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PDeXplore OP t1_istyyrf wrote
Just mind blowing the impact that this eruption had, some 30+ years later. Seeing pictures of how this used to be a fairly lush forest, but as it sits today most of the St Helens area is basically a desert. There are quite a few spots that still have a graveyard of dead trees remaining from the original forest, and surprisingly basically none have grown back.
Would be interesting if anyone here was alive to visit the area before the eruptions in the 80s that can comment further.
Fyi shot on Sony A7C, Tamron 17-28mm, f/9. Instagram for more PNW landscape stuff
Acceptable-Royal-257 t1_isu0sg3 wrote
Was alive? Don’t be insulting- I’m not that old. My family and I used to camp up there. It was beautiful with the trees, lakes and the (then) perfectly domed mountain top.
sweetplantveal t1_isu58aw wrote
PDeXplore OP t1_isu60nn wrote
Haha, sorry about that! Certainly a lot of users here were not alive 40 years ago, let alone old enough to remember spending time in the area before it changed.
Have you visited the area enough in the years since to see any kind of change over the past few decades?
HighOnGoofballs t1_isu7vu0 wrote
If you use google earth you can see the tens of thousands of trees still floating today in the nearby lakes
PDeXplore OP t1_isuanu9 wrote
Wow! I do see that in Spirit Lake. In fact, I remember hiking towards Spirit, from far away it kind of looked like an abandoned city with all the "rubble" everywhere. It wasn't until I got much closer that I could make out that it was all just dead trees everywhere.
supermariofunshine t1_isub5c3 wrote
Super amazing location
Acceptable-Royal-257 t1_isuc27i wrote
No, I live elsewhere now
HighOnGoofballs t1_isudfpc wrote
One of the lakes the logjam moves arohbd based on season and wind direction. They’ve created new ecosystems too
FyudoMyo t1_isuknjf wrote
How have they not rotted and completely decomposed in 40 years?
Glum_Can1264 t1_isuqh77 wrote
Did you take this photo? Have you trekked up the mountain it’s self?
FrillySteel t1_isurw0s wrote
And most local scientists will tell you that the area rebounded a great deal faster than they anticipated. They were expecting it to be entirely lifeless for at least several decades, but some floura and fauna returned just a few short years after the eruption.
PDeXplore OP t1_isuv2f1 wrote
Yes it's my photo. I'd love to climb Helens one day but I think I'm not quite in good enough shape at the moment. It's a pretty brutal day hike it seems
darrellbear t1_isuwlld wrote
I was living in the Colorado high country at the time of the eruption. I got up the next morning to drive to work. My windshield was dirty, I turned on the wipers and squirted washer fluid to clean it. I ruined my windshield instantly.
CmdrKhaos t1_isv3kq5 wrote
Tell that to the may flies.
rededelk t1_isv5lo8 wrote
Not sure what you mean but I sat on the edge of Kilauea eating a T-bone and drinking red wine after hiking the caldera, it erupted the next day, can't believe I did that. I fly fish so I know what they are, just don't get your context
islandpancakes t1_isv7xg5 wrote
***Also a 3 month drought
danathecount t1_isvjfna wrote
I’d love to see a graph of replacement windshields sold before and after the eruption.
bryman19 t1_isvl2dy wrote
The mix of ash and windshield washer fluid?
bryman19 t1_isvlqo8 wrote
That's insane
PDeXplore OP t1_isvnfwt wrote
Drought certainly makes it feel more desert like, but that's certainly not the reason all the trees are gone haha. But yeah, even around Mt Hood and the Gorge it starts to feel a bit deserty with how dry it gets.
darrellbear t1_isvo9kc wrote
The ash, the washer fluid wasn't a factor. The ash was actually very gritty, sharp edged particles like sandpaper or worse.
bryman19 t1_isvpa78 wrote
Gotcha. I had never heard of that before
Tamwulf t1_isvpn01 wrote
Believe it or not, that picture is about... I want to say 5 miles from the volcano? St. Helens is also a little over 8,000' high. Hiking/climbing the north face requires a permit, and it is still classified as an "active" volcano. The caldera is still building and occasionally emits steam/ash clouds. It's a fantastic place to visit with gorgeous scenery.
Ocean_Kiwi t1_isvtht5 wrote
St. Helens has a pretty cool gift shop too. I've been wondering if it's still there.
velezaraptor t1_isvucj1 wrote
I was given ash in a jar from this eruption.
I remember it well as we had friends who lived near Seattle, WA.
I remember watching footage of a videographer filming it close to the action. It became darker and darker, harder to breathe. The person died from what I remember, I can’t find the video of it now. I think it was just a small part of a documentary, so it may be difficult to find. It was surreal and emotional to watch someone go from filming to panic for their life, so sad.
porcelainvacation t1_isvvluq wrote
I drove by the dredge piles where they cleared the Cowlitz and Toutle river channels a couple of days ago.
TwoUglyFeet t1_isvw5qe wrote
Whereabouts was this? I climbed Mt Clearwater before and that doesn't look like the direction I take to go over there.
huzernayme t1_isvytlp wrote
That just makes dying from volcanos sound even worse. Before the heat cooks you, you get shredded by sandpaper-razor-ash.
dancingsteveburns t1_isw3jmn wrote
That dome sure looks like it’s gotten a lot bigger
lordandmasterbator t1_isw4mv1 wrote
What trail is this on? This is awesome.
chemicalxv t1_isw8e7v wrote
Trees in general take a very long time to decompose, it's not actually out of the ordinary that they're still there, especially factoring in that they would have been pyrolized by the actual eruption, and I believe the water temperatures generally being cooler also slow down decomposition. For the most part they're all just slowly sinking to the bottom of the lake.
Old Man of the Lake is still floating around Crater Lake and has been there since at least 1896.
FyudoMyo t1_isw98ja wrote
PDeXplore OP t1_iswa0gq wrote
Yes this was from the observatory trailhead, heading east along the main trail towards Spirit Lake (seen on the left... I think)
PDeXplore OP t1_iswa6ux wrote
This is just one of the trails from the observatory, I think it was about 8 miles round trip?
TwoUglyFeet t1_iswaf1p wrote
Was there an antenna there, or some such looking equipment there on a concrete pad?
PDeXplore OP t1_iswaj13 wrote
Yeah it seems strange, but I also watched an episode of This Old House a few weeks ago where they were pulling up centuries old trees from a river in order to make tables. So I guess with the right conditions, things don't decompose much.
When I go back to this spot, I'd love to do a better job of getting a composition with all the dead trees still "standing". It's really fascinating how many are still there, and in good shape other than the top halves were obliterated lol
PDeXplore OP t1_iswapge wrote
Yep, that's the spot!
TwoUglyFeet t1_iswcs67 wrote
Harry's Ridge. The inner dome of the mountain points almost exactly straight in that direction.
slimejumper t1_iswf5jm wrote
what is old man of the lake? a tree?
chemicalxv t1_iswfl8p wrote
Yes it's the remaining stump of an old tree that's been floating vertically in the lake for a very, very long time.
I don't know if there's any real guesses as to how long its been in the water (1896 is just the oldest recorded observation) but I believe the tree has been dated to being like 450ish years old.
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Leroy--Brown t1_iswicik wrote
Its a lot easier to hike with snow, and it doesn't seem that long ago that this used to be covered in snow as late in the summer as September/October.
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ModderOtter t1_iswk4ew wrote
Yes I certainly can do that whilst living in South Africa.
Honestly my guy...
slimejumper t1_iswpgv1 wrote
wow that is very cool.
Glum_Can1264 t1_iswto09 wrote
Yeah looks incredible, I’m sure I recognise the view from photos before it erupted. It’s interesting how you can see lots of ravines where it looks like water has carved out the newer settled earth.
Un-interesting t1_iswye3h wrote
Imagine breathing it in and it’s scraping up all your throat and lungs. Good times.
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JadziaDayne t1_isxsqab wrote
What am I looking at besides the top of the volcano missing?
ardent_wolf t1_isxsxi3 wrote
It’s in salt water so it’s a bit different, but the city of Venice is built upon timber that they sunk into the clay sea bed. Always thought that was pretty cool.
ClearContact t1_isxucmv wrote
Nah I saw Galadriel walk right into an ash cloud and live. Don’t think it’s as bad as you make it sound.
SpiderFarter t1_isxuutd wrote
They still “harvest” old growth trees that have sunk in Lake Superior in the 1800’s. Can’t find this quality anymore
1K_Games t1_isy4nvx wrote
Wait, that was over 40 years ago... I know trees last in water, but that long? How long is it estimated they will remain before decomposing? Looking at pictures it looks like they aren't decomposing at all some how.
AnalysisOfVariance t1_isy7fyd wrote
I hiked mt st Helens just this last weekend!!! Super cool to see it on Reddit now!
OrangeCosmic t1_isye84c wrote
Is this where there used to be a forest?
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ModderOtter t1_it2qjve wrote
How detached from reality are you?
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