ghostmrchicken OP t1_j5q51pk wrote
Reply to comment by raymondcy in Senna (2010) - Follows Ayrton Senna's career, one of the greatest Formula 1 drivers in history (CC)[00:52:55] by ghostmrchicken
I noticed this as well. There’s definitely two versions. I first saw the longer one on Netflix years ago. I re-watched this version before posting.
Parts I remember being edited out:
- Details about Senna’s childhood, his start in go-kart racing, how his career eventually progressed to F1 and his father’s financial support early on
- His marriage and divorce
- Perhaps most important - a rather long scene where the drivers object to racing in the rain due to the increased risk of an accident. I forget which event this was at. The drivers request a meeting with the organizers to discuss the issue. I think there are parts of Senna talking to the other drivers and I’m pretty sure Senna walks out of the meeting at one point.
raymondcy t1_j5q7drk wrote
The longer one has an extended version of Prost's interview in the middle somewhere which provides a lot of context to the film that otherwise wasn't there. That is perhaps it's most glaring omission.
For the third point, you might be confusing that with the incident Niki Lauda had where he walks out based on exactly what you said, rain conditions. (edit: this is covered in the movie "RUSH" by Ron Howard - which possibly might be the greatest racing movie of all time).
In the Senna film (not sure which version) Senna walks out of the drivers meeting after a heated discussion about going out on the shoulder of the track by accident (there was a run off area in the chicane so if you missed the turn you didn't go into a wall). Senna was penalized for that and I think ultimately lost the championship because of that penalty. While other drivers freely got away with the whole thing as the F1 President wasn't a very big Senna supporter and personal friends with Prost. Senna walked out of that meeting - while his fellow drivers were in agreement with him.
Unbelievably, the fucking F1 actually wanted Senna to TURN AROUND and GO AGAINST TRAFFIC just to get back on the chicane.
Edit: One other fun fact, Senna excelled at racing in the rain. Him and Schumacher would run laps around the entire field when it rained. You can argue about what percentage the car wins races over a driver but when it rained those two drivers clearly proved they were exceptional drivers regardless of the cars performance.
ghostmrchicken OP t1_j5q94lz wrote
> For the third point, you might be confusing that with the incident Niki Lauda had where he walks out based on exactly what you said, rain conditions. (edit: this is covered in the movie “RUSH” by Ron Howard - which possibly might be the greatest racing movie of all time).
Given that Senna and Rush are the only two F1 films I’ve seen I stand corrected. Funny as I was typing it out I was thinking to myself didn’t Senna like racing in the rain but I couldn’t recall the conflict so I went with what I thought it was.
B33Man88 t1_j5qqpbs wrote
Have you seen Gran Prix? Rush is the Striptease to Gran Prix’s Showgirls
raymondcy t1_j5qrnl6 wrote
I have not, but I see it's not only well regarded but also directed by John Frankenheimer.
I have put that on my list, thanks for the recommendation.
Edit: Turns out that movie is in HD on youtube here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5U98QpKRSI
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