slyder777 t1_jawexzm wrote
PALM OIL - Every year it is estimated that between 1,000 to 5,000 orangutans are killed in palm oil concessions.
WookieWeed t1_jawjloa wrote
It took a lot of digging on this website to find exactly how the palm oil industry is harming orangutans.
"After palm oil plantations are established, displaced starving orangutans are frequently killed in the most brutal ways as agricultural pests when they try to obtain food in the plantation areas."
It would do a great service to their cause to come out and say this on the front page then wondering how the these orangutans are dying. It got confusing with all the logging talk and while all is bad exactly how they're being harmed is of the most concern.
KingJoffer t1_jawlq9q wrote
They also lose habitat from deforestation as palm tree farms are not suitable for swinging (their main method of mobility). They are forced to walk on their legs which is harmful long term, they cannot effectively find mates in forests fragmented by farmland, and they cannot get sufficient nutrients from the palm trees to survive.
I know you were just making a point about the site, just thought we should list more of the reasons.
WookieWeed t1_jawmgut wrote
Thank you for the information about the deforestation, its powerful to know exactly how they're being harmed. I was becoming frustrated wanting to learn more about orangutans plight.
Dessert-fathers t1_jaxhccp wrote
>It would do a great service to their cause to come out and say this on the front page
That would be seen as racist, which is why it's buried. People are not supposed to be asking these types of questions; just open your hearts and wallets and give generously.
Stanazolmao t1_jazxezw wrote
What?
Dessert-fathers t1_jb0cf3f wrote
> orangutans are frequently killed in the most brutal ways as agricultural pests
The local population of people are brutally killing orangutans, but pointing that out is politically incorrect. Which is why this fact is buried on that website and why my post is being downvoted.
Stanazolmao t1_jb2v7w8 wrote
I mean, unless you somehow imply the local population is killing the orangutans because of their race, how would anyone even accuse you of racism? Everyone knows that people who live in an area are the local population
Dessert-fathers t1_jb3lgkx wrote
>Everyone knows that people who live in an area are the local population
Apparently not, that's what sparked this whole side-thread; someone asked "how they were dying" and couldn't find it readily until they dug and found that quote.
Stanazolmao t1_jb3tjzt wrote
I think the question was more, are they intentionally being killed or are they dying as a result of habitat destruction
Dessert-fathers t1_jb4sezu wrote
Right, he wanted to know how they were dying since the palm trees themselves weren't killing them. Turns out it's a combo of habitat loss and being killed hacked apart with machetes by the Indigenous population. And now we know the rest of the story.
Dessert-fathers t1_jb5l69v wrote
"It's common practice to burn the land before developing a palm oil plantation"
"Many of those that escaped the fires ended up on plantations and in villages-- desperatelylooking for food and protection from the fires. Starving, tired, wounded or sick, many became easy prey for poachers who saw an opportunity to make easy money selling the meatfrom the adults and putting the babies up for sale on the black market. Mothers were butchered and their babies were plucked off their dead and dying bodies in order to be sold into the illegal pet trade."
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