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Pruedrive t1_j14u3mj wrote

That's only a current trend and still very close to motor vehicle deaths which is usually and historically the leading killer of US adolescents. I'm sure covid played its roll in that trend flipping for a bit.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmc2201761

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SneakySnake897 t1_j14vy46 wrote

Agreed, and we have taken so many extreme measures to protect our kids from car deaths, it only makes sense to greatly crack down on gun laws.

I really like your way of thinking about this. We have brought child car deaths way down with strict laws around car use, licensing, and policing; we know how well this works. If we apply these same common sense laws to guns, we could probably lower gun deaths for kids way down.

You know there isn’t a single other western country that has gun deaths in their top 5 for kids right? It’s a fucking disgrace.

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Pruedrive t1_j14xnoc wrote

Well like I said.. I think because of covid the number may have dropped because of people not traveling as much in recent times. I don't think a change in laws, or vehicle safety is a cause for the sudden decrease. Nor do I think the recent up tick in gun related deaths is really telling us much either.. if anything we would need to look at the greater societal trends that may be driving for the recent spike in them.

While it sucks cause all deaths are a tragedy you can't compare the US to many other nations on these grounds because you are comparing two diffrent cultures and can't just blame the presence of firearms. For instance Japan has no guns and way higher amounts of suicides per capita than the US.. which here a major driving factor in gun related deaths is suicide. Or a lot of other nations have universal healthcare, and we dont.. people have a greater access to mental health services where we don't. Sure you can make comparisons, but I don't believe it's a fair way to look at it.

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SneakySnake897 t1_j14yb9v wrote

I’m not making individual comparisons though. I’m saying if you make a list of the top 20 nations that are “most like the us” in terms of culture, politics, economy etc, NONE of them have this issue.

Yes, it doesn’t make sense to compare apples to oranges. But when ALL of them are different? Come on.

Vehicle deaths are down because people are traveling less, like you said. Gun deaths are up because people got meaner during Covid: we have tons of data to show how much domestic violence went up. Additionally, we have a lot of Americans in desperate financial straits right now. We know that poverty is a leading force in driving crime, so that sadly also makes sense.

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Pruedrive t1_j1505f5 wrote

I'm gonna venture to say gun deaths will probably go down the further away from the covid years we get. That shit put a major strain on our population.

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