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MuggleWine t1_jdla063 wrote

I can beat ai go programs up to the 2dan level and I'm only 11kyu. I think the ai has a long way to go.. Go has an infinite number of possible moves

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Skreame t1_jdldmxw wrote

AlphaGo will already be a decade old in a couple of years where it originally beat Lee Sedol. AlphaGo Zero smashed it’s predecessor 100 - 0 games. AlphaZero is considered the world’s top player. How does judging AI on simple training modules really give any perspective here?

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Acrolith t1_jdmuwj2 wrote

lol, sounds like the go programs are designed to massage your ego a bit

(Humans have been hopelessly left behind by Go AI for at least 5 years now, not even the top pros have any chance at all against go-playing computers)

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Alpha3031 t1_jdqs8d2 wrote

A program playing at the "2 dan" level is essentially crippled and would have exploitable flaws that are magnified to the point that much weaker players with nothing better to do can find them. This is why advice is pretty much the same as chess, playing engines limited to human level play is essentially useless for improving arfter a point. Basically, the ego massaging is usually entirely unintentional on the engine creator's parts, but limiting an engine to a consistent human difficulty is hard.

The bragging is still dumb though.

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