Submitted by jaydecay123 t3_zrq12j in Connecticut
Elementary school students in Westport became sick after ingesting THC-laced candy on a school bus, police say. - Full Story
Submitted by jaydecay123 t3_zrq12j in Connecticut
Elementary school students in Westport became sick after ingesting THC-laced candy on a school bus, police say. - Full Story
there's also people lacing water with alcohol, be careful
Alcohol laced club soda.
"Breaking News: Children hospitalized after drinking sugar water laced with alcohol called 'Fireball'. More at 11."
well, it could have been an older student pranking younger ones or something. maybe you have the inside scoop?
No one is “pranking” anyone with edibles. No one is just giving away free drugs, they are expensive. DARE lied to you.
Drugs Are Really Expensive. Do I have the acronym wrong??
Seriously though, I don’t remember what it really stands for bc all we ever did as kids was make fun of any anti-drug propaganda from our public schools
That's not true. When I was on the fence about stepping up to something more advanced, a local freelance distributor let me try it for free.
Now he gets all my business, and I give him a lot of business. Pretty much constantly.
It could've been, but my issue is more with how they said "laced with" when they were just edibles, it's like calling booze "water laced with a dangerous drug alcohol"
I mean yes kids shouldn't be eating random candy they find - for all sorts of reasons - but I worry this is going to feed into the whole rainbow fentanyl / police officer going into cardiac arrest because they were upwind 100 yards away from some drugs / etc craze.
Of the things kids in Connecticut need to be worried about, "getting run over by some idiot in a very tall pickup truck" ought to rate a lot higher than "accidentally eating drugs," and we ought to be doing more to discourage people from buying those and not spend too much energy getting all Helen Lovejoy about edibles.
Probably the only Helen Lovejoy reference i've ever seen on Reddit. Perfectly used.
Most of the police fentanyl overdoses are fake and done for attention and social media clout.
Yes, that’s my point with the 100 yards upwind thing :-)
All of them are. You can't get overdosed on fentanyl thru the skin
It already has. My local town group are going nuts over this story. “WhEn A cOnSpIrAcY tHeoRy CaMe TrUe”
Just saw an article that said the number one cause of death for children in America is now gun violence.
Parents are freaking out about pot candy, but guns? *shrug* It's the cost of freedom!
A true stat but worth noting that children are defined in this stat as people up to age 19 and includes murders and suicides. So a very big spike in the upper teen years for that stat related to drug and gang activity. Murder rates in big citys and suburbs are night and day. The reason I bring this up is the westport Karens worried about pot edibles for their elementary aged kids are not the same parents whose older children are driving up the gun death stat. You're right that the Karens shouldn't be worried about edibles but gun deaths are also little concern for kids in Westport. This disparity does show how much the teen deaths are largely ignored in large cities.
>children are defined in this stat as people up to age 19 and includes murders and suicides.
That you think this makes it less bad in any way is disturbing.
Also, what else is there but murders and suicides? Accidental discharge? Is that what you thought I was talking about?
>So a very big spike in the upper teen years for that stat related to drug and gang activity.
Source: Pulled out of your ass. The majority of gun violence is not gang or drug related. This is a fact:
>According to the National Youth Gang Survey Analysis by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), National Gang Center, and Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention, most gun homicides are not related to gangs.
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>A December 2020 Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report by the CDC of 34 states, four California counties, and Washington, D.C., found that 9.7% of homicides in 2017 were gang-related.
https://www.gvpedia.org/gun-myths/gangs/
>Murder rates in big citys and suburbs are night and day.
It's becoming clear that this is just about pushing your political agenda and not dealing in reality.
NEWTOWN is not suburban? The site of one of the worst mass shootings in US history?
You know which state has the highest crime rate? Alaska. A state known for its dense cities, right? XD
And all of the other top 10 highest crime states are all rural states:
https://propertyclub.nyc/article/most-dangerous-states-in-the-us
>That you think this makes it less bad in any way is disturbing.
I had indicated that they are different and did not qualify one over the other. Instead of dismissing me, why not ask an honest question.
Also I appreciate your effort to provide sources but your mixing different things. Most dangerous state is measured in your stat with violent crime overall not gun deaths. Also, your stat on gang deaths was for all shooting deaths and not for the age group we were discussing which seems relevant. It's important to make these distinctions to understand root causes and addressing them. I was responding to the original comment that a mother in Westport should be more worried about gun deaths and that simply isn't true statistically.
> NEWTOWN is not suburban? The site of one of the worst mass shootings in US history?.
This statement is confusing. I know Sandy Hook was local. It's where I grew up, the school went to a million years ago and where friends had kids the day of the shooting (none fortunately who lost their lives). The horror of that event does not change rarity and I didn't say shootings in rural areas didn't exist.
This NYT article generally backs up my assertions. Most children shooting deaths are 17-19 year olds. More than 5x than 1-9 year olds. City rates are much higher. Minority deaths are much higher 8x for black boys. (The article specifically mentions it doesn't have the data for associating the deaths with gangs. ) once again, none of this mean it's not an important social issue. It's just isn't a direct concern for a white mother in Westport for a elementary school age kid. It is though for a urban, poor minority mother. I think scaring the Westport mom does a disservice to the poor urban folks dealing with this. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/12/14/magazine/gun-violence-children-data-statistics.html
>did not qualify one over the other.
Oh, of course, you weren't suggesting that a higher murder rate is a bad thing, silly me! Why not be honest with me?
>Most dangerous state is measured in your stat with violent crime overall not gun deaths. Also, your stat on gang deaths was for all shooting deaths and not for the age group we were discussing which seems relevant.
Ah, look who's a stickler for hyper specific stats all of the sudden, while still presenting ZERO of your own.
So you think teens have a higher rate of gang involvement than adults? That would be the only way that distinction would make a difference. And yet, you still have offered zero evidence to suggest they somehow reverse that statistic. I'm waiting...
You said "murder rates in big cities", not gun violence. You're clearly speaking broadly about violence in general, but keep trying to weasel out of it.
I can see your only motivation is to "win" and not have a conversation. I'm not interested. Good luck.
You were never operating in good faith.
Tall trucks? I’m far more concerned with the beat-to-shit cars with tiktok scrolling drivers, which seems to be half the drivers on the road lately.
Can confirm. Sorta, I was run over by some idiot in a Jeep.
Authorities confirmed it was THC after witnessing the afflicted children bust out a hacky sack, gathering in a circle...
Children quoted saying "just relax broski, you just gotta enjoy the ride"
Hacky Sack?
Broski?
Found the old folks.
Relax Broski...you hack?
Scram broskis it’s the fuzz
You got a grit I can bum?
I'm 25 bozo lol, older than dirt.
Bozo?
At heart maybe.
Yeah, I'll give you that
Lollls.
“Anyone know how the 5th grade art students got ahold of Phish t-shirts?”
If you have kids, and edibles, don't have the kinds of edibles that look like candy. . . because kids will ALWAYS find the candy you thought you hid.
I think certain edibles like gummies are banned for recreational sale in CT for this reason. Maybe there's merit to a packaging law to prevent some of these accidents.
People could also do what responsible gun owners do and keep the thing you don't want your kids getting locked up.
Recreational sales will allow gummies and beverages. They currently are not allowed in the medical program.
I tried to find my source but haven't been able to. I saw a news interview with the owner of Fine Fettle where he said they'll be selling seltzers when recreational sales start, but not gummies because they're banned. I guess it'll be obvious next month if that's true.
I didn't realize gummies are banned for medical patients though, that's interesting. Do you know why?
CT banned all candy or gummies to deter it looking appealing to kids. CT also came up with crazy names that make it impossible to figure out wtf your smoking (OG Kush? No…you get Agoravex or some nonsense). Unfortunately, they seem to forget half the state has been driving to Mass for years, and Mass sells all the stuff CT said nope to. And as a random addition, “gas” man/men/women sell the nerd rope candy packaged ones pretty regularly…some even deliver! 🤣🤦♀️
Pills look like candy so idk. Those are still sold otc
My favorite PSA from the 80’s… still randomly gets stuck in my head and none of my younger co-workers have ever heard of it https://youtu.be/VHSdTFbU3Ts
I fully remember going through every single item my parents had when they weren’t home and I’ll tell you first hand there is no place you think is hidden well enough……… sauce: found dads vibrating cock ring (only registered to me what it was years later when I had a random memory pop up)
We should pass a law making it a felony if someone fails to secure edibles in a safe in a home that children reside in or frequent.
Alcohol too? How about cleaning supplies like bleach? Because you're going to have a lot of felonies to prove.
Prescription medication, Listerine, NyQuil too.
Gotta be careful with that insidious NyQuil.
( I laughed out loud when I got carded for NyQuil. Some people be REAL desperate lol )
Yes, especially alcohol. Probably the most dangerous substance known to man.
I think enriched uranium is probably the most dangerous substance known to man. But if you're going to make it a felony when kids get into harmful things, you're going to be locking up a lot of people.
> I think enriched uranium is probably the most dangerous substance known to man.
Potentially, but not actually. Alcohol directly kills 140,000 Americans every single year.
Tobacco kills almost 500,000 every year.
Yes, but the secondary affects of alcohol are widespread-domestic abuse, job loss, homelessness, reckless behavior, violence etc. tobacco doesn’t leaves wake of destruction.
>widespread-domestic abuse, job loss, homelessness, reckless behavior, violence etc.
And that's going to happen to a kid when dad doesn't lock the liquor cabinet? Homelessness? Job loss?
You need to lighten up. Go have a couple of gummies and binge watch the Twilight Zone.
Yes, it’s called addiction and that’s how it starts.
LOL. So let's start throwing people in jail because they have a couple cans of Coors in the fridge.That'll work.
The difference is that bleach doesn't look and taste like candy lmao. You could maybe argue the point for the sugary wine coolers but kids hate the taste of most liquor.
Yeah make everything a felony.
Being a Karen or a boomer should be a felony too.
I can get behind that as long as we do the same for alcohol.
Agreed.
Alcohol is more dangerous for kids to consume, it can easily kill them, especially hard alcohol.
Agreed, alcohol as well.
Someone found their parents stash, lets blame everyone else!
Now there’s a magic bus ride for the ages.
As bad as this is, I hate how the news calls it “laced candy”
They’re edibles, they contain drugs on purpose and have big ass labels that say “contains THC”. That’s like calling alcohol “laced sugar water”.
What about parental responsibilities with small kids in the house?
Below it is oops kids found their parents stash - blame it on an elementary school kid, THC isn’t a poison (everything is a poison in the wrong dosage), whataboutism in the gun responses….
Whoever bought it has the responsibility to keep it safe. Making excuses for them not doing that is lame. I’ll get downvoted but I’m not wrong.
'Sickened'...
Then some people spend a lot of money to get sick.
This darn recreational Mary Jane propaganda!
Tbf, I gave my 24 yo kid one of my hash rosin infused juices (250 mg in 8oz of juice). I have a really high tolerance, and drink the whole thing, but told him JUST A SIP! Of course, he didn’t listen to me, drank half the bottle, and got so high he puked. Just sayin, you can go beyond high into sick territory
Those kids certainly are sickkkk bruh
Pretty fucked up kids were able to access edibles and is that seriously the packaging on them?
Parents probably going to get charged or fined I would expect?
Feel like the #1 obvious solution is to not be a shitty parent who (a) gives kids easy access to edibles (or booze etc) and (b) talk to your kids about drugs and alcohol (although I doubt many people expect their kids to have to be on guard on the bus in fucking elementary school).
The #2 obvious solution is change the fucking packaging lol - no need for it to look like regular candy, be brightly colored, and share the same name with regular candy (nerds).
Sincerely - someone who thoroughly enjoys edibles.
Any weed edibles that copy real, copyrighted brand names of candy are fake. You buy the empty bags online, buy some real nerds, spray them with THC distillate, and put them in the edibles bags to sell. They don't come from dispensaries.
Glad to hear that thanks for the intel
Someone knows nothing about "thc distillates" or how edibles are prepared.
Distillate is sticky and very temperature sensitive. If "sprayed" on something like skittles you will get a sticky gummy mess very easily.
No.
They aren't making infused Skittles.
It's literally spray on bulk distillates.
Seems like your education is very narrow on the topic
hear hear!
I feel like they’ll have some lawsuits as well.
yeah... my wife and I make sure our THC gummies are out of reach of our kid... I wonder how he ended up with it.
My son is almost 5 and will literally eat any gummy he finds. When he was 3 I found him munching on a roll of Tums - that was scary enough...
Best weed psa ever https://youtu.be/uDACt-ems6Y
How sad is it that we live in a world where I honestly don’t even know if that’s satire
I have no idea if it’s real or a parody PSA but it personifies the old school weed psa’s perfectly
I mean, it’s pretty funny. I actually linked my fave PSA somewhere else in this thread… here it is again https://youtu.be/VHSdTFbU3Ts
That one is great! Here’s another great one https://youtu.be/xzmChQvz4E0
I don’t think it worked (aggressively smokes more weed)
Lockbox.
Someone's older brother came home from work and is P***ED that his edibles are gone.
There I fixed it for you.
Damn rich kids
Sickened or stoned
Is “sick”, in this case, another word for “high”? 😃
Well, DARE aside, lol, kids are idiots....especially gradeschoolers. John DuBouis finds mom's special candy meds and thinks it's funny to give them to some kids on the bus really seems so outlandish? By ten am the kids are bugging out and, I dont know, paranoid(?), some kids snickers and says something. and next thing you know little Johnny DB is in the principal's office. And of course the principal is going to turn this into his big heroic moment, calling the paper and tv news, writing the big social media post saying he cant name names, and then the witchhunt for the druggie hippie commie parents begins...just the vibe i get from the story and the link on the story...maybe i should write a tv show or something....
Weak.
Damn where was all this laced candy when I was a kid. Me and my brother had to sneak sips of our dads beer when he wasn't looking
Gotta love the bootleg bags at the top of this article. Nerds candy would never let a legitimate product share the name. Some high school kid ordered Nerds bags from Amazon and made edibles in his oven. But this will be used as a scare tactic with recreational dispensaries opening in a couple of weeks.
poor kids had a raging drum circle and ate cookies all evening
The parents or whoever purchased should be prosecuted
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How did the kids get the candy?
Black market edibles.
Weak AF.
Kids lucky they weren't totally bunk I guess.
Well then I am sickened as F at the moment.
Ban it all, I say ….
Just because kids got there hands on it? Why not legalize and regulate it?
Is it not?
It's still not being sold recreationaly, they're holding any recreational licenses hostage
Talk to an ER nurse or medic from Colorado. Your ears will bleed from their stories about the number of poisonings--largely pediatric-- from edibles that come through there. It will become commonplace in CT as well. --But let's not offend users by reporting these incidents . . ..
I wonder what will be higher-the number of kids will be getting sick from edibles or dying because of guns. But lets not offend guns owners by reporting these incidents...
Well on the one hand, guns are the leading cause of death for kids in the US. On the other hand, not a single kid has ever died from THC poisoning.
So they’re probably about the same according to the average right winger.
That's only a current trend and still very close to motor vehicle deaths which is usually and historically the leading killer of US adolescents. I'm sure covid played its roll in that trend flipping for a bit.
Agreed, and we have taken so many extreme measures to protect our kids from car deaths, it only makes sense to greatly crack down on gun laws.
I really like your way of thinking about this. We have brought child car deaths way down with strict laws around car use, licensing, and policing; we know how well this works. If we apply these same common sense laws to guns, we could probably lower gun deaths for kids way down.
You know there isn’t a single other western country that has gun deaths in their top 5 for kids right? It’s a fucking disgrace.
Well like I said.. I think because of covid the number may have dropped because of people not traveling as much in recent times. I don't think a change in laws, or vehicle safety is a cause for the sudden decrease. Nor do I think the recent up tick in gun related deaths is really telling us much either.. if anything we would need to look at the greater societal trends that may be driving for the recent spike in them.
While it sucks cause all deaths are a tragedy you can't compare the US to many other nations on these grounds because you are comparing two diffrent cultures and can't just blame the presence of firearms. For instance Japan has no guns and way higher amounts of suicides per capita than the US.. which here a major driving factor in gun related deaths is suicide. Or a lot of other nations have universal healthcare, and we dont.. people have a greater access to mental health services where we don't. Sure you can make comparisons, but I don't believe it's a fair way to look at it.
I’m not making individual comparisons though. I’m saying if you make a list of the top 20 nations that are “most like the us” in terms of culture, politics, economy etc, NONE of them have this issue.
Yes, it doesn’t make sense to compare apples to oranges. But when ALL of them are different? Come on.
Vehicle deaths are down because people are traveling less, like you said. Gun deaths are up because people got meaner during Covid: we have tons of data to show how much domestic violence went up. Additionally, we have a lot of Americans in desperate financial straits right now. We know that poverty is a leading force in driving crime, so that sadly also makes sense.
I'm gonna venture to say gun deaths will probably go down the further away from the covid years we get. That shit put a major strain on our population.
>guns are the leading cause of death for kids in the US
Kids, to the age of 19... Why do you think they include "children" to the age of 19 in this? Because for kids under 15 this is not the case at all. Cancer kills 3 times as many.
You caught em! Those little 15 years olds deserve what they get!
And I’d rather have cancer 100% deadlier than guns for my toddlers thx. I can see why they might get unlucky and get cancer, but I don’t see why any fuckhat needs to be shooting a gun anywhere near them.
This kid died of THC toxicity https://www.newsweek.com/are-thc-gummies-toxic-kids-mother-charged-after-child-dies-1754301?amp=1
Mother charged as she should have been. Same as parents who’s kids access any dangerous substance or object.
Newsweek? Lololol. And even in this shitrag they aren’t sure the actual cause of death. The mom withheld care and the kid didn’t receive proper medical treatment for days. AND the kid had heart issues.
So, congrats on finding literally 1 kid in a rag paper that maybe died from cannabis. That really proves they are as dangerous as the leading cause of death, guns.
Parental neglect was the issue I was highlighting. Doesn’t matter what the substance or object (scary boom sticks!)
Go back to smelling your own farts, brave warrior ❄️
Bye Felicia.
We litrally have gun storage laws in CT around minors sooooooo... maybe we should have similar laws for drugs?
Alcohol especially. Alcohol kills close to 150,000 Americans a year. With all the new candy flavors of alcohol that are aimed at kids, there should be laws requiring alcohol to be locked in a secure container if children are in the home.
But nobody wants to admit just how dangerous and deadly alcohol is, and will continue to ignore the epidemic of alcoholism and drunk driving.
First let me answer like many gun owners "BUT THAT WILL INFRINGE ON THE RIGHTS OF RESPONSIBLE EDIBLE OWNERS.
Second-I think that is a great idea. Let me know what you worked up and I'd be happy to join you in getting it passed.
Well I'm a gun owner..
Don't be that person and assume how we think. Honestly the answer with me is more nuanced than that. It is indeed an infringement, no where in the 2A says, hey you have the right to bear arms, and defend yourself, as long as you have a safe to store your shit. Like wise it puts another unnecessary financial burden on people to practice an unalienable right, which will only disenfranchise and lead to more legal problems for folks on the lower end of the social economic spectrum, who let's face it are the folks who probably would need a gun more than anyone else in society.
THAT SAID.. while I wish we could leave this in the hands of the individual, and say you have been trusted with not only the ability to own arms but to maintain and secure them. Not everyone is rational, or safe and responsibe.. so in this case a storage law makes some sense. I really wish the state/government would incentives gun owners to purchase safes, or other means to secure thier weapons, like a tax break program, or some type of grant program for their purchase.
For the second part they could just do what they do for guns, you have people 18 years or younger in your household then you need to lock up your shit. If you don't, and little Jonny gets into them, and blasts off into the cosmos on an adventure to the ER, then you will be charged with improper storage of a controlled substance. Easy peasy.
Guess what I'm a gun owner too!
True, but someone has to get the ball rolling, let me know when you do.
I mean, I vote for folks that I assume know what the fuck they are doing, and they almost always don't have my best interests in mind when it comes to my 2A rights. As well I have several safes for ally stuff cause its the responsible thing to do.. I do this without having kids in my home.
So you don't plan on getting the ball rolling, how very disappointing and surprising. Think about the children.
So voting for folks and taking personal responsibility for one's self is doing nothing?
In this discussion, yes.
How so..? I don't have kids of my own, or plan to have any. As well for the most part I don't really care about others folks kids, cause that's thier problem and responsibility. Sure, I get upset if a kid gets hurt, or in this case gets high as fuck off something they shouldn't, because I'm not a fucking monster.. however end of the day, not really my problem... until someone makes it mine.
If you don't care, why did you suggest the law. Remember it was you who suggested it, I'm just trying to encourage you to make it a reality. Don't make comments you don't stand behind.
Did you not ask me to make a suggestion?
>Let me know what you worked up and I'd be happy to join you in getting it passed.
That was after you suggested the law in the first place.
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"We litrally have gun storage laws in CT around minors sooooooo... maybe we should have similar laws for drugs?"
Poisoning is such a loaded term.. to OD on THC you would have to smoke or eat an edible like the size of a bus. If anything I would say it's more annoying cause idiots either take way more than they are ready for, and panic, causing them to think they are ODing and they call EMS, when they should just go sleep it the fuck off.. or like in this case when someones little dummy finds their edibles and mistakes them for treats. None of this should be a problem if people used their brains before punching thier tickets to Mars.
You lost the war on drugs boomer. Be gone with you.
THC is not poison.
Theres a hell of a lot of other child poisonings every day from vitamins to essential oils, this one makes the news because its THC.
Ask them how many had any lasting effects or died.. you might then want to ask about alcohol related OD and pediatric ingestion… something tells me you might not be in favor of banning alcohol… and if you were it would only absolve you from being a hypocrite not a moron.
duncanandlily t1_j1520rs wrote
"THC laced" as if there was fent or some shit. The kids found edibles and ate edibles thinking they were candy. Keep your edibles away from your kids. This wasn't an evil plot lmao