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lyoshav OP t1_j4m5jew wrote

No air movement, no, but the pipe material itself and the air inside (not moving) must create a thermal bridge with a significantly worse u value than the walls. I'm wondering what one does able this, if anything, if going for the full enerphit treatment...

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redcore4 t1_j4m67p7 wrote

The loss will be fairly negligible compared to the cost of preventing it as plastic pipes don't conduct heat well and neither does still air; but if you want to invest in removing even that tiny little bit you could box in the pipes on the outside with insulated ducting. The expense probably wouldn't be worth it though.

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MidnightAdventurer t1_j4n0h9d wrote

The pipe material is usually PVC? PVC doesn't exactly transmit heat very well, in fact, it's one of the materials used to improve the thermal properties of window joinery. Neither does terracotta if you've got pipes that old but they're not usually used above ground.

The only pipe materials you're going to have a problem with creating thermal bridges are metal and for a waste pipe, that probably means cast iron. If your house has cast iron waste pipes then there may be some thermal efficiency benefit to replacing them with PVC, otherwise the pipe material is basically an insulator.

The air in the pipe will generally match with the outside air whatever you do because pipes are vented (don't block the vents...) but air isn't much of a conductor of heat either - the biggest problem with air when insulating is letting the inside air escape and be replaced by outside air. This is easily managed by sealing around the pipe where it goes through the wall.

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lyoshav OP t1_j4n3kdn wrote

Thanks, interesting and helpful.

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