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EarthExile t1_j8ojkm3 wrote

Reply to comment by WellSeasonedUsername in Sandy Hook Survivor Survives Second Mass Shooting by midmodmad

200 shootings? Cops alone kill a thousand or so people a year in America, that number is ridiculously low

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WellSeasonedUsername t1_j8oye4r wrote

So you want cops to be the only ones with guns when they confiscate guns from civilians? Sorry just trying to understand your logic..

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EarthExile t1_j8oyp6s wrote

I don't think most cops should carry guns either. Plenty of civilized countries manage that way. Just imagine a world where cops aren't prepared to instantly kill people because they don't have to assume everyone's armed to instantly kill them first.

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WellSeasonedUsername t1_j8ozgb4 wrote

You’re describing a utopia. Those don’t exist. Gangs will still have their guns, so will cops. So again I’ll ask, what is your logic? Disarming law abiding citizens won’t solve the police killing civilians issue OR the gang violence issue. If other countries have “solved” this issue, why do they still have murders ? Rapes? Crime ?

Edit more importantly how are YOU going to disarm cops?

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EarthExile t1_j8ozu2j wrote

It does not take utopian ideals to attempt to solve problems. Just the will to try.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country

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WellSeasonedUsername t1_j8ozy6p wrote

Ok but you still haven’t answered how YOU are going to disarm civilians ? Are you going to personally disarm the police once civilians are disarmed?

Gun ownership is banned in Brazil and Venezuela. How are their gun crimes so high? Could it be gangs and cartels?

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EarthExile t1_j8pb5xo wrote

You hone in on one of the few countries with significant gun violence like ours, as if the existence of other violent countries proves America can't achieve something. To do this, you look past most of a planet where the problem is much less severe. Did you realize you were doing that?

Do you think there are not gangs and cartels and lunatics in these places?

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WellSeasonedUsername t1_j8pd6qf wrote

So when are you disarming the cops?

You know the Nazis took all the guns away right? Right..??

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EarthExile t1_j8ptj1x wrote

No they didn't. The Wiemar Republic had stricter gun control laws. When the Nazis took over, they loosened the regulations for Party members. They only disarmed the specific groups they hated.

It helps to be familiar with history before you get all shitty and sarcastic about it. A cursory search reveals that you're talking out your ass, which means you put even less effort than that cursory search into justifying your belief. Or you looked up Nazi gun control, saw that what you believe isn't true, and just lied to me, hoping I wouldn't know or check.

Does it matter what's true? When I show you a map that shows a hundred countries without our gun violence problem, does it really make sense to keep acting like solutions are impossible?

Do you feel you're being honest?

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WellSeasonedUsername t1_j8q1y6s wrote

Who does the police hate? You said police are racist and willing to kill anyone without reason. Yet you support police being the only ones with the guns.

Even Marxists believe in the human right of self defense. What are you?

When are you gonna come take my guns?

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EarthExile t1_j8qszss wrote

You're now telling me I said things I haven't said. This is all in writing. It's all still there. You can't just lie about absolutely everything, people are going to notice.

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WellSeasonedUsername t1_j8r9nfs wrote

When are you coming for my guns?

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EarthExile t1_j8raiz8 wrote

Right, so we've established that your arguments are worthless, you lie constantly, and you won't engage when called on those things. What you're left with is an implicit threat of violence. Cool. And people wonder why so many Americans shoot people.

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WellSeasonedUsername t1_j8rpp30 wrote

When are you coming for my guns? You want citizens disarmed, you should be the one to disarm them.

Instead you’ll just hide behind the police lol

You can’t bitch and whine about police violence and then say they should be the only ones with guns.

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