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gravy_boot t1_j6vizqg wrote
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> just like fishing
Ah yes, just like fishing, where, traditionally, a network of radio and sonar-enabled motorboats communicate to trap and drive an entire pod of terrified self-aware dolphins everyday dumbass fish into the shallows where they watch for 20 minutes, through a thickening fog of their family’s blood as their kin are slaughtered before finally being dragged ashore to receive their poorly served hacks to the spine.
Just like my grandfather taught me as a lad.
AndreasBerthou t1_j6vkvb7 wrote
They're a herd animal, so it's either kill the pod or none. They're killed pretty much instantly as the people doing it knows what they're doing. I don't see how this is any different than fishing (which you can also paint to be some brutal suffocation of fish due to keeping them above water, but doesn't change the fact that it's a way of gathering food).
So please, without using pathos: Explain to me how this is barbaric and vile, since you're clearly an expert after 10 minutes of Wikipedia browsing and a handful of Sea Shepherd videos.
gravy_boot t1_j6vo23b wrote
> They’re a herd animal, so it’s either kill the pod or none.
People hunted herd animals without slaughtering the herd for thousands of years prior to this. You just might have to actually work at it and respect the animal, rather than lazily taking full advantage of the odds forever in your favor.
> They’re killed pretty much instantly as the people doing it knows what they’re doing.
Sure pal. And they didn’t even see it coming.
> I don’t see how this is any different than fishing (which you can also paint to be some brutal suffocation of fish due to keeping them above water, but doesn’t change the fact that
It’s different because they are self aware and have complex family and social structures. You don’t see the difference because you don’t want to.
> it’s a way of gathering food).
A lazy, cowardly way to gather food in 2023.
> So please, without using pathos: Explain to me how this is barbaric and vile, since you’re clearly an expert after 10 minutes of Wikipedia browsing and a handful of Sea Shepherd videos.
It’s barbaric because it’s done despite full knowledge that it’s cruel and unnecessary. The sooner these people accept reality the sooner they can move past it together.
46_notso_easy t1_j6vtb4x wrote
I’ll add to that: there is literally no context in which killing such intelligent animals — especially ones who are critical to endangered ecosystems or are endangered themselves — is ever really justifiable in 2023. Fuck whale and dolphin hunting in its entirety.
Str0ngTr33 t1_j6x24q3 wrote
This commenter better be 110% vegan. Like , 'doesn't eat honey because beekeeping is slavery' vegan.
46_notso_easy t1_j6x3eca wrote
And why is that? There are many reasons to be against dolphin and whale slaughter, some aligning with veganism and some not.
Trying to indict me by putting my own eating habits on trial is a weak distraction. Any answer I give will result in either ”Of course, a vegan is going to be holier than thou about killing whales!” or ”So you want to protect whales, but I assume you still eat <insert animal>?”
Saying it again slowly for the contrarian chuds: there is nothing defensible about killing such intelligent animals who play such a broad and critical role in a rapidly dying ecosystem.
Str0ngTr33 t1_j7haa05 wrote
But... bees match that description
46_notso_easy t1_j7heh1q wrote
You really didn’t read my comment, did you?
I happen to be a vegan anyway, so it’s not like this is some sort of “gotcha” moment against me.
Cookiemonster6691 t1_j6w1qs2 wrote
They used to herd the pods in wooden paddle boats over 100 years ago trying to go to another part of the world and trying to change their way of life is like someone going to your house and changing the way you live they only do it like once every 5-10 years and none of the food is wasted and is frozen and spread out between all the people on the island. What do you think happens to the food you buy at the grocery store? You think chicken beef pork and all the other fish are read bed time stories then magically end up in small packets of meat? Go check out how slaughter houses work much much worst and inhumane.
gravy_boot t1_j6w2eui wrote
It’s not their way of life, it’s just a leftover utility that used to make sense but doesn’t anymore, and they’re too proud or stubborn to deal with it.
If your entire argument hinges on pointing at other bad things to make yourself look less bad in comparison, you need a new argument.
Cookiemonster6691 t1_j756u3h wrote
So wasting tons of gas for ships to import food and pollute the waters from outside the country just to make a few redditors and crybaby’s happy is the right way? They feed themselves from what’s natural around their islands that includes pod whales and puffins they don’t have to work for money to eat instead they all share the food or hunt for their own there’s no homelessness or people starving to death because of the way they live they are also not over fishing or over hunting any of their resources they are a small island with a small community that all lives off their natural resources. So again they’re supposed to change their way of life and make there country a capitalist country and have to work for money to buy and live a lifestyle like ours? Just because there’s a bunch of crybaby’s in the world who will cry about everything but will do nothing to help them.
Regular-Leave t1_j6w47ji wrote
This is a horrific thing to do and you are a shitty person for defending it
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