freedomfightre t1_is8w465 wrote on October 14, 2022 at 3:41 AM

Reply to comment by Eyiolf_the_Foul in Accepted (2021) - A school in Louisiana is celebrated for putting traditionally underserved students into Ivy League colleges, but an investigation uncovers its charismatic founder's controversial methods (CC) [01:22:56] by thesecondfire

And yet the Ivy's fell for it all the same...

kedlubnaaa t1_is9tj80 wrote on October 14, 2022 at 10:42 AM

Yes. I feel bad for the students, but now I want to know about those schools vetting processes. How much did they over look or not bother verifying for the sake of diversity.

Junooooo t1_isa85kp wrote on October 14, 2022 at 1:03 PM

I don’t think any schools run background checks on their applicants. You’re absolutely able to lie on your application to get in, just don’t be surprised when you’re packing your bags 6 weeks in because you don’t know how to learn. Which is what we saw happen here. From a school’s perspective, they get there tuition and diversity quotas so why would they care?

PartyPorpoise t1_isaoovt wrote on October 14, 2022 at 3:00 PM

Plus every high school has different academic standards. How are you going to know that an A from this one school means nothing? Some schools have a reputation but not all are well-known.

Marchesa-LuisaCasati t1_isnvcyo wrote on October 17, 2022 at 11:43 AM

I assure you tuition at elite schools is paid in the form of grants and scholarships by the university. Low and middle income students aren't taking out loans to pay tuition.

Junooooo t1_isp1bl0 wrote on October 17, 2022 at 5:11 PM

Ok? Pretty sure these families probably took loans to go to these fake private high schools so what’s the difference? Also, tuition isn’t even close to being the only cost associated with going to university so I’m not sure what your point is.

Marchesa-LuisaCasati t1_isp6f11 wrote on October 17, 2022 at 5:46 PM

I only learned about the student loans for private high schools a few years ago. I think the doc said tuition was around $600/mo which would be "cheap" for private school where i live and, probably, a stretch for many of these families. The "difference" would be the debt would be the parents and not taken on by under-age kids.

Have you visited any of the the elite schools? Toured Stanford with my kid. They'll provide up $50K start-up money to students with a developed business plan. They also allocate $5K/yr travel and living expenses for accepted middle & lower income students. Regrettably, my kid didn't get in. We're middle class and it is absolutely a golden ticket.

The "point" is that there are about 70 universities in the US which guarantee to meet 100% of financial need without loans. "Need" includes tuition, books, housing, food, and some living expenses (travel, clothes, etc). You asserted the universities took their tuition and it didn't matter to them if the students were successful or not; that's not how elite universities work if you're middle or lower income. Source: my kid attended & graduated from an elite university and we paid $zero.