Submitted by s_y_s_t_e_m_i_c_ t3_xtma54 in Documentaries
Reply to comment by PoorPDOP86 in The U.S. & the Holocaust, Episode 1: “The Golden Door” (2022) A xenophobic backlash prompts Congress to restrict immigration. Hitler and the Nazis persecute German Jews, forcing many to seek refuge. FDR is concerned by the growing crisis but is unable to coordinate a response. [02:08:43] by s_y_s_t_e_m_i_c_
I linked a historical scholar who goes piece by piece through the creation of the Nazi laws. They openly discussed US race law in the policy discussions. This isn't speculation, we have the documents. Mere doctrinal dismissals have no bearing when the historical record is clear.
It wouldn't make sense if the Nazis didn't study its machinations. They also learned about modern propaganda through studying American and British techniques. None of this should be controversial but all countries without exception don't contain anything that could be called 'history' its mythology and symbol management. It's rather easy to see this when we look at other countries but near impossible to notice operating in daily life precisely because its so familiar.
There's certainly more detailed analysis of the subject that exist than the following but it remains rather insightful.
“The US is the most deeply racist society in world history.” There’s no good reason to interject your biased conjecture in the middle of your historical analysis. I was onboard until you decided to write that; it shows a serious lack of knowledge regarding other nations history while simultaneously making you appear entirely amerocentric.
Also, the swift backlash against expressing such ideas and the emotional reactions they elicit is at least antidotal evidence in itself. Genuine errors and completely incorrect ideas rarely have the power to even elicit words of correction. If I held a parade proclaiming 2+2=3 it would get no serious consideration, nor deserve none.
>antidotal
Think you mean 'anecdotal'
That's fair, I removed it. I would maintain that's its accurate nonetheless. If I had taken more time, I'd probably have reworded it as 'the most powerful, systematic, and enduring racist society in world history.' Sentiments don't easily translate into quantifiable research variables and it was sloppy to include them.
I have in mind overt public displays of horror inflicted on individuals in countries outside the US; these are often implicitly regarded as evidence of their power but the opposite is the case. Similar to public execution and torture in European feudalism was always a sign of a weak state. My impression is that you might already be familiar with this line of reasoning but for those who have not, such claims will appear to take off from the planet.
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> I linked a historical scholar who goes piece by piece through the creation of the Nazi laws. They openly discussed US race law in the policy discussions.
OK, and does that meant the US laws were the basis of all of their policies? Answer: it doesn't, may have offered some info.
There's enough blame to go around.
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