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kerbaal t1_j4k8vj7 wrote

Reply to comment by Fatal_Taco in Zero Days (2016) - Stuxnet, a piece of self-replicating computer malware that the U.S. and Israel unleashed to destroy a key part of an Iranian nuclear facility, and which ultimately spread beyond its intended target. [01:53:51] by Missing_Trillions

I don't expect it to happen; concepts of justice like that everyone is equal under the law and that the law exists to restrict the government as much as it does us are not popular with people who only want us to be a country of laws when its convenient for them.

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CupResponsible797 t1_j4lad9r wrote

> concepts of [...] and that the law exists to restrict the government as much as it does us

Such concept has literally never existed. Sovereign immunity on the other hand is an ages-old legal concept.

You're veering deep into sovereign citizen loony territory by even suggesting this.

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kerbaal t1_j4mgctx wrote

> Such concept has literally never existed

Sure if you ignore the concept of rule of law or the very common phrase "nation of laws, not a nation of men".

> Sovereign immunity on the other hand is an ages-old legal concept.

And one that deserves to be nothing more than a footnote in the history of bad ideas that only ever served the people in power to the detriment of the people that they were supposed to be serving.

> You're veering deep into sovereign citizen loony territory by even suggesting this.

Not even close; I am veering into the concept of government as a public service, for the people and by the people. The whole point of a constitution is that government authority shouldn't be absolute ever again.

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CupResponsible797 t1_j4mizvh wrote

>Sure if you ignore the concept of rule of law or the very common phrase "nation of laws, not a nation of men".

Those do not mean what you think they mean.

These concepts are generally understood to mean that all members of society are considered equally subject to legal codes and processes, but the state is explicitly not a member of society.

>And one that deserves to be nothing more than a footnote in the history of bad ideas that only ever served the people in power to the detriment of the people that they were supposed to be serving.

There's a reason it has survived everywhere in the world for thousands of years, sovereign immunity is simply necessary for states to conduct their duties.

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