 can already do that I bet other manufacturers will adopt that in the next few years.

Edit: In states with shitty net metering, batteries are essential imo. But CT is still really close to 1:1 net metering.

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Yea for so it doesn't make sence but for others it extremely useful. Such as using your solar durring an outage, choosing to toggle between when you charge your battery and when you use the grid durring off-peak hours. Its the closest thing to "off-grid" that you can get. They keep saying that the F150 can but have yet to prove they have the tech to do so, I am extremely hopeful for this though.

How does this work? Ui in my case, sure we’re all (except TX) connected to the national grid but it looks like all our power is generated in the region anyways. So how can constellation have such competitive rates when UI and eversource are screaming and citing inflation and lack of fuel supply? All of our power comes from the same place anyways, right? Is the difference just lining the utility co. boards’ pockets?

In the past it hasn’t made sense for me to switch to some other “supplier” but with Jan 1 rates looming, I don’t see any reason not to…

Thanks for sharing OP, your post caught my eye where the others for some reason made me just glance over it in misery.

Thanks. That all makes sense

No problem, I love talking about em! New tech amazes me.

Straight from Constellation’s website:

† 90-Day Guarantee Period. You may terminate this Contract without incurring an early termination fee during the 90 days following your enrollment date (the Guarantee Period) by notifying us in writing or by calling our customer care center at 1-855-465-1244. Upon your termination during the Guarantee Period we will return you to being supplied by the Utility at your next available meter read date, or if you are a customer in the Atlanta Gas Light area your service will continue with Constellation until you complete a switch to your selected marketer, and you will remain responsible for payment for any energy related costs and charges incurred under this Contract through such meter read or termination date. Not applicable in Texas. Not applicable in Connecticut or Illinois where residential customers are never charged an early termination fee.

Yes as they're the ones who own the wires serving your residence. You just get cheaper supply rates (the left hand side of page 1 of the electric bill).

Right? The guy hasn’t done anything to lower utility bills all his years in office. Do you really think he’s going to start now?

Almost certainly they are making money by trading/selling Renewable Energy Certificates. But that doesn’t effect you the end customer.

I think they’re just stating facts - no judgement or opinion one way or another

Do they offer a fixed payment plan like Eversource does?

Just followed your lead. Thanks for the heads up

Oh good … 14 other states can subsidize our cheap rate lol

I just look at like Eversource “standard” is 24 cents … where do they get power for half off?

I can just imagine how bad it is for the environment lol

Can confirm. I was reluctant to lock in for three years when I signed up last December, until I got it in writing that there was no fee to cancel early. I'm cruising along at 8.9 cents per kWh until December 2024.

Sounds like a good idea

But you will see from all these responses that most people really don't know that delivery and supply are separate. So while you know, clearly most Eversource customers don't know and indeed your thread title says nothing about switching suppliers.

As most are learning, this is to switch to a different energy supplier only, it will not change who delivers electricity to your house. You will still pay Eversource or UI on your normal monthly electric bill.

Constellation is currently by far the best offer out there with no application or early termination fees. You can see all of the other suppliers out there by going to the following website for Eversource (there is another similar one for UI): https://energizect.com/rate-board/compare-energy-supplier-rates?customerClass=1201&monthlyUsage=750&planTypeEdc=1191

This is for residential Eversource rates. To get UI or other types of rates you go to the left hand side of the page I linked and choose a different supplier rate.

Awesome thanks for sharing! So max $100 fee if terminated before three years

No, not even that if I'm understanding this right.

Blumenthal is one of our US senators. He represents our state in the US Senate. He doesn't have any power over state policy because he's not part of the state government.

How do you people not know this? Did you not pay attention in civics classes?

There is no delay, the billing will all be done by Eversource, and it just switches in their system.

No need to do anything other than sign up, it just switches itself over.

I’ve been on Eversource for Supply for the last few years, but used to be on a few other suppliers over the years and it has always been this easy to switch suppliers.

Your payment plan will not change. I’m on a even payment plan as well and I have had different suppliers in the past.

All billing is taken care of by Eversource and your payments will not change.

He's in the federal government. You want him to push a federal law to protect just CT?

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Why the down votes. they are just clarifying the law, not Constellations policy. I'd add that most people will save over $100 (max legal early term fee) in less than 2 months. So still a good deal if the rates crash in June.

Not what I said. I'd like him to be less concerned with getting in front of cameras and on Twitter talking about Taylor Swift/ Ticket Master and spend more time working towards and talking about issues that impact most residents of our state. IMHO, it's a bad look spending time talking about concert sales gone wrong when the electric companies are going to be impacting thousands of people with a massive rate hike.

I know where he works and who he works for. Some of those people are on fixed incomes and are going to suffer. Yet he seems unconcerned as do our other local, state and federal representatives.

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I know this is 11 hours late, but my confirmation email went to the spam folder so don't forget to check there

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Give it time when more people add solar and others that don’t add solar switch on the supply side, eversource will just increase the delivery costs. Eventually we will go back to living like cavemen.

Can you tell me more about a while home battery backup? Is it a solar powered storage and who would install it, where would I purchase? Thanks!

That was my rate for the past few years, until it ended this Sept. I was unable to get a good rate after that ended so went back to Eversource at 12.05. Just signed with Constellation at 13.79 a few days ago and can confirm no cancellation or enrollment fee, 3 year lock in. More than I’ve ever paid and I’ve been choosing my supplier since they were deregulated years ago.

Yes, true, but it was deregulated years ago and I’ve been choosing my supplier for what seems like 10 years now and saved a bundle. Most of my friends didn’t want to bother, but I use a lot of electricity so it has been worth the time to review the plan every 6 months and change suppliers when necessary.

Where did you get the coupon code? I signed up with Constellation a few days ago and have a fixed rate of 13.79 for 3 years.

First line of the original post

As electric vehicles penetrate deeper, I predict electricity will get more and more expensive from 3pm to 10pm to account for everyone plugging their cars in when they get home from work. I think batteries might not make economic sense now, but peak shaving is going to be a more and more important thing to take into consideration. The cannabis legalization in CT will also impact this (It's crazy, marijuana legalization is changing how some major suppliers design power grid equipment and transformers)

That’s fascinating. I hadn’t considered the energy impacts from a changing agriculture industry.

Eversource already has a $200 yearly incentive to encourage charging your EV in off-peak hours. “Off-peak” really only excludes some daytime hours during the hottest days of the year at the moment, but like you said, I’m sure it will become increasingly restrictive.

I switched yesterday. Just saw this. They (constellation) are using the code “rockstar” now in CT. It’s a bit confusing, the plan on their webpage shows 13,79 cents per kwhr. But the code doesn’t have any discount with it.

Yes the battery is charged by solar, however it can also be fed by the grind if you wanted to for some random reason. The DC power runs to the inverter from your panels than once converted to AC power it charges the battery. You can monitor the power draw of your house and the amount of solar energy collected through an App on your phone or computer. Companies like Tesla have solar and batterie packages for sale on their website, but I know the solar company SunRun also sells and installs Teslas Power Walls with their own solar arrays.

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> Did anyone switch to Constellation and get a confirmation email?

I didn't. Nothing in my junk folder. Even logged into my hosting co to check my email there, since sometimes they catch and hold it there, but nothing

???

Just signed up... thanks for the coupon code!

Thanks for this information! And the discount code. Just signed up with Constellation via their website; super easy.

I just talked to my installer. The impact of switching for solar customers is no different from that for non solar customers. You just sell excess generation at your new billing cost with Constellation, and you buy excess usage at the Constellation rate.

Makes more sense to lock in a long term rate if you have solar so that prices don’t go up in the winter when your generation is lowest.

Thanks for the update! I think I’ll go ahead and contact them soon, really appreciate it!

I signed up a couple days ago and live chatted them to get down to the 13.1 rate. They effectively cancelled my original online app and re-signed me up over the chat w/ ESAVES5 code.

If you do this, let me know - there's also a referral code that gets both you and the refer'er a $50 gift card (stacks with the lower rate). PM me if you'd like that though, since I think it's against sub rules to publicly post that.

Even if constellation does something fishy, it is illegal in CT for them to penalize you for swapping to a different supplier if they give you reason to. The rate lock is purely there for your own protection of the rate. It isn't a binding contract to stay with them for however many months you have it.

They are a company that serves a broader population. They supply energy in a wider region than eversource. Maybe they are getting enough profit elsewhere to undercut eversource in this region to gain new customers who will be lazy and not change their supplier after three years are up and they jack the rate.

And the delivery fee is the portion that is increasing, correct?

Not true. Our contract with ConEd is Kw=Kw. We bank Kw credits with Eversource to use as needed. If we bank more than we use at the end of the year, then we will be paid a miniscule amount like $.04/kw.

Okay, so you signed your contract in 2021 then. I assumed it was this year since your system isn’t live yet.

I’m also assuming you own the panels. I don’t know how lease structures work.

With the 2022 net-metering structure, you bank your excess generation as monetary credits like I described, and tap into those funds in the winter when you are under-producing. Additionally, you receive $0.0318 for every kW you generate. You can only cash out remaining monetary credits when you move, but you are paid out the per kW earnings on a quarterly basis.

I didn’t. They told me it could take up to three business days.

I attempted to join again online and it said I’m already a customer, so now just waiting for the email confirmation. They’re swamped!!!!

No scam at all.

On the bill from Eversource, it tells you who your provider is, how much you’re paying per kilowatt hour, and it will tell you the month and year of the last meter reading with the provider.

They make it very easy.

Don’t forget, you can change electric providers at any time with no early cancellation fee. All you have to is call Eversource and they’ll switch you back within 72 hours.,

If you find a better rate with another company, just sign up with them and it switches automatically in about a month.

There’s no downside.

No. I signed up this year for installation next year. We are not banking monetary credits. It's kw hour even exchange. Any kw we need in excess of what we bank will be at Eversource current rates. We sized our system to accommodate heat pumps and 2 electric cars... that we don't have yet... because that is allowed. We used 14k kwh last year and we sized our system at 19k kw, so we don't anticipate any need to buy. Yes, this is a purchase. Leasing is a horrible idea.

The expiration date is on the Eversource bill. If you look at your bill you’ll see it’s Eversource right now, and how much you’re paying per kilowatt hour. It will also say that rate expires in the December meter reading. It’s so easy to keep track of with the information on the bill.

They also include the rate info and contact info for other suppliers.

My concern is they’ll raise the delivery fees with supplier costs down for consumers

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Okay, guess you got some sort of deal that’s unique from every other CT resident that got solar this year. That’s cool.

https://www.constellation.com/

Please at least read my analysis before telling me there’s not a scam (there is, at least 3)

https://www.reddit.com/r/Connecticut/comments/z18njv/apologies_for_yet_another_thread_on_the_new/ixaxnx0/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3

Your analysis may be correct. However I believe the scam is coming from eversource.

They’re doubling our supply rates 5 weeks before the fact just as a recession is underway. Think how much higher the delivery fee is going to be!

This is so their CEO and shareholders can increase their profits. This is BS!

So what do they do? They say we can offer help financially for the huge bills we send you. Give us all your financial information. W2’s, savings accounts, checking accounts, retirement accounts, housing costs and all assets you own. “We want to know everything!” Hmmm

People were having trouble paying for electricity BEFORE the increase of DOUBLE the rates! I guess enough of the CT population didn’t apply for assistance? WT everlasting F????

That’s the scam. Your information is just more complicated but certainly not irrelevant

> This is so their CEO and shareholders can increase their profits. This is BS!

You do know the system is working as designed, right?

Of course

Just to confirm, this is supply only, correct? Transmission rates are still the same?

Correct. Eversource and UI are the utility providers for CT, so they’ll still be the ones delivery the electricity depending on where you live.

Netting incentive from the link you shared:

"Power produced by your system, but not consumed within the month, is "netted" at the same rate you pay Eversource for electricity

Current incentive rate The netting incentive rate is the current retail rate + a quarterly Renewable Energy Certificate (REC) payment of $0.0318 per kWh. This rate is set by the state and remains the same for 20 years."

If I didn't explain it this way, then I apologize. I'm not special. My excess is credited at the same rate being offered, so kw sent= kw purchased. If I need more than I send them I have to buy at the current rate.

Will take a look then But not interested in any help for Eversource They are going to make us all go broke this winter

Thank you very much for this

What does that code get you?

I called after, the person on the phone said “it’s 13.79 cents per kwhr”. Told her that’s the price of the offer. She then said, “guess it doesn’t matter.” I’m still ok with that rate.

You should definitely chat them back and ask for esaves5. Got 13.10

Told them that. Actually texted them right after I saw your post. After 20 minutes, they said that the code wasn’t available and asked where/when I got it. Interesting. Going to wait until I get the paper work for the contract and call then to try.

Got ya. Don't forget to get a referral code too. Happy to provide one via PM - $50 gift card for both of us

Incorrect.

Did anyone else get this email? My family member and I got it...

We are happy you selected Constellation as your energy supplier and we've already notified your local utility that you have enrolled with us. They have advised us that they can't make the switch because there is an error or a question in our records.

Not to worry! It could be something as simple as a wrong address or incorrect spelling of your name.

If you call us right away at 855-465-1244, we can make the adjustment and get you on your way to becoming a Constellation

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Just came here to ask as I just got this email. I’m 31 in line on the phone waiting for a callback. Did you have any follow up?

No idea. I forgot to call this morning let me know if you hear anything

They told me Eversource rejected the rate. So constellation put it through again and said a number of people got that email and they are looking into it. I had a confirmation # with the 13.1 rate and she said that would go through.

Ok so all good with that rate then??

A lot of people panicking on another tread saying they would not honor the 13.1 and re-enrolled at 15.7. I say on hold for 25 minutes and gave up. Will have to call tomorrow. I logged on to my constellation account and everything looks fine with a start date for service on 12/7

They told me they would honor 13.1 I had in my confirmation

Blumenthal is a public figure. He can say something. You’re probably ok with the fact he lied about his service in Vietnam. You’re the type of CT liberal who either lives in Florida now, or will move in the next five years