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clickster t1_jdyo6s9 wrote

To make you own decisions, you need agency. Most people have very limited agency. Most don't get to choose where or how their food is grown, how or where their energy needs are met, many have only limited control over where they live (a function of work / cost), how infrastructure they rely upon is created, how the industries they rely upon are regulated and supplied etc etc... the big moving parts in civilisation are controlled by a handful of entities; not "the people".

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juntareich t1_je0bn92 wrote

One of the major challenges is that people misuse the agency they do have. People value their own wants, comfort and convenience above all. Your statement ignores the fact that everyone could give up beef tomorrow. That no one needs to fly across the world or drive across the country for leisure. People make the choices that benefit them the most, rich and poor, seventh generation be damned.

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