Submitted by TierPodzia t3_11zlhq1 in DIY
I wanted to lighten up my living room by painting over the wood paneling (from the 70s) I used Kilz multipurpose 2 primer so far and it seems that the wood paneling is bleeding through, I thought this primer would block that from happening. I did a test area that is Kilz primer and the intended paint color to see if it would stop bleeding at the Kilz layer, but it bled through the Kilz and the paint. Please help so my fiancé doesn’t go crazy! Lol
Okay I’ll try that! I see this one I’m using is water based, the one you recommend is oil/shellac based. Thank you!
There should not be an oil base on the wood paneling. If there is, the kilz wouldn't have stuck to it bc latex and oil don't play well since latex is water based. Can you peel the kilz off? If so. Then you'll have a problem. If that's the case, you'll need to get a hybrid primer that plays with both, after you strip your kilz off.
If it doesn't. You're in luck! Get a primer ment to block the bleed through like the person prior recommended and paint away. I'd recommend a gray primer if going dark on your latex color.
With this in mind, I’ll do a small patch with oil based primer and my intended (white-ish) paint color! Thank you for this info, I’ll see how it goes, hopefully it just sticks. This project is a temporary solution until we rip it out and put drywall up, funny how complicated it has turned out lol. I’m learning so much though! Thanks again.
Well, water-based latex will not stick to oil based anything. It will go up and look like it's working. But it won't attached to it. Sherwin Williams has a primer called quick dry that is also stain blocking or even their extreme blocking primer. They're pricier if you're not a contractor. Know one? Ask them if you can use their account.
Yes you need 'Restoration'. I had the same problem with bleed through and switching the primer did the trick.
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This is very helpful, the one I currently have is water based. This siding definitely has water damage and I think they must have smoked a lot inside. Would you recommend sanding down/removing most of the primer I have on right now? Or can I just go over it?
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Okay I’ll give it a go! Thanks so much.
Consider getting a vapor filter face mask, they work very well. If you're rolling on oil base or shellac, it will get bad fast.
Okay! I appreciate this comment because I was wondering if i could use the paint with my baby in the home. Off to Grammies she goes.
Definitely off to Grammie.
I did something similar recently on similar vintage paneling. I used a primer specifically rated for wood application.
To seal the deal, so to speak, for the top coat I used a high-cover Valspar 4000 and it worked great.
Do you know specifically what primer you used?
I was afraid you'd ask that. ;-)
There's a bunch spilled down the label and I can barely read it. *scrape, scrape* Valspar Stainblocking Bonding Primer | Sealer -- Extreme Adhesion. Lowes product #46620. I used a light coat, covering all surfaces (including the annoying grooves in the paneling - a roller with a higher nap helps here) but definitely not producing a uniform white after primer alone. Instructions say not to dilute, but I did a tiny bit--this made the paint roller very drippy... but the final result looks great.
You are great! Thank you so much.
Zinsser BIN
I don’t know how to add a picture to this post. But I posted one on my page if that helps!
I never can figure out why people don't just take old paneling down and sell it. And then paint the drywall under it.
I don’t think we are talking about the same paneling lol most of us are talking about cheap thin (fake) wood paneling commonly used in manufactured homes. Usually it’s nailed right to the studs so no drywall behind.
mostly there is not drywall underneath.
For me it was just easier. About 6 years ago I covered the gaps in some paneling with drywall mud to smooth it out then just painted over the whole thing. Has held up and looked fine since.
Wood paneling has an oil based finish
Must use either oil based primer OR a bonding primer. Bonding primer designed specifically for such an application.
Must also clean the paneling well before hand
You might want to try using a shellac-based primer like Zinsser Bullseye 1-2-3. It's one of the few primers that can actually block out stubborn stains like tannins in wood, and it's much more effective than latex primers like Kilz. Good luck!
I made myself stupid stoned painting oil based Kilz in a closed house in February. I didn't notice how bad it was until my husband came over. Essentially, oil based paint is not very different from sniffing glue. Use good ventilation.
I appreciate you sharing your experience! I will keep it as ventilated as possible and try wearing a respirator most of the time. Hopefully I don’t end up woozy over here!
Don't drive right after.
Two more layers of primer!
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Otex primer works great, recommended by professional painters.
Guygan t1_jdcuako wrote
Use Kilz “Restoration” primer instead. It’s designed to block bleed through.