MagicSPA t1_j6jyzy2 wrote on January 30, 2023 at 9:34 PM

Reply to comment by Guygan in How do I prevent condensation on the windows from causing water to accumulate on the windowsill? by teddythepooh99

You were doing fine until you said mold isn't going to hurt you.

If you think "toxic mold is nonsense", then check out Stachybotris atra, Stachybotris chartarum, and others:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mold_health_issues

Guygan t1_j6jz2s6 wrote on January 30, 2023 at 9:34 PM

https://www.cdc.gov/mold/faqs.htm

> There are very few reports that toxigenic molds found inside homes can cause unique or rare health conditions such as pulmonary hemorrhage or memory loss. These case reports are rare, and a causal link between the presence of the toxigenic mold and these conditions has not been proven.

MagicSPA t1_j6jzts6 wrote on January 30, 2023 at 9:39 PM

From that exact same page:

>Some people are sensitive to molds. For these people, exposure to molds can lead to symptoms such as stuffy nose, wheezing, and red or itchy eyes, or skin. Some people, such as those with allergies to molds or with asthma, may have more intense reactions. Severe reactions may occur among workers exposed to large amounts of molds in occupational settings, such as farmers working around moldy hay. Severe reactions may include fever and shortness of breath.

>In 2004 the Institute of Medicine (IOM) found there was sufficient evidence to link indoor exposure to mold with upper respiratory tract symptoms, cough, and wheeze in otherwise healthy people; with asthma symptoms in people with asthma; and with hypersensitivity pneumonitis in individuals susceptible to that immune-mediated condition.

>In 2009, the World Health Organization issued additional guidance, the WHO Guidelines for Indoor Air Quality: Dampness and Mould. Other recent studies have suggested a potential link of early mold exposure to development of asthma in some children, particularly among children who may be genetically susceptible to asthma development, and that selected interventions that improve housing conditions can reduce morbidity from asthma and respiratory allergies.

Thanks for proving me right. I appreciate it.

Guygan t1_j6k006v wrote on January 30, 2023 at 9:40 PM

Apparently, you need to learn what "toxic" means.

MagicSPA t1_j6k0uk8 wrote on January 30, 2023 at 9:45 PM

No, I clearly don't, but you need to learn what "toxigenic" means.

Here, let me help you out:

toxigenic: producing a toxin or toxic effect

That PERFECTLY describes the effect of harmful molds. Thanks for your time, you've been a very determined learner.

Guygan t1_j6k1gs6 wrote on January 30, 2023 at 9:49 PM

So is dog dander that gives me asthma "toxic"? How about dust? That gives me nasal symptoms. How about tree pollen that makes me sneeze?

MagicSPA t1_j6k3016 wrote on January 30, 2023 at 9:58 PM

Then your response to dog dander and pollen sound allergenic rather than toxigenic per se.

Exposure to dust can likewise cause blockage, irritation, and problems with abrasion not related to actual toxicity.

Hope this helps you out!

Guygan t1_j6k3cqb wrote on January 30, 2023 at 10:01 PM

Right. And the CDC text you quoted says molds can produce allergic effects. Toxic effects have never been proven.