mrjharder11 t1_j9uy8m0 wrote on February 24, 2023 at 7:12 PM

Reply to comment by silasmoeckel in Taxing rounds to punish gun owners by Laurajw12

30% increases in cost. $30 per 1000 rounds.

Is it that much more per shooter? I mean, I'm not wild about it but takes me a while to squeeze off 1000 rounds. If its its going to education about firearm safety then isn't it a good application of tax dollars? I think there's a lot of data that shows that spending on prevention pays back a lot in outcomes. Like the Head Start program for preschool - every dollar spent pays off like 9 or 10 bucks down the road in dollars saved. It literally keeps teens and adults out of the welfare and criminal justice system. I'm for the same approach if that's the intent here for preventing gun deaths.

silasmoeckel t1_j9vgpw2 wrote on February 24, 2023 at 9:11 PM

> 7c a round is allready crazy for a 22LR.

Were talking about a program thats already teaching firearms safety to more kids in the US that any other program by far. Ammo is the biggest cost to run the program. So yea a 30-50% increase in real costs is huge.

jredline7 t1_j9wjnuq wrote on February 25, 2023 at 1:48 AM

The tax dollars would be used for public firearm safety training which should allow us to drop the need for pistol permits.

I still believe taxation is theft but I applaud the good intentions

TreeEleben t1_j9wm3xb wrote on February 25, 2023 at 2:07 AM

Permits will never go away. They're used to deter gun ownership. Currently, the 2nd amendment only applies to those who hold a valid license, the state won't give up that power over the citizens.

mrjharder11 t1_j9yaet5 wrote on February 25, 2023 at 1:22 PM

Are drivers licenses made to deter car ownership? Is the bar exam meant to deter people from becoming lawyers? You want hacks cutting your hair and applying pesticides to your residence? You do realize there are people who try to do these things without training or a license that wind up literally ruining lives, right?

I agree, they put up a barrier to access but isn't that the point? So some yahoo doesn't become the next deadly yahoo?

Still curious why the 2nd Amendment is so sacred while we allow power to assail the 1st, 4th and 5th until we have zero freedom and security.

mrjharder11 t1_j9y9pmk wrote on February 25, 2023 at 1:15 PM

I forgot what I was replying to lol. Ok then make your own ammo. Problem solved.

GlamorousBunchberry t1_j9v8hyt wrote on February 24, 2023 at 8:19 PM

It's true enough that you're already blowing so much money on ammo that the folks who are still willing to do it at all won't be deterred too much by the tax.