Viewing a single comment thread. View all comments

Logical-Coconut7490 t1_j9ztljk wrote

Shall we discuss the Millions of gallons of Water that grapes use in a state in the middle of a multi year drought ?

Or is that Too Real to consider ?

−19

festive_squirrel OP t1_j9zyugv wrote

No, Karen, we shan't. I don't own a vineyard, nor do I speak on behalf of Earth's wine-drinking populace. I'm sorry if agriculture triggers you - please feel free to argue your sanctimonious cause with someone who has an interest in this debate. All I did was post a picture (of unspoiled land, no less).

26

wetforhouseplants t1_ja06pl1 wrote

LMFAO omg I just ugly laughed so freaking hard. I love you. And this photo is gorgeous 😍

9

Logical-Coconut7490 t1_ja03hw8 wrote

Yes, it's a beautiful picture. I used to live there. I watched thousands of acres of that pretty forest destroyed.

Things are screwed when one is called sanctimonious for pointing out a simple truth and fact.

But hey, screw the Earth and all the animals... We've got some Wine to drink... Plenty Profit$ to make.

Oh, and Save the Rainforest... Lol

−13

theHerbivore t1_ja0fjxd wrote

Why the fuck do you capitalize random words? It’s just adds to the insane energy you’re bringing to this photo of un disturbed oak trees lmao

10

the-grand-falloon t1_ja0lhql wrote

Because they're trying to give identity to "Truth" and "Robust Hemp," to give them extra weight.

6

randomcanyon t1_ja0dhmz wrote

There are thousands of acres of new Almond orchards creeping up into the older "cattle" zone of the lower Sierra foothills This is the real problem about water not the Grapes which have much less acres of plantings currently.

5

Logical-Coconut7490 t1_ja0ensf wrote

Yes, almonds really suck the water.

Maybe 1 day Cali will see the benefits of a Robust Hemp industry... Lol

−6

randomcanyon t1_ja0ft6n wrote

The "hemp" industry is all the intoxicating flower and not used for rope. The major players are feeling the pinch because cost of land and cost of production are being hit by low per/oz prices and competition. The Black Market has gone away.

Check out all the "pot farms" in the green triangle of northern California that are for sale.

https://www.cannabispropertiesforsale.com/us/california/humboldt/

1

Logical-Coconut7490 t1_ja0taad wrote

Yes, that's true I said and meant Industrial Hemp. And all it's spin-off industry. Oil, fuel, plastic, cloth, animal feed, a thousand products besides rope. Little water, no pesticides...

0

randomcanyon t1_ja3rqe9 wrote

I get industrial hemp. Have followed its progress for years. But it is more a replacement for other crops in the Mid US like North and South Dakota, and in Canada. California farm land is mostly too valuable to grow "hemp" Much Soybean (in the south) is also used in spin off industries not just for cattle feed or human consumption.

1

Logical-Coconut7490 t1_ja3usoo wrote

Yeah, I remember driving down hwy 99 a few years back and seeing all that "valuable" farm land laying fallow for lack of water. With huge billboards blaming Congress !

Are you telling me it's more profitable to not plant crops (where's the Profit$ in that?), than it is to grow hemp, which uses relatively very little water ?

Are you aware of the. Thousands of products made with hemp ?

With this whole push to get off fossil fuels, Hemp would be the rational #1 choice, since it can do Anything petroleum can do....Better !

Who's the largest Ag landowner in usa ? Pill Gate$... Is that a clue ?

1

randomcanyon t1_ja3wzqx wrote

You are obviously a "Hemp" fan. Like I said I am well aware of hemp. If it was a profitable use of "vacant" farm land then those corp. farms would be growing it.

Ultra rich man buys land as an investment. How is this controversial or even extraordinary? What problem do you have with Bill Gates?

  1. John Malone – 2,200,000 Acres Peter Buck – 1,236,000 Acres. Brad Kelley – 1,139,984 Acres. Singleton Family – 1,110,000 Acres. King Ranch Heirs – 911,215 Acres. Pingree Heirs – 830,000 Acres. Wilks Brothers – 705,475 Acres. Briscoe Family – 640,000 Acres. Largest Private Land Owners: Final Thoughts. More items...β€’Jan 12, 2023

Top 13 Largest Private Land Owners In The US In 2023

1

Logical-Coconut7490 t1_ja3xd9s wrote

So what's with all the headlines in MSM saying Pill GateS is largest Ag landowner in USA ?

1

randomcanyon t1_ja40g06 wrote

Maybe "agricultural land" has a different meaning from "land owner".

On the other hand you seem to have a bugaboo about bill Gates and you are welcome to it. Good day.

1

Logical-Coconut7490 t1_ja3xxl9 wrote

Please explain how Profits were made leaving thousands of acres of prime California crop land Empty ?

1

randomcanyon t1_ja41qaf wrote

Not my land, not my duty to explain the economics of industrial farm land business. I do know something of the poultry industry, but why corps do stuff with their lands and what they grow is not my purview.

0