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Cruser60 t1_it9ndb6 wrote

Eliminate the cause of the back pressure. Until you do this, even if you get the pilot, and burner lit, you can cause a build up of Carbon Monoxide, and put yourself and others in danger.

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dingustotalicus OP t1_it9orbc wrote

Honestly that's my biggest concern. This (new to me) landlord is apparently pretty shady with this kind of stuff.

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RyanFrank t1_it9uj38 wrote

Tell your landlord to fix your shit and if they don't then report their ass

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LawTeaDough t1_itbul8q wrote

Yeah. Having a working heating system is your constitutional right as a tenant. So many people fix up their landlords place for free like a chump.

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Eupion t1_ita4gw2 wrote

You do have a carbon monoxide alarm, right? Since it could be a huge problem, not having an alarm would just make that worse.

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dingustotalicus OP t1_ita8cvk wrote

Good point! There's one in each room. I'll test the batteries to make sure everything's kosher

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slothlovereddit t1_itab5n5 wrote

Smoke detectors or carbon monoxide detectors? Most rooms have smoke detectors but they aren't always CO detector combos. It should say what it is somewhere on the unit

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hicow t1_itayua2 wrote

Shouldn't CO detectors be low on the walls, being CO's heavier than air?

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Silenthitm4n t1_itb6zu4 wrote

No. It’s slightly lighter than air but the difference is so small height makes no difference.

It’s recommended that they are installed at least 6” below ceiling level and above any doors or windows due to air flow.

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HolycommentMattman t1_itbt4sh wrote

Check your exact model. Each one have different specifications. The truth is that CO detection has improved considerably in the last 30 years, and the sensors no longer work by "soaking in" X amount of CO, so many are perfectly fine being installed on the ceilling.

I know I installed brand new detectors, and they detected output of CO by our old furnace. Forced air is pretty turbulent, so it's not like all the CO is just gonna flow consistently to one place. Think of it like having a pitcher of oil and water perfectly separated. Pouring it into a new container will not maintain that perfect separation. Same thing for air, but the effect is even more pronounced.

And CO is lighter than air, so you would expect it to rise eventually anyway.

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JeansAndAPolo t1_itbpvia wrote

I've usually seen them mounted about eye level on the wall. I think the idea is that the density is close enough that elevation isn't necessary. And having them at eye level makes it easier and more likely to regularly change the batteries.

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PlasmaSheep t1_itck7bc wrote

Yeah, I usually just let my smoke alarms beep every 30 seconds for weeks until they die rather than just change the batteries.

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Elk-Tamer t1_itbaoim wrote

If you think about it, and that's a huge simplification, the weight of the elements is like this: C<N<O. Now, our air consists primarily of N2 and O2. CO consists of one of the lighter atoms and one of the heavier atoms. The average weight is around the level of N2, but lighter than O2. Meaning, it's generally lighter that our air, but only to a small extent.

So in general, CO detectors can be near the ceiling, but they don't have to be. Someone once told me to hang them in the height of the average breather in the house. But definitively not near ground level.

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hicow t1_itbgr7r wrote

I think I was thinking of radon

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MooseBoys t1_itc1e0p wrote

Crucially, the difference in density is small enough that diffusion forces dominate at room temperature. The only issue with placement is ensuring the detector is in an area where the air can easily diffuse to. E.g. don’t put it in a closet, behind a dresser, or in a highly concave corner. These positions will eventually detect CO, but due to the room geometry it may take significantly longer which can easily mean the difference between life and death.

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Nordalin t1_itbgt3o wrote

CO2 is heavier than O2, CO is lighter!

Carbon only has 3/4 the weight of oxygen, as it has only 12 protons+neutrons, and oxygen has 16 of them.

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cocacola999 t1_itb6llm wrote

Oh that makes sense and makes me nervous about my combo that is mounted on the ceiling above the stairs

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Silenthitm4n t1_itb708l wrote

No. It’s slightly lighter than air but the difference is so small height makes no difference.

It’s recommended that they are installed at least 6” below ceiling level and above any doors or windows due to air flow.

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pain-butnogain t1_itbaird wrote

i think those low placed alarms are for unburnt gas

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Murky_Macropod t1_itbdef6 wrote

Yeah we have them on sailing yachts for propane leaks — particularly important as they have nowhere to ‘drain’ to on a boat.

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blitz672 t1_itan3py wrote

Make Shure they are more low than high on the wall

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similar_observation t1_itbbcc7 wrote

Get into the habit of checking them twice a year. Since I live in the US, I tend to use common US holidays approximately 6 months apart. Like Easter and Halloween or Memorial Day and Thanksgiving... or Independence Day and Christmas

It's especially smart when checking before a cooking or firework holiday.

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silverbullet52 t1_itbzz6h wrote

Furnace is only used 6 months out of the year. I replace batteries in mine (and check expiry date...) at the same time I turn the furnace back on.

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eljefino t1_itbpoew wrote

They expire ~7 years after purchase. Should have an expiration date on them somewhere.

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LawTeaDough t1_itbv9s8 wrote

I highly doubt there is even one Carbon monoxide detector in your home. I do home and HVAC inspections for a living and 9/10 renters don't have one.

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alheim t1_itbxvba wrote

Those are probably smoke detectors, not carbon monoxide detectors. They aren't the same.

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Llamadramaramamama t1_itc4g28 wrote

If you don’t have one, I’d get a low level CO monitor. The alarms you have may only alert in an emergency situation.

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1HappyIsland t1_itazxsh wrote

CO monitors should be mounted low to the floor also!

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Silenthitm4n t1_itb70n7 wrote

No. It’s slightly lighter than air but the difference is so small height makes no difference.

It’s recommended that they are installed at least 6” below ceiling level and above any doors or windows due to air flow.

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CaskStrengthWhiskey t1_itakjma wrote

A fun fact for you, carbon monoxide poisoning is how your house gets haunted.

https://interstateheatandair.com/carbon-monoxide-real-life-ghost-story/

Caveat this only works if you don't over do the poisoning.

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horridpineapple t1_itaqaus wrote

There's a story somewhere here on reddit that was pretty big. A lady, I believe, thought someone was breaking into her house and leaving notes or something all around. Come to find out it was carbon monoxide poisoning. Sleuthed out by the brilliant minds of reddit.

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Hidesuru t1_itax1q4 wrote

Could have sworn it was a dude. They were convinced their landlord was spying on them I think, but one Redditor convinced them to check co levels and they were dangerously high for some reason I can't recall.

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horridpineapple t1_itc4l82 wrote

I think I've got a couple posts mixed around then. I swear I've read one about a woman and I've read the stick note one.

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Hidesuru t1_itd9nmd wrote

Could be yeah I'm sure it hasn't happened just once sadly.

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MmmPeopleBacon t1_itbztqq wrote

Get a carbon monoxide detector. If the levels are high the local Fire Department will come check your carbon monoxide levels and if they are unsafe will issue and order to the landlord that the property is uninhabitable until corrected. Fire Departments don't fuck around with that shit

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NETSPLlT t1_itdmvgj wrote

Fire department inspection in many jurisdictions is the quickest 'heaviest' way to get action from the landlord.

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LawTeaDough t1_itbufze wrote

Don't touch his equipment. If you touch it, you own it. Call a service person and give the bill to the landlord. It blew out because the flue configuration is bad and is causing back draft which is dangerous to your health. Don't make yourself liable for his shitty equipment. You can have a tech service it and send the bill to the homeowner.

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